OT: Sharia law is spreading as authority wanes

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dbu, wrote:[color=blue]
> <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQMFS[/url]
> FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
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Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
pottage for you.

Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
--Gen. xxv.

In article <1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
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> dbu, wrote:[color=green]
> > <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQMFS[/url]
> > FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
> > --[/color]
>
> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
> pottage for you.
>
> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
> --Gen. xxv.[/color]

wats-a-matter cant ya open em?
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:13:06 -0600, " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com>
wrote:
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>In article <1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> dbu, wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQMFS[/url]
>> > FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
>> > --[/color]
>>
>> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
>> pottage for you.
>>
>> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
>> --Gen. xxv.[/color]
>
>wats-a-matter cant ya open em?[/color]

Not without a lot of hassle...

You have to cut and paste the second line....


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Scott in Florida

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:13:06 -0600, " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com>
wrote:
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>In article <1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> dbu, wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQMFS[/url]
>> > FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
>> > --[/color]
>>
>> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
>> pottage for you.
>>
>> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
>> --Gen. xxv.[/color]
>
>wats-a-matter cant ya open em?[/color]

Here it is for people like me that have to paste the second line into
my browser...


Sharia law is spreading as authority wanes
By Joshua Rozenberg, Legal Editor
Last Updated: 2:03am GMT 29/11/2006



Islamic sharia law is gaining an increasing foothold in parts of
Britain, a report claims.

Sharia, derived from several sources including the Koran, is applied
to varying degrees in predominantly Muslim countries but it has no
binding status in Britain.


The Koran is one of the sources that Sharia derives from


However, the BBC Radio 4 programme Law in Action produced evidence
yesterday that it was being used by some Muslims as an alternative to
English criminal law. Aydarus Yusuf, 29, a youth worker from Somalia,
recalled a stabbing case that was decided by an unofficial Somali
"court" sitting in Woolwich, south-east London.

Mr Yusuf said a group of Somali youths were arrested on suspicion of
stabbing another Somali teenager. The victim's family told the police
it would be settled out of court and the suspects were released on
bail.

A hearing was convened and elders ordered the assailants to compensate
their victim. "All their uncles and their fathers were there," said Mr
Yusuf. "So they all put something towards that and apologised for the
wrongdoing."

Although Scotland Yard had no information about that case yesterday, a
spokesman said it was common for the police not to proceed with
assault cases if the victims decided not to press charges.

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However, the spokesman said cases of domestic violence, including
rape, might go to trial regardless of the victim's wishes.

Mr Yusuf told the programme he felt more bound by the traditional law
of his birth than by the laws of his adopted country. "Us Somalis,
wherever we are in the world, we have our own law," he said. "It's not
sharia, it's not religious — it's just a cultural thing."

Sharia's great strength was the effectiveness of its penalties, he
said. Those who appeared before religious courts would avoid
re-offending so as not to bring shame on their families.

Some lawyers welcomed the advance of what has become known as "legal
pluralism".

Dr Prakash Shah, a senior lecturer in law at Queen Mary University of
London, said such tribunals "could be more effective than the formal
legal system".

In his book Islam in Britain, Patrick Sookhdeo, director of the
Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity, says there is an
"alternative parallel unofficial legal system" that operates in the
Muslim community on a voluntary basis.

"Sharia courts now operate in most larger cities, with different
sectarian and ethnic groups operating their own courts that cater to
their specific needs according to their traditions," he says. These
are based on sharia councils, set up in Britain to help Muslims solve
family and personal problems.

Sharia councils may grant divorces under religious law to a woman
whose husband refuses to complete a civil divorce by declaring his
marriage over. There is evidence that these councils are evolving into
courts of arbitration.

Faizul Aqtab Siddiqi, a barrister and principal of Hijaz College
Islamic University, near Nuneaton, Warwicks, said this type of court
had advantages for Muslims. "It operates on a low budget, it operates
on very small timescales and the process and the laws of evidence are
far more lenient and it's less awesome an environment than the English
courts," he said.

