OT - passports required

Seems like a good idea to me:

[url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url]

"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Seems like a good idea to me:
>
> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url]
>[/color]

Well, it'll mean that a lot more US citizens will have to purchase passports
from the Feds (for about $100 a pop, including polariod closeups ) That fee
has got to be a ripoff.

In article <1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Seems like a good idea to me:
>
> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url][/color]

We have been very sloppy in the past. Now finally with an
administration that is not afraid of it's own shadow, it has taken
action. Three cheers for GWB and the Bush administration. I wish we
could have him for another term.
--

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Seems like a good idea to me:
>>
>> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> Well, it'll mean that a lot more US citizens will have to purchase
> passports from the Feds (for about $100 a pop, including polariod
> closeups ) That fee has got to be a ripoff.
>[/color]
Any person anywhere in the world should be prepared to show a passport upon
crossing a border. This is really a non-event for most people. I suppose
passage to Canada or Mexico, and back will present new issues for Americans,
but most places require a passport to enter, therefore American travellers
will have a passport to get back into America.

I don't see any problem for the vast majority of Americans that travel.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:50:00 -0600, dbu' <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote:
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>In article <1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Seems like a good idea to me:
>>
>> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url][/color]
>
>We have been very sloppy in the past. Now finally with an
>administration that is not afraid of it's own shadow, it has taken
>action. Three cheers for GWB and the Bush administration. I wish we
>could have him for another term.[/color]

That should bring out the kooks.


--

Scott in Florida

"dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
news:repubs-537010.16500022112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Seems like a good idea to me:
>>
>> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url][/color]
>
> We have been very sloppy in the past. Now finally with an
> administration that is not afraid of it's own shadow, it has taken
> action. Three cheers for GWB and the Bush administration. I wish we
> could have him for another term.[/color]

Ties in a bit, & is a bit tangential:

In '86 I went on a vacation to the UK. This was 3 months after Reagan had
bombed Libya, trying to get Ghaddaffi (but got his 2 yr. old daughter
instead... anyway), & shortly after a pregnant woman had been caught trying
to board a plane at Heathrow - unbeknownst to her, her Middle Eastern bf had
planted plastic explosives in her carry-on (some bf... well shot of *that*
guy!). Came back home, getting into JFK at 8:30 pm.

No one, & I mean *no one* who worked for the airport/immigration was there,
nevermind checking the passports of anyone who got off that plane. We
literally just walked into the country, with the most lax security one could
possibly imagine. It was a stiflingly hot July night, & we couldn't even
find anyone to ask where the nearest available soda was! *No* one was
around, at all. Took us a long while, walking around, to find anyone who
worked there.

This still ticks me off, 20 years later. Complete lack of security, & in
huge contrast to the security we'd just seen at Gatwick (London). Since then
witnessed tight security at Gatwick again, & at de Gaulle (maddening
airport, IMO, but at least its security's decent!). But it appears the US
still manages to continue to lag, hopefully making people feel like it's
doing something (and managing to annoy many) by limiting the likes of
toothpaste, while neglecting the stuff that matters!

Cathy
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>[/color]

In article <it6dnQmND7GUQ_nYnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
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> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-537010.16500022112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Seems like a good idea to me:
> >>
> >> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url][/color]
> >
> > We have been very sloppy in the past. Now finally with an
> > administration that is not afraid of it's own shadow, it has taken
> > action. Three cheers for GWB and the Bush administration. I wish we
> > could have him for another term.[/color]
>
> Ties in a bit, & is a bit tangential:
>
> In '86 I went on a vacation to the UK. This was 3 months after Reagan had
> bombed Libya, trying to get Ghaddaffi (but got his 2 yr. old daughter
> instead... anyway), & shortly after a pregnant woman had been caught trying
> to board a plane at Heathrow - unbeknownst to her, her Middle Eastern bf had
> planted plastic explosives in her carry-on (some bf... well shot of *that*
> guy!). Came back home, getting into JFK at 8:30 pm.
>
> No one, & I mean *no one* who worked for the airport/immigration was there,
> nevermind checking the passports of anyone who got off that plane. We
> literally just walked into the country, with the most lax security one could
> possibly imagine. It was a stiflingly hot July night, & we couldn't even
> find anyone to ask where the nearest available soda was! *No* one was
> around, at all. Took us a long while, walking around, to find anyone who
> worked there.
>
> This still ticks me off, 20 years later. Complete lack of security, & in
> huge contrast to the security we'd just seen at Gatwick (London). Since then
> witnessed tight security at Gatwick again, & at de Gaulle (maddening
> airport, IMO, but at least its security's decent!). But it appears the US
> still manages to continue to lag, hopefully making people feel like it's
> doing something (and managing to annoy many) by limiting the likes of
> toothpaste, while neglecting the stuff that matters!
>
> Cathy
>[color=green]
> >[/color][/color]

