Re: what is the spark plug order on a 91 toyota corolla

"J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=blue]
> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>
> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
> evident.
>
> thanks
>[/color]
As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left to
right, are 1,2,3, and 4.

If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect. The
correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=green]
>> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>>
>> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
>> evident.
>>
>> thanks
>>[/color]
> As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left
> to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>
> If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
> The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just double
checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and the
car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine but
bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.

Something is wrong but I don't think its the wiring order

thanks

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:03:49 GMT, "J" <J@j.net> wrote:
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>
>"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=darkred]
>>> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>>>
>>> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
>>> evident.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>[/color]
>> As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left
>> to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>>
>> If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
>> The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
>I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just double
>checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and the
>car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine but
>bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
>
>Something is wrong but I don't think its the wiring order
>
>thanks
>[/color]

I just went out and looked at my '92 Corolla.

You probably have the wires crossed at the distributor.

They are NOT in order. They are in the firing order.


--

Scott in Florida

"J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:puEdh.1265$4p2.1238@trndny07...[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=darkred]
>>> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>>>
>>> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
>>> evident.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>[/color]
>> As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left
>> to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>>
>> If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
>> The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
> double checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new
> cap and the car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car
> idles fine but bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
>
> Something is wrong but I don't think its the wiring order
>
> thanks[/color]


That's why I've always either numbered my wires with tape or a marker or I
just did them one at a time.

"J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:puEdh.1265$4p2.1238@trndny07...[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=darkred]
>>> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>>>
>>> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
>>> evident.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>[/color]
>> As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left
>> to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>>
>> If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
>> The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
> double checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new
> cap and the car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car
> idles fine but bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
>
> Something is wrong but I don't think its the wiring order
>
> thanks[/color]

I'll tell you what is wrong: 1-2-3-4 is NOT the correct firing order.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

J wrote:[color=blue]
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
> >
> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...[color=darkred]
> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
> >>
> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
> >> evident.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>[/color]
> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from left
> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
> >
> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
> > --
> >
> > Ray O
> > (correct punctuation to reply)
> >[/color]
>
> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just double
> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and the
> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine but
> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.[/color]

Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
are of different lengths.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> J wrote:[color=green]
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...
>> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>> >>
>> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
>> >> evident.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from
>> > left
>> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>> >
>> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
>> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ray O
>> > (correct punctuation to reply)
>> >[/color]
>>
>> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
>> double
>> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and
>> the
>> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine but
>> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.[/color]
>
> Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
> wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
> hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
> are of different lengths.
>[/color]

No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165457553.493564.11970@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > J wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> >> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >
> >> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...
> >> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's not
> >> >> evident.
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >>
> >> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from
> >> > left
> >> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
> >> >
> >> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is incorrect.
> >> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Ray O
> >> > (correct punctuation to reply)
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
> >> double
> >> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and
> >> the
> >> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine but
> >> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.[/color]
> >
> > Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
> > wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
> > hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
> > are of different lengths.
> >[/color]
>
> No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
> 1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.[/color]

I had a problem like this with my old V8 Ford Torino.. That's why I
said the above. In the end believe it or not we got everything hooked
up correctly by following the length of the spark plug wires. Of
course we doublechecked ourselves with the shop manual later in the day
when we found it under the hood, which was laying in the back yard
about 20 ft away.

[color=blue]
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165457553.493564.11970@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > J wrote:
>> >> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>> >> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...
>> >> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> evident.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from
>> >> > left
>> >> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is
>> >> > incorrect.
>> >> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Ray O
>> >> > (correct punctuation to reply)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
>> >> double
>> >> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap
>> >> and
>> >> the
>> >> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine
>> >> but
>> >> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
>> >
>> > Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
>> > wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
>> > hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
>> > are of different lengths.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
>> 1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.[/color]
>
> I had a problem like this with my old V8 Ford Torino.. That's why I
> said the above. In the end believe it or not we got everything hooked
> up correctly by following the length of the spark plug wires. Of
> course we doublechecked ourselves with the shop manual later in the day
> when we found it under the hood, which was laying in the back yard
> about 20 ft away.
>
>[color=green]
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>[/color]

