Major Problems!!!!! With Hh

[mafia29]

Got one of the first HH last year around this time .... drove perfect until August of this year.
Started experiencing lower gas mileage... dropped from about 29.9 to 24.9 now consistently.
ALso experienced lag in acceleration ... before if you punched the gas pedal, you would be pushed back into your seat... now it just speeds up gradually.
I never let the tank go below half... always filling 93 octane.

Also, been experiencing braking problems ... driving in traffic or coming to a complete stop fairly quickly (i.e. Stop sign), the brake engages ... lets go for a second... catches, car stops.
This didn't happen all the time, but it began happening quite frequently ... took it to toyota.
They changed the brake pads and rotors on the front ... since there was a technical bulletin on the newer model, but not mine ... they did it anways. Toyota Regional Tech drove it for a few minutes... didn't experience the problem ... obviously!

Traffic... brakes didn't work... rear-ended police car ... took it back to toyota ... they said it was something with the regenerative breaking ... but it only started happening in August.

They ran scans many times, nothing abnomral showed up, some things were on the high end of the normal range, but wouldn't tell us what exactly. NO print out.

So they took it again, toyota regional tech, drove it for 50 miles ...
"could not duplicate the problem" ... that is what their stand is. If they can not duplicate the problem, it apparently does not exist.

Driving on a service road ... 55-60 mph ... the gf says slow down ... the car starts slowing down by itself ... constantly.. kept speeding up and it kept slowing down, as if brakes were being applied... no brake lights though.

Driving another day ... same speed,... car starts braking by itself... tried engaging cruise control ... figured if it wouldn't engage it would be b/c its braking ... cruise wouldn't engage. In both cases, had to shut off car and wait ..then turned back on... drove fine.

Today i was driving the car ... going down a gradual slope ... on a turn ... braked ... the car sped up .. went from 30 mph to about 35mph, while braking ... car skided off the road, skid light came on, beeping non stop ... hit a pole... shattered my mirror and scratched the side ... car wouldn't stop ... threw it into park and finally skidded to a stop.

I have opened a case with California... still not getting anywhere with it. I figure if i get into one more accident, three times a charm i guess ... they will do something about it.

Incredibly frustrated.....

oh one more thing,... driving one day... NAV screen flashes, insert DVD... and then goes back to normal.

No mods done.

NO IDEA WHAT TO DO....................................................

mafia29, 11/14/2006,9:54:06 PM, wrote:
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>
> Got one of the first HH last year around this time .... drove perfect
> until August of this year.
> Started experiencing lower gas mileage... dropped from about 29.9 to
> 24.9 now consistently.
> ALso experienced lag in acceleration ... before if you punched the gas
> pedal, you would be pushed back into your seat... now it just speeds
> up gradually.
> I never let the tank go below half... always filling 93 octane.
>
> Also, been experiencing braking problems ... driving in traffic or
> coming to a complete stop fairly quickly (i.e. Stop sign), the brake
> engages ... lets go for a second... catches, car stops.
> This didn't happen all the time, but it began happening quite
> frequently ... took it to toyota.
> They changed the brake pads and rotors on the front ... since there
> was a technical bulletin on the newer model, but not mine ... they
> did it anways. Toyota Regional Tech drove it for a few minutes...
> didn't experience the problem ... obviously!
>
> Traffic... brakes didn't work... rear-ended police car ... took it
> back to toyota ... they said it was something with the regenerative
> breaking .. but it only started happening in August.
>
> They ran scans many times, nothing abnomral showed up, some things
> were on the high end of the normal range, but wouldn't tell us what
> exactly. NO print out.
>
> So they took it again, toyota regional tech, drove it for 50 miles ...
> "could not duplicate the problem" ... that is what their stand is. If
> they can not duplicate the problem, it apparently does not exist.
>
> Driving on a service road ... 55-60 mph ... the gf says slow down ...
> the car starts slowing down by itself ... constantly.. kept speeding
> up and it kept slowing down, as if brakes were being applied... no
> brake lights though.
>
> Driving another day ... same speed,... car starts braking by itself...
> tried engaging cruise control ... figured if it wouldn't engage it
> would be b/c its braking ... cruise wouldn't engage. In both cases,
> had to shut off car and wait ..then turned back on... drove fine.
>
> Today i was driving the car ... going down a gradual slope ... on a
> turn ... braked ... the car sped up .. went from 30 mph to about
> 35mph, while braking ... car skided off the road, skid light came on,
> beeping non stop ... hit a pole... shattered my mirror and scratched
> the side .. car wouldn't stop ... threw it into park and finally
> skidded to a stop.
>
> I have opened a case with California... still not getting anywhere
> with it. I figure if i get into one more accident, three times a
> charm i guess ... they will do something about it.
>
> Incredibly frustrated.....
>
> oh one more thing,... driving one day... NAV screen flashes, insert
> DVD... and then goes back to normal.
>
> No mods done.
>
> NO IDEA WHAT TO DO....................................................[/color]

What is an Hh?

Sounds to me like sticking calipers or some sort of electronic braking
system failure. Your electrical problem with the DVD/NAV system is
probably a symptom of computer failure and it is affecting your braking
system too.