Mr Siddiqi predicted that there would be a formal network of Muslim
courts within a decade.

"I was speaking to a police officer who said we no longer have the
bobby on the beat who will give somebody a slap on the wrist.

"So I think there is a case to be made under which the elders sit
together and reprimand people, trying to get them to change."


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Scott in Florida

Scott in Florida, 11/29/2006, 9:26:50 AM,
<b36rm29oo8usj113l5gnqa6sj4aqmlgveo@4ax.com> wrote:
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> Sharia's great strength was the effectiveness of its penalties, he
> said. Those who appeared before religious courts would avoid
> re-offending so as not to bring shame on their families.[/color]

The way the extremist liberal ACLU has watered down the intent of laws
maybe we should look into this to stop what is going on in this country
!!!

In article <rs5rm2ljbh301hd2h9rke9hurcbp4efht0@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:13:06 -0600, " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >In article <1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> dbu, wrote:
> >> > <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQM[/url]
> >> > FS
> >> > FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
> >> > --
> >>
> >> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
> >> pottage for you.
> >>
> >> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
> >> --Gen. xxv.[/color]
> >
> >wats-a-matter cant ya open em?[/color]
>
> Not without a lot of hassle...
>
> You have to cut and paste the second line....[/color]

You shouldn't have to. It was properly bracketed and on my NR it comes
up clickable, the whole thing. I'll use tiny, but some don't like that
either.
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In article <xn0euahdwk42w0d000@news.readfreenews.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Scott in Florida, 11/29/2006, 9:26:50 AM,
> <b36rm29oo8usj113l5gnqa6sj4aqmlgveo@4ax.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Sharia's great strength was the effectiveness of its penalties, he
> > said. Those who appeared before religious courts would avoid
> > re-offending so as not to bring shame on their families.[/color]
>
> The way the extremist liberal ACLU has watered down the intent of laws
> maybe we should look into this to stop what is going on in this country
> !!![/color]

Islam is growing thoughout the world, this is a mere example of it's
spread. Remember the movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Well it's
happening.
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:39:42 -0600, " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com>
wrote:
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>In article <rs5rm2ljbh301hd2h9rke9hurcbp4efht0@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:13:06 -0600, " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >In article <1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
>> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> dbu, wrote:
>> >> > <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQM[/url]
>> >> > FS
>> >> > FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
>> >> > --
>> >>
>> >> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
>> >> pottage for you.
>> >>
>> >> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
>> >> --Gen. xxv.
>> >
>> >wats-a-matter cant ya open em?[/color]
>>
>> Not without a lot of hassle...
>>
>> You have to cut and paste the second line....[/color]
>
>You shouldn't have to. It was properly bracketed and on my NR it comes
>up clickable, the whole thing. I'll use tiny, but some don't like that
>either.[/color]

You could put both in.

When I click on your posts with 'Agent' it breaks the link at my
specified line length of 72 (I think).

Not a big deal, but these dims need all the help they can get...LOL


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Scott in Florida

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> Mr Yusuf told the programme he felt more bound by the traditional law
> of his birth than by the laws of his adopted country. "Us Somalis,
> wherever we are in the world, we have our own law," he said. "It's not
> sharia, it's not religious - it's just a cultural thing."
>[/color]

If the Brits had any sense, they'd bring the miscreants to justice in their
own court
system, and tell the sharia devotees, "Us British, in our own country, we
have our
own law.......it's not sharia, it's not religious, it's just a British
thing"...and
deport these folks forthwith.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164805426.897484.87130@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> dbu, wrote:[color=green]
>> <[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Y3UZA1RZGTHK5QFIQMFS[/url]
>> FGGAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml>
>> --[/color]
>
> Give a synopsis and stop posting these 120 character wide links. No
> pottage for you.
>[/color]

Stuff it! The links work just fine in my OUTLOOK EXPRESS. Ditch your
Mac/Linux crap.

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> Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils.
> --Gen. xxv.
>[/color]