Re: Motor Trend names Camry Car of the Year

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> So what. It is worthwhile to remember that the Chevrolet Vega was "Car of
> the Year" in 1970 (or was it 1971?). Car of the Year usually goes to the
> manufacturer who promises to place the most ads.
>
> Ed
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>
>[/color]

The official list, courtesy of Wikipedia.

2006 Honda Civic
2005 Chrysler 300C
2004 Toyota Prius
2003 Infiniti G35
2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroën SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega
1970 Ford Torino
1969 Plymouth Road Runner
1968 Pontiac GTO
1967 Mercury Cougar
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
1965 Pontiac Motor Division
1964 Ford Motor Company (Not for the Mustang)
1963 American MotorsRambler
1962 Buick Special
1961 Pontiac Tempest
1960 Chevrolet Corvair
1959 Pontiac Motor Division
1958 Ford Thunderbird
1957 Chrysler Corporation
1956 Ford Motor Company
1955 Chevrolet Motor Division
1954 No award
1953 No award
1952 Cadillac Motor Division
1951 Chrysler Corporation
1950 No award
1949 Cadillac Motor Division




[edit] Import Car of the Year
After the 1999 model year, Import Car of the Year became one and the same
with Car of the Year.

1999 Volkswagen New Beetle
1998 Lexus GS
1997 BMW 5-Series
1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
1995 Nissan Maxima
1994 Honda Accord
1993 Mazda RX-7
1992 Lexus SC 400
1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
1989 Mitsubishi Galant GS
1988 Honda CRX Si
1987 Acura Legend Coupe
1986 Mazda RX-7
1985 Toyota MR2
1984 Honda Civic CRX
1983 Mazda 626
1982 Toyota Celica Supra
1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD
1980 Honda Civic
1979 Datsun 280ZX
1978 Toyota Celica
1977 Mercedes-Benz 280E
1976 Toyota Celica Liftback
1970 Porsche 914
There are more than a few bowsers in there. My brother used to own a 79
Datsun 280ZX.

Note there's no Corollas on the list.

Charles of Schaumburg

1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.


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>>
>> So what. It is worthwhile to remember that the Chevrolet Vega was "Car of
>> the Year" in 1970 (or was it 1971?). Car of the Year usually goes to the
>> manufacturer who promises to place the most ads.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
> The official list, courtesy of Wikipedia.
>
> 2006 Honda Civic
> 2005 Chrysler 300C
> 2004 Toyota Prius
> 2003 Infiniti G35
> 2002 Ford Thunderbird
> 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
> 2000 Lincoln LS
> 1999 Chrysler 300M
> 1998 Chevrolet Corvette
> 1997 Chevrolet Malibu
> 1996 Dodge Caravan
> 1995 Chrysler Cirrus
> 1994 Ford Mustang
> 1993 Ford Probe GT
> 1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
> 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
> 1990 Lincoln Town Car
> 1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
> 1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
> 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
> 1986 Ford Taurus LX
> 1985 Volkswagen GTI
> 1984 Chevrolet Corvette
> 1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
> 1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
> 1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
> 1980 Chevrolet Citation
> 1979 Buick Riviera S
> 1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
> 1977 Chevrolet Caprice
> 1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
> 1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
> 1974 Ford Mustang II
> 1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
> 1972 Citroën SM
> 1971 Chevrolet Vega
> 1970 Ford Torino
> 1969 Plymouth Road Runner
> 1968 Pontiac GTO
> 1967 Mercury Cougar
> 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
> 1965 Pontiac Motor Division
> 1964 Ford Motor Company (Not for the Mustang)
> 1963 American MotorsRambler
> 1962 Buick Special
> 1961 Pontiac Tempest
> 1960 Chevrolet Corvair
> 1959 Pontiac Motor Division
> 1958 Ford Thunderbird
> 1957 Chrysler Corporation
> 1956 Ford Motor Company
> 1955 Chevrolet Motor Division
> 1954 No award
> 1953 No award
> 1952 Cadillac Motor Division
> 1951 Chrysler Corporation
> 1950 No award
> 1949 Cadillac Motor Division
>
>
>
>
> [edit] Import Car of the Year
> After the 1999 model year, Import Car of the Year became one and the same
> with Car of the Year.
>
> 1999 Volkswagen New Beetle
> 1998 Lexus GS
> 1997 BMW 5-Series
> 1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
> 1995 Nissan Maxima
> 1994 Honda Accord
> 1993 Mazda RX-7
> 1992 Lexus SC 400
> 1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
> 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
> 1989 Mitsubishi Galant GS
> 1988 Honda CRX Si
> 1987 Acura Legend Coupe
> 1986 Mazda RX-7
> 1985 Toyota MR2
> 1984 Honda Civic CRX
> 1983 Mazda 626
> 1982 Toyota Celica Supra
> 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD
> 1980 Honda Civic
> 1979 Datsun 280ZX
> 1978 Toyota Celica
> 1977 Mercedes-Benz 280E
> 1976 Toyota Celica Liftback
> 1970 Porsche 914
> There are more than a few bowsers in there. My brother used to own a 79
> Datsun 280ZX.
>
> Note there's no Corollas on the list.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