"mafia29" <mafia29.2hamhm@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
news:mafia29.2hamhm@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au...[color=blue]
>
> Got one of the first HH last year around this time .... drove perfect
> until August of this year.
> Started experiencing lower gas mileage... dropped from about 29.9 to
> 24.9 now consistently.
> ALso experienced lag in acceleration ... before if you punched the gas
> pedal, you would be pushed back into your seat... now it just speeds up
> gradually.
> I never let the tank go below half... always filling 93 octane.
>
> Also, been experiencing braking problems ... driving in traffic or
> coming to a complete stop fairly quickly (i.e. Stop sign), the brake
> engages ... lets go for a second... catches, car stops.
> This didn't happen all the time, but it began happening quite
> frequently ... took it to toyota.
> They changed the brake pads and rotors on the front ... since there was
> a technical bulletin on the newer model, but not mine ... they did it
> anways. Toyota Regional Tech drove it for a few minutes... didn't
> experience the problem ... obviously!
>
> Traffic... brakes didn't work... rear-ended police car ... took it back
> to toyota ... they said it was something with the regenerative breaking
> .. but it only started happening in August.
>
> They ran scans many times, nothing abnomral showed up, some things were
> on the high end of the normal range, but wouldn't tell us what exactly.
> NO print out.
>
> So they took it again, toyota regional tech, drove it for 50 miles ...
> "could not duplicate the problem" ... that is what their stand is. If
> they can not duplicate the problem, it apparently does not exist.
>
> Driving on a service road ... 55-60 mph ... the gf says slow down ...
> the car starts slowing down by itself ... constantly.. kept speeding up
> and it kept slowing down, as if brakes were being applied... no brake
> lights though.
>
> Driving another day ... same speed,... car starts braking by itself...
> tried engaging cruise control ... figured if it wouldn't engage it
> would be b/c its braking ... cruise wouldn't engage. In both cases, had
> to shut off car and wait ..then turned back on... drove fine.
>
> Today i was driving the car ... going down a gradual slope ... on a
> turn ... braked ... the car sped up .. went from 30 mph to about 35mph,
> while braking ... car skided off the road, skid light came on, beeping
> non stop ... hit a pole... shattered my mirror and scratched the side
> .. car wouldn't stop ... threw it into park and finally skidded to a
> stop.
>
> I have opened a case with California... still not getting anywhere with
> it. I figure if i get into one more accident, three times a charm i
> guess ... they will do something about it.
>
> Incredibly frustrated.....
>
> oh one more thing,... driving one day... NAV screen flashes, insert
> DVD... and then goes back to normal.
>
> No mods done.
>
> NO IDEA WHAT TO DO....................................................
>
>
> --
> mafia29[/color]

Not sure if you are in northern or southern California, send a written
letter by certified mail, return receipt requested to Toyota Motor Sales,
19001 S. Western Ave., Torrance, CA (can't remember the zip code 90501?).
In your letter, include copies of the repair orders that document your
complaint along with copies of any other paperwork related to your
complaint. Keep the orignials!!! In your letter, state clearly what you
believe, i.e., a malfunction in the vehicle caused the accident and that you
would like relief under the California lemon law. Date your letter to start
the clock ticking, you should get a pretty quick response if you are
alleging product liability and/or lemon law.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

If it were me, I would check with my Dealer.


On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:18:19 -0500, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
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>mafia29, 11/14/2006,9:54:06 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Got one of the first HH last year around this time .... drove perfect
>> until August of this year.
>> Started experiencing lower gas mileage... dropped from about 29.9 to
>> 24.9 now consistently.
>> ALso experienced lag in acceleration ... before if you punched the gas
>> pedal, you would be pushed back into your seat... now it just speeds
>> up gradually.
>> I never let the tank go below half... always filling 93 octane.
>>
>> Also, been experiencing braking problems ... driving in traffic or
>> coming to a complete stop fairly quickly (i.e. Stop sign), the brake
>> engages ... lets go for a second... catches, car stops.
>> This didn't happen all the time, but it began happening quite
>> frequently ... took it to toyota.
>> They changed the brake pads and rotors on the front ... since there
>> was a technical bulletin on the newer model, but not mine ... they
>> did it anways. Toyota Regional Tech drove it for a few minutes...
>> didn't experience the problem ... obviously!
>>
>> Traffic... brakes didn't work... rear-ended police car ... took it
>> back to toyota ... they said it was something with the regenerative
>> breaking .. but it only started happening in August.
>>
>> They ran scans many times, nothing abnomral showed up, some things
>> were on the high end of the normal range, but wouldn't tell us what
>> exactly. NO print out.
>>
>> So they took it again, toyota regional tech, drove it for 50 miles ...
>> "could not duplicate the problem" ... that is what their stand is. If
>> they can not duplicate the problem, it apparently does not exist.
>>
>> Driving on a service road ... 55-60 mph ... the gf says slow down ...
>> the car starts slowing down by itself ... constantly.. kept speeding
>> up and it kept slowing down, as if brakes were being applied... no
>> brake lights though.
>>
>> Driving another day ... same speed,... car starts braking by itself...
>> tried engaging cruise control ... figured if it wouldn't engage it
>> would be b/c its braking ... cruise wouldn't engage. In both cases,
>> had to shut off car and wait ..then turned back on... drove fine.
>>
>> Today i was driving the car ... going down a gradual slope ... on a
>> turn ... braked ... the car sped up .. went from 30 mph to about
>> 35mph, while braking ... car skided off the road, skid light came on,
>> beeping non stop ... hit a pole... shattered my mirror and scratched
>> the side .. car wouldn't stop ... threw it into park and finally
>> skidded to a stop.
>>
>> I have opened a case with California... still not getting anywhere
>> with it. I figure if i get into one more accident, three times a
>> charm i guess ... they will do something about it.
>>
>> Incredibly frustrated.....
>>
>> oh one more thing,... driving one day... NAV screen flashes, insert
>> DVD... and then goes back to normal.
>>
>> No mods done.
>>
>> NO IDEA WHAT TO DO....................................................[/color]
>
>What is an Hh?
>
>Sounds to me like sticking calipers or some sort of electronic braking
>system failure. Your electrical problem with the DVD/NAV system is
>probably a symptom of computer failure and it is affecting your braking
>system too.[/color]