Blame it on the muslim terrorists. The TSB has to respond to threats
regardless if it's weak, rumor or real they have no way of really
knowing and have to take every crank call ect as a real threat. It's a
vastly different world from twenty years ago. Remember also we have
some here in the U.S. that seem to think our freedoms are being
compromised and yell loudly in protest when they get the shoes checked,
but would protest even more loudly if that A/C were one that was a
target of terrorism.
--

Was going on a cruise this spring - got passports. Took maybe 10 minutes to
have county clerk process. (I'd filled out the forms on-line).

IMO, if you can afford to travel, a $100 passport every 10 years isn't too
stiff a price. Maybe just maybe we will finally get into the mindset that
security might pay some dividends.
Ron

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:it6dnQmND7GUQ_nYnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-537010.16500022112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
>> In article <1164227239.432777.287250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Seems like a good idea to me:
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061122-021530-2672r.htm[/url][/color]
>>
>> We have been very sloppy in the past. Now finally with an
>> administration that is not afraid of it's own shadow, it has taken
>> action. Three cheers for GWB and the Bush administration. I wish we
>> could have him for another term.[/color]
>
> Ties in a bit, & is a bit tangential:
>
> In '86 I went on a vacation to the UK. This was 3 months after Reagan had
> bombed Libya, trying to get Ghaddaffi (but got his 2 yr. old daughter
> instead... anyway), & shortly after a pregnant woman had been caught
> trying to board a plane at Heathrow - unbeknownst to her, her Middle
> Eastern bf had planted plastic explosives in her carry-on (some bf... well
> shot of *that* guy!). Came back home, getting into JFK at 8:30 pm.
>
> No one, & I mean *no one* who worked for the airport/immigration was
> there, nevermind checking the passports of anyone who got off that plane.
> We literally just walked into the country, with the most lax security one
> could possibly imagine. It was a stiflingly hot July night, & we couldn't
> even find anyone to ask where the nearest available soda was! *No* one
> was around, at all. Took us a long while, walking around, to find anyone
> who worked there.
>
> This still ticks me off, 20 years later. Complete lack of security, & in
> huge contrast to the security we'd just seen at Gatwick (London). Since
> then witnessed tight security at Gatwick again, & at de Gaulle (maddening
> airport, IMO, but at least its security's decent!). But it appears the US
> still manages to continue to lag, hopefully making people feel like it's
> doing something (and managing to annoy many) by limiting the likes of
> toothpaste, while neglecting the stuff that matters!
>
> Cathy[/color]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cathy's story reminds me of what a coworker of mine went thru when she
visited the Holy Land years ago. It was only three weeks after the Lod
Airport massacre in Israel, and when the plane landed at Lod, the passengers
were instructed to come off the plane in groups of four, with handbags held
in one hand and their passports held in the other hand. Each group of four
passengers was escorted by a pair of Israeli soldiers with Uzis. When they
got to customs and immigration, the inspectors wents through this woman's
baggage so carefully that at one point the inspector took out a jar of her
cold cream, unscrewed the jar's cap, stuck one finger in the cream all the
way to the bottom of the jar, and announced to her, "Yes, that's cold
cream!"