OT Wal Mart Health Insurance

[url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]

You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
throwing stones at Wal Mart....


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Scott in Florida

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>
> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
> throwing stones at Wal Mart....
> Scott in Florida
>[/color]

I notice that as an example of a happy employee, they use a guy from their
IT department, and we both know his income is far beyond what a store
associate makes. This leads to a question: What does the medical insurance
cost?

In article <ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
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> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>
> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
> throwing stones at Wal Mart....[/color]

It's better than a lot of companies, I see they even offer some dental
and access to HMO coverage in some places.
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"dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
news:repubs-99D258.14521618112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>>
>> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
>> throwing stones at Wal Mart....[/color]
>
> It's better than a lot of companies, I see they even offer some dental
> and access to HMO coverage in some places.
> --
>[/color]

Without details about the cost, this information has no meaning.

In article <IsK7h.5702$Ka1.5634@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-99D258.14521618112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
> >>
> >> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
> >> throwing stones at Wal Mart....[/color]
> >
> > It's better than a lot of companies, I see they even offer some dental
> > and access to HMO coverage in some places.
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> Without details about the cost, this information has no meaning.[/color]

Not to mention, deductibles, co-pays, maximum out of pocket costs
and whether their policy is governed by "ERISA."
(employee retirement and income security act)

It would be interesting to see what the cost is.
As I have said before for my retiree government cost per month is nearly
$1000 my share is about 1/3 plus all the co-pays deductibles etc. This is
the Federal workers Blue plan which the Dems want to put into effect for the
55 million on Medicaid.

{I have medicare as primary but wife uses this plan. Our out of pocket for
her for co-pays and deductible about 1500-2000 year.}

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:47 GMT, aarcuda69062
<nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>In article <IsK7h.5702$Ka1.5634@news01.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
>> news:repubs-99D258.14521618112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>> > In article <ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com>,
>> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>> >>
>> >> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
>> >> throwing stones at Wal Mart....
>> >
>> > It's better than a lot of companies, I see they even offer some dental
>> > and access to HMO coverage in some places.
>> > --
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Without details about the cost, this information has no meaning.[/color]
>
>Not to mention, deductibles, co-pays, maximum out of pocket costs
>and whether their policy is governed by "ERISA."
>(employee retirement and income security act)[/color]

If you are interested in the details, drop by your local Wally
world and ask...

Of course you could stay on the Net and bitch without any concrete
info....if you are a liberal....LOL


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Scott in Florida

In article <8kbvl256d5nmpi623349uefkdpbftja1uk@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
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> >Not to mention, deductibles, co-pays, maximum out of pocket costs
> >and whether their policy is governed by "ERISA."
> >(employee retirement and income security act)[/color]
>
> If you are interested in the details,[/color]

Nope, not interested at all.
Figured that you were since you brought it all up though...
[color=blue]
> drop by your local Wally
> world and ask...[/color]

I'd rather not... ya see, we're trying to cut the water bill
down a bit and I've already showered this morning.
[color=blue]
> Of course you could stay on the Net and bitch[/color]

???
[color=blue]
> without any concrete
> info....if you are a liberal....LOL[/color]

If I were a liberal. Then again, -IF- Walmart had anything in
common with conservative politics.

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:8kbvl256d5nmpi623349uefkdpbftja1uk@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:56:47 GMT, aarcuda69062
> <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>In article <IsK7h.5702$Ka1.5634@news01.roc.ny>,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
>>> news:repubs-99D258.14521618112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> > In article <ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com>,
>>> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>>> >>
>>> >> You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
>>> >> throwing stones at Wal Mart....
>>> >
>>> > It's better than a lot of companies, I see they even offer some dental
>>> > and access to HMO coverage in some places.
>>> > --
>>> >
>>>
>>> Without details about the cost, this information has no meaning.[/color]
>>
>>Not to mention, deductibles, co-pays, maximum out of pocket costs
>>and whether their policy is governed by "ERISA."
>>(employee retirement and income security act)[/color]
>
> If you are interested in the details, drop by your local Wally
> world and ask...
>
> Of course you could stay on the Net and bitch without any concrete
> info....if you are a liberal....LOL[/color]

Since you're claiming that WM's benefits are good for their employees, YOU
should find out how much an associate has to pay for those benefits,
smartass. The link you provided earlier used an IT professional as an
example. His salary is in no way similar to that of the person in the blue
apron stocking aspirin on the shelves at a store.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dZP7h.5719$Ka1.1189@news01.roc.ny...[color=blue]
> Since you're claiming that WM's benefits are good for their employees, YOU
> should find out how much an associate has to pay for those benefits,
> smartass. The link you provided earlier used an IT professional as an
> example. His salary is in no way similar to that of the person in the blue
> apron stocking aspirin on the shelves at a store.[/color]

The real question is what kind of health insurance is offered by Wal-Mart
competitors (including the small mom and pop stores that some people think
are being hurt by Wal-Mart). I believe that Wal-Mart has above average
benefits for these types of workers. That is not to say that they are best,
but above average.

Of course, not everyone can afford to shop at places like Whole-Foods
Market, where retail workers have excellent health insurance. But on the
other hand, Whole Foods Market hires mostly younger workers (yes, they
discriminate) who have much lower health care costs and are often single or
have small families, and Wal-Mart has a large number of senior workers and a
fair number of handicapped workers, and workers with larger families.
Insurance companies charge premiums based on the demographics of the company
workforce.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:[color=blue]
> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> news:ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
> >
> > You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
> > throwing stones at Wal Mart....
> > Scott in Florida
> >[/color]
>
> I notice that as an example of a happy employee, they use a guy from their
> IT department, and we both know his income is far beyond what a store
> associate makes.[/color]

HAHAHA!!!! That is a riot!!! They used a college-educated
professional from Corporate as their example?? What is that, about 1%
of their employee population???