In article <C6t9h.2668$ql2.2062@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> 1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.[/color]

They sold well, were small and easy on gas. I had one of the sporty
models with a manual tranny. It went thru two clutches and still
shuttered. Dodge boys never could figure out the problem. I got rid of
it at around 75 k miles. I had two more Dodges after that one before
finally getting my senses and going with Toyota. The Toyotas have been
trouble free.

[color=blue]
>
>
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> >> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> >> news:repubs-E443CF.03460922112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >>> <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15833397/>
> >>
> >> So what. It is worthwhile to remember that the Chevrolet Vega was "Car of
> >> the Year" in 1970 (or was it 1971?). Car of the Year usually goes to the
> >> manufacturer who promises to place the most ads.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> > The official list, courtesy of Wikipedia.
> >
> > 2006 Honda Civic
> > 2005 Chrysler 300C
> > 2004 Toyota Prius
> > 2003 Infiniti G35
> > 2002 Ford Thunderbird
> > 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
> > 2000 Lincoln LS
> > 1999 Chrysler 300M
> > 1998 Chevrolet Corvette
> > 1997 Chevrolet Malibu
> > 1996 Dodge Caravan
> > 1995 Chrysler Cirrus
> > 1994 Ford Mustang
> > 1993 Ford Probe GT
> > 1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
> > 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
> > 1990 Lincoln Town Car
> > 1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
> > 1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
> > 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
> > 1986 Ford Taurus LX
> > 1985 Volkswagen GTI
> > 1984 Chevrolet Corvette
> > 1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
> > 1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
> > 1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
> > 1980 Chevrolet Citation
> > 1979 Buick Riviera S
> > 1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
> > 1977 Chevrolet Caprice
> > 1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
> > 1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
> > 1974 Ford Mustang II
> > 1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
> > 1972 Citroën SM
> > 1971 Chevrolet Vega
> > 1970 Ford Torino
> > 1969 Plymouth Road Runner
> > 1968 Pontiac GTO
> > 1967 Mercury Cougar
> > 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
> > 1965 Pontiac Motor Division
> > 1964 Ford Motor Company (Not for the Mustang)
> > 1963 American MotorsRambler
> > 1962 Buick Special
> > 1961 Pontiac Tempest
> > 1960 Chevrolet Corvair
> > 1959 Pontiac Motor Division
> > 1958 Ford Thunderbird
> > 1957 Chrysler Corporation
> > 1956 Ford Motor Company
> > 1955 Chevrolet Motor Division
> > 1954 No award
> > 1953 No award
> > 1952 Cadillac Motor Division
> > 1951 Chrysler Corporation
> > 1950 No award
> > 1949 Cadillac Motor Division
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [edit] Import Car of the Year
> > After the 1999 model year, Import Car of the Year became one and the same
> > with Car of the Year.
> >
> > 1999 Volkswagen New Beetle
> > 1998 Lexus GS
> > 1997 BMW 5-Series
> > 1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
> > 1995 Nissan Maxima
> > 1994 Honda Accord
> > 1993 Mazda RX-7
> > 1992 Lexus SC 400
> > 1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
> > 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
> > 1989 Mitsubishi Galant GS
> > 1988 Honda CRX Si
> > 1987 Acura Legend Coupe
> > 1986 Mazda RX-7
> > 1985 Toyota MR2
> > 1984 Honda Civic CRX
> > 1983 Mazda 626
> > 1982 Toyota Celica Supra
> > 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD
> > 1980 Honda Civic
> > 1979 Datsun 280ZX
> > 1978 Toyota Celica
> > 1977 Mercedes-Benz 280E
> > 1976 Toyota Celica Liftback
> > 1970 Porsche 914
> > There are more than a few bowsers in there. My brother used to own a 79
> > Datsun 280ZX.
> >
> > Note there's no Corollas on the list.
> >
> > Charles of Schaumburg
> >[/color][/color]
--

Ah yes the 2000 Lincoln LS. I bought a V8 LS in July of 1999. I was
replacing my 97 Lexus LS V8 and the Lexus dealer was trying to sell me a
1999, the 2000 was not out, at a price $4,000 over MSRP and offering me
$2,000 less than wholesale for my car.

