OT: Conservatives more generous than Leftiies

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When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have
nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face
of social injustice."





But WE knew this already.
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dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
<repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
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> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
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> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
> have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
> the face of social injustice."[/color]

I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church that
those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to figure
out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got to see the
pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and their political
leanings. Granted this is not a scientific analysis but all in all I
knew where the church's income source was during that time period.

--
"Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
people’s money—only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph Sobran

Liberals are extremely generous - with others' money, especially when
it can buy them votes




dbu' wrote:[color=blue]
> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>
>
>
> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have
> nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face
> of social injustice."
>
>
>
>
>
> But WE knew this already.
> --[/color]

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
> <repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>>
>>
>>
>> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
>> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
>> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
>> have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
>> the face of social injustice."[/color]
>
> I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church that
> those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
> conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to figure
> out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got to see the
> pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and their political
> leanings. Granted this is not a scientific analysis but all in all I
> knew where the church's income source was during that time period.
>
> --
> "Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
> people's money-only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph Sobran[/color]

You don't know what other charities anyone supports. The church gets a
fraction of what I give.



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My wife is a Ph.D. statistician. She will tell you that most studies such
as this are flawed. Especially likely here because instead of being
published where it could be reviewed by peers, he is out to make a buck.
Also he is an economist, not a Ph.D. statistician. His analysis would be
highly suspect. Also, people with large salaries often work for big
corporations where there is tremendous pressure to give large sums yearly
the "United Way" whether you want to or not. That by itself could make his
conclusions in correct as far as why people are giving.



"dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
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> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>
>
>
> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have
> nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face
> of social injustice."
>
>
>
>
>
> But WE knew this already.
> --
>[/color]

DH, 11/17/2006,4:30:20 PM, wrote:
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> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0ettvcc3amq2700a@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
> > dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
> ><repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
> > > liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
> > > American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
> > > have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
> > > the face of social injustice."[/color]
> >
> > I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church
> > that those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
> > conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to
> > figure out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got
> > to see the pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and
> > their political leanings. Granted this is not a scientific
> > analysis but all in all I knew where the church's income source was
> > during that time period.
> >
> > -- "Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
> > people's money-only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph
> > Sobran[/color]
>
> You don't know what other charities anyone supports. The church gets
> a fraction of what I give.[/color]

I would be interested in what you support. When you say the church
gets a fraction, does that mean less than 1% of your income? I have
managed to make it up to 7.5% of mine.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DH, 11/17/2006,4:30:20 PM, wrote:
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>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0ettvcc3amq2700a@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>> > dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
>> ><repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
>> > > liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
>> > > American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
>> > > have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
>> > > the face of social injustice."
>> >
>> > I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church
>> > that those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
>> > conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to
>> > figure out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got
>> > to see the pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and
>> > their political leanings. Granted this is not a scientific
>> > analysis but all in all I knew where the church's income source was
>> > during that time period.
>> >
>> > -- "Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
>> > people's money-only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph
>> > Sobran[/color]
>>
>> You don't know what other charities anyone supports. The church gets
>> a fraction of what I give.[/color]
>
> I would be interested in what you support. When you say the church
> gets a fraction, does that mean less than 1% of your income? I have
> managed to make it up to 7.5% of mine.[/color]

I give about 5 to 6%. The church gets about 2%, except in years when we've
got a capital campaign going, then they get more. The rest goes to PBS,
NPR, United Way (well, my wife does that, not me), Scouts (Boy and Girl),
the local food shelf, various school projects, local museums, some of the
colleges and universities that we or the kids attended.



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I had no idea corporations are conservative or liberal or that they donate
million whether they want to or not LOL

mike hunt


"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:qrq7h.39$1s6.33@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> My wife is a Ph.D. statistician. She will tell you that most studies such
> as this are flawed. Especially likely here because instead of being
> published where it could be reviewed by peers, he is out to make a buck.
> Also he is an economist, not a Ph.D. statistician. His analysis would be
> highly suspect. Also, people with large salaries often work for big
> corporations where there is tremendous pressure to give large sums yearly
> the "United Way" whether you want to or not. That by itself could make
> his conclusions in correct as far as why people are giving.
>
>
>
> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
>> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>>
>>
>>
>> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
>> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
>> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have
>> nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face
>> of social injustice."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But WE knew this already.
>> --
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

I would think really hard before giving money to large private universities.
If you compare them to other charities, the reserves they keep (they call
them "endowments") are outrageous.