Keep drinking the koolaid Scott.
[color=blue]
> This leads to a question: What does the medical insurance
> cost?[/color]

Where I work, the health insurance is FREE for me and my entire family.
And the mailroom guy and the janitor have the same coverage I do.
That is how it should be for ALL Americans.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message[color=blue]
> Where I work, the health insurance is FREE for me and my entire family.
> And the mailroom guy and the janitor have the same coverage I do.
> That is how it should be for ALL Americans.[/color]

Most non-governmental companies do not offer health in insurance for free.
Most companies pay about 80% of the of the monthly insurance premiums and
the employee pays the remainder. The employee is usually responsible for
co-pay amounts for doctor office visits, and other miscellaneous amounts.

But the question is whether Wal-Mart is any worse than its competitors
(large retailers and the small shops that frequently go out of business when
a Wal_mart is opened). The answer is that for retail workers, Wal-Mart has
above average benefits.

On 19 Nov 2006 07:03:28 -0800, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>JoeSpareBedroom wrote:[color=green]
>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>> news:ihrul2ptukvu4d76aiepjsprrbo4ekukll@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>> > [url]http://walmartstores.com/GlobalWMStoresWeb/navigate.do?catg=606[/url]
>> >
>> > You Wal Mart bashers really should investigate the facts before
>> > throwing stones at Wal Mart....
>> > Scott in Florida
>> >[/color]
>>
>> I notice that as an example of a happy employee, they use a guy from their
>> IT department, and we both know his income is far beyond what a store
>> associate makes.[/color]
>
>HAHAHA!!!! That is a riot!!! They used a college-educated
>professional from Corporate as their example?? What is that, about 1%
>of their employee population???
>
>Keep drinking the koolaid Scott.
>[color=green]
>> This leads to a question: What does the medical insurance
>> cost?[/color]
>
>Where I work, the health insurance is FREE for me and my entire family.
> And the mailroom guy and the janitor have the same coverage I do.
>That is how it should be for ALL Americans.[/color]

Nothing is 'free'.....

Your wages have been reduced by the amount your company paid for your
insurance...

Free is the WORST possible way to get health care....

No one respects or uses wisely things that are 'given' free....


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Scott in Florida

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:EcCdnddIMtfX6_3YnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message[color=green]
>> Where I work, the health insurance is FREE for me and my entire family.
>> And the mailroom guy and the janitor have the same coverage I do.
>> That is how it should be for ALL Americans.[/color]
>
> Most non-governmental companies do not offer health in insurance for free.
> Most companies pay about 80% of the of the monthly insurance premiums and
> the employee pays the remainder. The employee is usually responsible for
> co-pay amounts for doctor office visits, and other miscellaneous amounts.
>
> But the question is whether Wal-Mart is any worse than its competitors
> (large retailers and the small shops that frequently go out of business
> when a Wal_mart is opened). The answer is that for retail workers,
> Wal-Mart has above average benefits.[/color]

How long can this question go unanswered??? "Above average" means nothing
without numbers.

I want a dollar figure - the actual cost of medical insurance for a store
associate. Not the manager. Not a computer professional at WM's
headquarters. An associate - the person in the blue apron who's making
somewhere between minimum wage and $10 per hour.

Without this information, it's meaningless to say WM has great benefits. The
fact that the insurance is available means nothing without knowing whether a
full time, low wage employee can afford to buy it.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:[color=blue]
> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:EcCdnddIMtfX6_3YnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message[color=darkred]
> >> Where I work, the health insurance is FREE for me and my entire family.
> >> And the mailroom guy and the janitor have the same coverage I do.
> >> That is how it should be for ALL Americans.[/color]
> >
> > Most non-governmental companies do not offer health in insurance for free.
> > Most companies pay about 80% of the of the monthly insurance premiums and
> > the employee pays the remainder. The employee is usually responsible for
> > co-pay amounts for doctor office visits, and other miscellaneous amounts.
> >
> > But the question is whether Wal-Mart is any worse than its competitors
> > (large retailers and the small shops that frequently go out of business
> > when a Wal_mart is opened). The answer is that for retail workers,
> > Wal-Mart has above average benefits.[/color]
>
> How long can this question go unanswered??? "Above average" means nothing
> without numbers.[/color]

No SHIT man. "Above average"? Does that mean the same as "cut 'n
run"? Or does it mean the same as "flip-floppers"?

Oh man. Sunday morning and the RRRs have already given me a migraine.[color=blue]
>
> I want a dollar figure - the actual cost of medical insurance for a store
> associate. Not the manager. Not a computer professional at WM's
> headquarters. An associate - the person in the blue apron who's making
> somewhere between minimum wage and $10 per hour.[/color]

HAHAHA 10 bucks an hour and has to shoulder this "market-driven
healthcare system". Get real. Damn, that is just immoral. Pays the
same as someone who probably makes around $85,000 a year.
[color=blue]
>
> Without this information, it's meaningless to say WM has great benefits. The
> fact that the insurance is available means nothing without knowing whether a
> full time, low wage employee can afford to buy it.[/color]

Mark A. and Scott, come over here so I can smack the hell out of both
of you for being so stupid.