After six Lexus LS V8s, I guess he thought he has me for life. After
reading MT comparison between the new RWD Lincoln, I took one for a drive.
The dealer gave me such a great price, that after I sold my Lexus to a
friend, I saved a total for $25,000. That was nearly enough to drive home
the Mustang GT convertible I bought at the same time.

I subsequently purchased a 2001, 2003, and a 2005 LSs from the FLM
dealership, just down the street for the Lexus dealership, as well as a
2001, 2003, 2005, and 2007 Mustang GT convertibles. I bought a 2006 Lincoln
Zephyr and kept the 05 to use when I'm in Key West. I will add it to my
stable of old cars eventually. They were great cars, as good as any Lexus I
ever owned and at 20K less to drive home. Too bad they stopped making them,
I would have purchased another. Lexus lost a customer and eight sales so
far, because of a stupid dealer. ;)


mike


"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> 1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.
>
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OMCdnTgIsbvpKvjYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
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>> "C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>>> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
>>> news:repubs-E443CF.03460922112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15833397/>
>>>
>>> So what. It is worthwhile to remember that the Chevrolet Vega was "Car
>>> of
>>> the Year" in 1970 (or was it 1971?). Car of the Year usually goes to the
>>> manufacturer who promises to place the most ads.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The official list, courtesy of Wikipedia.
>>
>> 2006 Honda Civic
>> 2005 Chrysler 300C
>> 2004 Toyota Prius
>> 2003 Infiniti G35
>> 2002 Ford Thunderbird
>> 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
>> 2000 Lincoln LS
>> 1999 Chrysler 300M
>> 1998 Chevrolet Corvette
>> 1997 Chevrolet Malibu
>> 1996 Dodge Caravan
>> 1995 Chrysler Cirrus
>> 1994 Ford Mustang
>> 1993 Ford Probe GT
>> 1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
>> 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
>> 1990 Lincoln Town Car
>> 1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
>> 1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
>> 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
>> 1986 Ford Taurus LX
>> 1985 Volkswagen GTI
>> 1984 Chevrolet Corvette
>> 1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
>> 1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
>> 1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
>> 1980 Chevrolet Citation
>> 1979 Buick Riviera S
>> 1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
>> 1977 Chevrolet Caprice
>> 1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
>> 1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
>> 1974 Ford Mustang II
>> 1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
>> 1972 Citroën SM
>> 1971 Chevrolet Vega
>> 1970 Ford Torino
>> 1969 Plymouth Road Runner
>> 1968 Pontiac GTO
>> 1967 Mercury Cougar
>> 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
>> 1965 Pontiac Motor Division
>> 1964 Ford Motor Company (Not for the Mustang)
>> 1963 American MotorsRambler
>> 1962 Buick Special
>> 1961 Pontiac Tempest
>> 1960 Chevrolet Corvair
>> 1959 Pontiac Motor Division
>> 1958 Ford Thunderbird
>> 1957 Chrysler Corporation
>> 1956 Ford Motor Company
>> 1955 Chevrolet Motor Division
>> 1954 No award
>> 1953 No award
>> 1952 Cadillac Motor Division
>> 1951 Chrysler Corporation
>> 1950 No award
>> 1949 Cadillac Motor Division
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [edit] Import Car of the Year
>> After the 1999 model year, Import Car of the Year became one and the same
>> with Car of the Year.
>>
>> 1999 Volkswagen New Beetle
>> 1998 Lexus GS
>> 1997 BMW 5-Series
>> 1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
>> 1995 Nissan Maxima
>> 1994 Honda Accord
>> 1993 Mazda RX-7
>> 1992 Lexus SC 400
>> 1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
>> 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
>> 1989 Mitsubishi Galant GS
>> 1988 Honda CRX Si
>> 1987 Acura Legend Coupe
>> 1986 Mazda RX-7
>> 1985 Toyota MR2
>> 1984 Honda Civic CRX
>> 1983 Mazda 626
>> 1982 Toyota Celica Supra
>> 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD
>> 1980 Honda Civic
>> 1979 Datsun 280ZX
>> 1978 Toyota Celica
>> 1977 Mercedes-Benz 280E
>> 1976 Toyota Celica Liftback
>> 1970 Porsche 914
>> There are more than a few bowsers in there. My brother used to own a 79
>> Datsun 280ZX.
>>
>> Note there's no Corollas on the list.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

The driver? ;)

mike

"dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
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[color=blue]
> In article <C6t9h.2668$ql2.2062@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> 1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.[/color]
>
> They sold well, were small and easy on gas. I had one of the sporty
> models with a manual tranny. It went thru two clutches and still
> shuttered. Dodge boys never could figure out the problem.[/color]

In article <PBadnW3gBKjztPrYUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> The driver? ;)
>
> mike[/color]

