Automotive value??

[url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]

I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!

-Don
--
"What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
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> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
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> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>
> -Don[/color]

How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?

[url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]

[url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]

Going to be very difficult to displace the MINI - the new(2007) model is
going to be even more popular than the 2001 - 2006 model - and those will
continue to be desirable for modders and others looking for something a
little classier than the run of the mill econobox.

Jack G
2004 Highlander
2006 MINI Cooper S (not stock!)

"Don Fearn" <pooder@charter.net> wrote in message
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> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>
> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>
> -Don
> --
> "What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman[/color]

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
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>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>
>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>
>> -Don[/color]
>
> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>
> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>
> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>[/color]

Happens all the time in the MINI world - people load them up with
aftermarket stuff and then expect to get their money back - except for the
JCW works package it doesn't work out very well.

Jack G.

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
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>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>
>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>
>> -Don[/color]
>
> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>
> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>
> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>[/color]


it was explained to me by a scion salesman that scion has really strict
standards regarding vehicles taken in trade. IE: they wont take your
"upside down" car and add what you owe to the price of a new scion.

however... if the scion is used, it gets sold through *toyotas* used car
sales dept, which has lower standards and will take upside-down trades.

and since a lot of people are upside down and want a more efficient car,
theyre willing to buy a used scion and dump their upside down car.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:14:32 +0000, SoCalMike wrote:
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> Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
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>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>>
>>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>>
>>> -Don[/color]
>>
>> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>>
>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>>
>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>
> it was explained to me by a scion salesman that scion has really strict
> standards regarding vehicles taken in trade. IE: they wont take your
> "upside down" car and add what you owe to the price of a new scion.
>
> however... if the scion is used, it gets sold through *toyotas* used car
> sales dept, which has lower standards and will take upside-down trades.
>
> and since a lot of people are upside down and want a more efficient car,
> theyre willing to buy a used scion and dump their upside down car.[/color]


I had a feeling it had to do with the 'fixed' prices of Scions.
But, my thought was that there is more demand (esp for the tC) than supply
right now.

Comparatively, I got a bargain on mine. It had 11,775 when I bought it
mid-September, and now has 13200 on it. According to KBB, it's worth
$19,000! I like that!

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:15:40 +0000, Jack G wrote:
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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:sZ5bh.14201$LH2.9090@trndny04...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
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>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>>
>>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>>
>>> -Don[/color]
>>
>> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>>
>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>>
>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>>[/color]
>
> Happens all the time in the MINI world - people load them up with
> aftermarket stuff and then expect to get their money back - except for the
> JCW works package it doesn't work out very well.
>
> Jack G.[/color]


LOL! I was a Used Car Salesman! "Does it have 4 tires? Does it have an
exhaust? Does it have a radio?"

UCD's don't care WHAT 'extras' you put on a car. Is it a car and somewhat
near what the factory made? Good. Here's your NADA price!

Some guys would get mad. Oh, well. No one TOLD you to put $15,000 worth of
aftermarket accessories on it! Take them off and sell them on E-Bay, and
put the original stuff back on, cause that's all it's worth to me!

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:15:40 +0000, Jack G wrote:
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>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:sZ5bh.14201$LH2.9090@trndny04...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
>>>
>>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>>>
>>>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>>>
>>>> -Don
>>> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>>>
>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>>>
>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>>>[/color]
>> Happens all the time in the MINI world - people load them up with
>> aftermarket stuff and then expect to get their money back - except for the
>> JCW works package it doesn't work out very well.
>>
>> Jack G.[/color]
>
>
> LOL! I was a Used Car Salesman! "Does it have 4 tires? Does it have an
> exhaust? Does it have a radio?"
>
> UCD's don't care WHAT 'extras' you put on a car. Is it a car and somewhat
> near what the factory made? Good. Here's your NADA price!
>
> Some guys would get mad. Oh, well. No one TOLD you to put $15,000 worth of
> aftermarket accessories on it! Take them off and sell them on E-Bay, and
> put the original stuff back on, cause that's all it's worth to me!
>
>[/color]
the rule of thumb is to take all those mods and *subtract* it from the
value a "stock" car is worth.

before i sold my civic hatch, i took out the blaupunkt head unit and
changer, sold em on ebay and replaced it with a stock honda head unit.

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 06:10:33 +0000, SoCalMike wrote:
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> Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:[color=green]
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:15:40 +0000, Jack G wrote:
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>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:sZ5bh.14201$LH2.9090@trndny04...
>>>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:04:01 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4024366[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>> I thot my xB would be #1! But I guess #3 means it'll try even harder!!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Don
>>>> How can you ask more for a USED car than a NEW car?
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/classifieds/listings/frameset.aspx?page=basicsearch&search=basic&zip=05301&make=Scion&model=tC&cpo=false[/url]
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Scion&model=tC#used[/url]
>>>>
>>> Happens all the time in the MINI world - people load them up with
>>> aftermarket stuff and then expect to get their money back - except for the
>>> JCW works package it doesn't work out very well.
>>>
>>> Jack G.[/color]
>>
>>
>> LOL! I was a Used Car Salesman! "Does it have 4 tires? Does it have an
>> exhaust? Does it have a radio?"
>>
>> UCD's don't care WHAT 'extras' you put on a car. Is it a car and somewhat
>> near what the factory made? Good. Here's your NADA price!
>>
>> Some guys would get mad. Oh, well. No one TOLD you to put $15,000 worth of
>> aftermarket accessories on it! Take them off and sell them on E-Bay, and
>> put the original stuff back on, cause that's all it's worth to me!
>>
>>[/color]
> the rule of thumb is to take all those mods and *subtract* it from the
> value a "stock" car is worth.
>
> before i sold my civic hatch, i took out the blaupunkt head unit and
> changer, sold em on ebay and replaced it with a stock honda head unit.[/color]


Yeah. For some reason, all are in agreement that the Stock radio is worth
more than ANY aftermarket unit! I used to just discard or give away my
stock radios, but now I keep them, for this reason and for the reason I
buy decent radios and want them BACK when I trade the car!