"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0ettylo18iq7c000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> DH, 11/17/2006,4:30:20 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xn0ettvcc3amq2700a@news.readfreenews.net...
>>> > dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
>>> ><repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
>>> > > liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
>>> > > American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
>>> > > have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
>>> > > the face of social injustice."
>>> >
>>> > I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church
>>> > that those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
>>> > conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to
>>> > figure out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got
>>> > to see the pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and
>>> > their political leanings. Granted this is not a scientific
>>> > analysis but all in all I knew where the church's income source was
>>> > during that time period.
>>> >
>>> > -- "Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
>>> > people's money-only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph
>>> > Sobran
>>>
>>> You don't know what other charities anyone supports. The church gets
>>> a fraction of what I give.[/color]
>>
>> I would be interested in what you support. When you say the church
>> gets a fraction, does that mean less than 1% of your income? I have
>> managed to make it up to 7.5% of mine.[/color]
>
> I give about 5 to 6%. The church gets about 2%, except in years when
> we've got a capital campaign going, then they get more. The rest goes to
> PBS, NPR, United Way (well, my wife does that, not me), Scouts (Boy and
> Girl), the local food shelf, various school projects, local museums, some
> of the colleges and universities that we or the kids attended.
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url]
>[/color]

Most lefties are penny clutching dweebs. Ask any waiter/waitress. Why do you
think they want to raise taxes?Somehow they think that someone else will be
paying. Since so many feed at the government trough, they think the tax base
is infinite. Ask the Dums to define middle class. The reality of their tax
the rich plans is that anyone making over 30k is rich, so tax'em. They
resent a hard working person making more than they do while they do little
to help their own sorry lazy selves. Helping the poor means creating govt.
jobs for themselves so they work in their sweat suits and get fat behind a
desk doing nothing but thinking of what to order for lunch.



"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:NNadnX50Pf_p3cPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
>I had no idea corporations are conservative or liberal or that they donate
>million whether they want to or not LOL
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:qrq7h.39$1s6.33@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> My wife is a Ph.D. statistician. She will tell you that most studies
>> such as this are flawed. Especially likely here because instead of being
>> published where it could be reviewed by peers, he is out to make a buck.
>> Also he is an economist, not a Ph.D. statistician. His analysis would be
>> highly suspect. Also, people with large salaries often work for big
>> corporations where there is tremendous pressure to give large sums yearly
>> the "United Way" whether you want to or not. That by itself could make
>> his conclusions in correct as far as why people are giving.
>>
>>
>>
>> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
>> news:repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>>> <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
>>> liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
>>> American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have
>>> nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face
>>> of social injustice."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But WE knew this already.
>>> --
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Roadrunner NG wrote:[color=blue]
> Most lefties are penny clutching dweebs.[/color]

because they EARN their money...

asshats like "kenny boy" lay blew millions apon millions of stolen dollars.

SoCalMike, 11/20/2006,9:46:32 PM, wrote:
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> Roadrunner NG wrote:[color=green]
> > Most lefties are penny clutching dweebs.[/color]
>
> because they EARN their money...[/color]


Wrong. They have the government take it away from others and give it
to them.

--
"In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as
possible from one class of citizens to give it to the other." ~ Voltaire

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> SoCalMike, 11/20/2006,9:46:32 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Roadrunner NG wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > Most lefties are penny clutching dweebs.[/color]
>>
>> because they EARN their money...[/color]
>
>
> Wrong. They have the government take it away from others and give it
> to them.
>[/color]

Then why the heck do I go to work every day?

It's not like we have free latte's here or anything like that.
[color=blue]
> --
> "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as
> possible from one class of citizens to give it to the other." ~ Voltaire[/color]




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badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> dbu', 11/17/2006, 2:56:09 PM,
> <repubs-ED40EB.13560917112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > <http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html>
> >
> >
> >
> > When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long,
> > liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of
> > American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they
> > have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in
> > the face of social injustice."[/color]
>
> I can tell you as a former Finance Committee Chairman of my church that
> those who contributed a larger percentage of their salary were
> conservative. Every year we have pledges made to the church to figure
> out how we will fund the annual budget. As Chairman I got to see the
> pledges as they were processed and I knew the folks and their political
> leanings. Granted this is not a scientific analysis but all in all I
> knew where the church's income source was during that time period.
>
> --
> "Politicians never accuse you of greed for wanting to take other
> people's money-only for wanting to keep your own money." ~ Joseph Sobran[/color]



Since when is giving money to a Church charitable? They spend that
money on the needy
or the community about as much as a country club does. Few exceptions,
but certainly no church associated with the conservative right.
Church's are just social clubs for the self righteous.

ToMh, 11/21/2006,6:47:35 PM, wrote:
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> Since when is giving money to a Church charitable? They spend that
> money on the needy
> or the community about as much as a country club does. Few
> exceptions, but certainly no church associated with the conservative
> right. Church's are just social clubs for the self righteous.[/color]

You are so wrong as usual. My church is famous for its outreach all
over locally, regionally, overseas, and as of last year Mississippi.

Locally we provide the homeless shelter during the winter months, we
have a food pantry for people who need food, we provide rooms for
support groups.

Regionally we send mission teams to Tennessee and other parts of
Virginia to build homes and repair structures for the people of the
Appalachians.

We used to send two mission teams to Honduras after Hurricane Mitch
devastated that country for years until we decided to support
Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina. We support a missionary in
Vietnam who is bringing the message to the people of that country.

These are just some of the direct projects we are involved in, not to
mention the money we send to the United Methodist Conference of
Virginia for more organized support all around the world. After the
tsunami destroyed Indonesia the United Methodist Conference on Relief
was the first international organization there providing relief and
other such things.

Why don't you investigate personally what churches do for others before
making remarks that make you look stupid. Your prejudice against
religion shouldn't blind you to the immense good it does for people
without creating a dependent welfare system like the government social
services does. People give of their money and time freely to churches
instead of having it taken away by the government.