No I was not slipping the clutch nor did I pump the clutch at stop
lights to keep from rolling backwards. The darn thing would shudder
almost everytime I started out in first. I tried my darndest but I
think there was something out of round in it or wasn't flat. Anyway,
twenty six years ago. Yikes, I was only a kid at 38.
[color=blue]
>
> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
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>[color=green]
> > In article <C6t9h.2668$ql2.2062@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> 1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.[/color]
> >
> > They sold well, were small and easy on gas. I had one of the sporty
> > models with a manual tranny. It went thru two clutches and still
> > shuttered. Dodge boys never could figure out the problem.[/color][/color]
--

In article <JFM9h.3576$1s6.1300@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.[/color]

Did they ever publish the cause? I never got mine fixed, the Dodge boys
couldn't figure it out, LOL. I traded it in for another Dodge.....weird.
[color=blue]
>
>
> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-8850FB.11431324112006@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <PBadnW3gBKjztPrYUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
> > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> The driver? ;)
> >>
> >> mike[/color]
> >
> > No I was not slipping the clutch nor did I pump the clutch at stop
> > lights to keep from rolling backwards. The darn thing would shudder
> > almost everytime I started out in first. I tried my darndest but I
> > think there was something out of round in it or wasn't flat. Anyway,
> > twenty six years ago. Yikes, I was only a kid at 38.
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "dbu'" <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> > In article <C6t9h.2668$ql2.2062@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> >> > "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1978 Dodge Omni. Now that was a head turner.
> >> >
> >> > They sold well, were small and easy on gas. I had one of the sporty
> >> > models with a manual tranny. It went thru two clutches and still
> >> > shuttered. Dodge boys never could figure out the problem.[/color]
> > --
> >[/color][/color]
--

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.
>[/color]

I did not hear of any complaints of clutch shudder in any Tercel from the
time the Tercel was introduced until I left in 1993.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:JFM9h.3576$1s6.1300@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.
>>[/color]
>
> I did not hear of any complaints of clutch shudder in any Tercel from the
> time the Tercel was introduced until I left in 1993.[/color]
=====

Ray O, you know a lot about Toyotas but let's see if you can
answer this trivia question. I happen to know the answer, so
try to answer quickly without consulting any sources ;-)

What was the first model year for the fuel injected Tercel?

"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFM9h.3576$1s6.1300@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I did not hear of any complaints of clutch shudder in any Tercel from the
>> time the Tercel was introduced until I left in 1993.[/color]
> =====
>
> Ray O, you know a lot about Toyotas but let's see if you can
> answer this trivia question. I happen to know the answer, so
> try to answer quickly without consulting any sources ;-)
>
> What was the first model year for the fuel injected Tercel?[/color]

The Tercel has an electronically controlled carburetor around '85 or '86, so
I'd say the first fuel injected Tercel came out around '86 or '87.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4567d59d$0$59509$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...[color=green]
>> Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JFM9h.3576$1s6.1300@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.
>>>>
>>> I did not hear of any complaints of clutch shudder in any Tercel from the
>>> time the Tercel was introduced until I left in 1993.[/color]
>> =====
>>
>> Ray O, you know a lot about Toyotas but let's see if you can
>> answer this trivia question. I happen to know the answer, so
>> try to answer quickly without consulting any sources ;-)
>>
>> What was the first model year for the fuel injected Tercel?[/color]
>
> The Tercel has an electronically controlled carburetor around '85 or '86, so
> I'd say the first fuel injected Tercel came out around '86 or '87.[/color]
=====

Hmm, I didn't know the Tercel was so advanced even as far back as
'85 or '86.

I thought I read somewhere that the 1995 Tercel was the first one that
was truly fuel injected. That was the model year of my Tercel. But I
could be wrong.

"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4567d59d$0$59509$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Ray O wrote:
>>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:JFM9h.3576$1s6.1300@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>> Toyota had problems with shuttering clutches in 83 in their Tercels.
>>>>>
>>>> I did not hear of any complaints of clutch shudder in any Tercel from
>>>> the time the Tercel was introduced until I left in 1993.
>>> =====
>>>
>>> Ray O, you know a lot about Toyotas but let's see if you can
>>> answer this trivia question. I happen to know the answer, so
>>> try to answer quickly without consulting any sources ;-)
>>>
>>> What was the first model year for the fuel injected Tercel?[/color]
>>
>> The Tercel has an electronically controlled carburetor around '85 or '86,
>> so I'd say the first fuel injected Tercel came out around '86 or '87.[/color]
> =====
>
> Hmm, I didn't know the Tercel was so advanced even as far back as
> '85 or '86.
>
> I thought I read somewhere that the 1995 Tercel was the first one that
> was truly fuel injected. That was the model year of my Tercel. But I
> could be wrong.[/color]

It looks like fuel injection first appeared in the 1990 Tercel.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)