It is definitely a lot easier to put something back together correctly if
you take a good look before you take it apart. It also helps if you have
at least a basic understanding of how the item you are taking apart works.
I learned this lesson when I was around 11 or 12 and attempted to improve
the starting characteristics of our Lawn Boy lawnmower by taking apart the
carburetor. Who woulda thunk that sucker had so many pieces! My dad is not
very patient and wanted the lawn mowed so he put it back together that
evening, so I only got one day's reprieve from having to mow the lawn. I
learned a couple of things that day - 1) take a good look before you take
something apart, and 2) that Lawn Boy ran terrible even when it was at its
best.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165470532.839883.155940@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1165457553.493564.11970@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > J wrote:
> >> >> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> >> >> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...
> >> >> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> evident.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from
> >> >> > left
> >> >> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is
> >> >> > incorrect.
> >> >> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ray O
> >> >> > (correct punctuation to reply)
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
> >> >> double
> >> >> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap
> >> >> and
> >> >> the
> >> >> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine
> >> >> but
> >> >> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
> >> >
> >> > Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
> >> > wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
> >> > hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
> >> > are of different lengths.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
> >> 1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.[/color]
> >
> > I had a problem like this with my old V8 Ford Torino.. That's why I
> > said the above. In the end believe it or not we got everything hooked
> > up correctly by following the length of the spark plug wires. Of
> > course we doublechecked ourselves with the shop manual later in the day
> > when we found it under the hood, which was laying in the back yard
> > about 20 ft away.
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
> >[/color]
>
> It is definitely a lot easier to put something back together correctly if
> you take a good look before you take it apart. It also helps if you have
> at least a basic understanding of how the item you are taking apart works.
> I learned this lesson when I was around 11 or 12 and attempted to improve
> the starting characteristics of our Lawn Boy lawnmower by taking apart the
> carburetor. Who woulda thunk that sucker had so many pieces! My dad is not
> very patient and wanted the lawn mowed so he put it back together that
> evening, so I only got one day's reprieve from having to mow the lawn. I
> learned a couple of things that day - 1) take a good look before you take
> something apart, and 2) that Lawn Boy ran terrible even when it was at its
> best.[/color]

I think I still have a couple of screws floating around from the moped
engine I disassembled when I was around that age. I still couldn't put
that confounded thing back together.

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:25d5$4577b238$47c2b532$2570@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
> It is definitely a lot easier to put something back together correctly if
> you take a good look before you take it apart.[/color]

Digital Camera.

The advent of my using this thing while taking stuff apart has positively
saved my buttocks countless times already.
Tomes

"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:25d5$4577b238$47c2b532$2570@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>> It is definitely a lot easier to put something back together correctly if
>> you take a good look before you take it apart.[/color]
>
> Digital Camera.
>
> The advent of my using this thing while taking stuff apart has positively
> saved my buttocks countless times already.
> Tomes[/color]
Great idea!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:

<edit />
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > J wrote:[/color][/color][/color]

<gobble />
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
> >> >> double
> >> >> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap
> >> >> and
> >> >> the
> >> >> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine
> >> >> but
> >> >> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.
> >> >[/color][/color][/color]

<smarf />
[color=blue]
> It is definitely a lot easier to put something back together correctly if
> you take a good look before you take it apart.[/color]

Yes but that makes the whole process so... mechanical. Where is the
fun in that?

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165457553.493564.11970@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>> J wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>>> news:f33fa$4576fd7a$44a4a10d$27032@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>>> >
>>> > "J" <J@j.net> wrote in message news:doCdh.1064$4p2.424@trndny07...
>>> >> It's from left to right 1,2,3,4 correct?
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm speaking of the plug wire order from the dist cap in case it's
>>> >> not
>>> >> evident.
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks
>>> >>
>>> > As you are facing the engine compartment, the cylinder numbers, from
>>> > left
>>> > to right, are 1,2,3, and 4.
>>> >
>>> > If you are talking about ignition firing order, then that is
>>> > incorrect.
>>> > The correct firing order will be 1-3-4-2 or possible 1-2-4-3.
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Ray O
>>> > (correct punctuation to reply)
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'm hooking up the spark plug wires from a new dist cap and I'm just
>>> double
>>> checking the order as 1,2,3,4 left to right. I installed the new cap and
>>> the
>>> car won't fire at all and I put the old cap on and the car idles fine
>>> but
>>> bucks wildly and will stall out if I attempt to drive it.[/color]
>>
>> Did you have to force the wires on (I mean, stretch them, etc). The
>> wires should fit snug and with little effort if you have them all
>> hooked up correctly. Without seeing it I'd imagine all of the wires
>> are of different lengths.
>>[/color]
>
> No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
> 1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.[/color]

I have a commodore with a buick based V6 in it that has a 6-1-2-3-4-5 firing
order, i'm sure somewhere in the the world is a 1-2-3-4 firing order.
[color=blue]
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

"Nicholas Bourne" <nbourne@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>[/color]
<snipped>[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> No self-respecting engineer would design an engine with a firing order of
>> 1-2-3-4 because the power pulses would be too uneven.[/color]
>
> I have a commodore with a buick based V6 in it that has a 6-1-2-3-4-5
> firing order, i'm sure somewhere in the the world is a 1-2-3-4 firing
> order.
>[/color]

The OP has an in-line 4 cylinder engine with cylinder numbers, from front to
back, 1,2,3,4, and the firing order is definitely NOT 1,2,3,4 for his
engine. IMO, telling him that it could be 1,2,3,4 because it may be that
somewhere in the world is not useful advice and is likely to reinforce his
notion that 1,2,3,4 is the correct firing order when in fact it is
definitely wrong.

In the case of an engine with 2 banks like a V or horizontally opposed
configuration, there is more than 1 way to number cylinders. For example on
a V6 engine, one configuration is to have cylinders 1,2, and 3 on one bank
and 4, 5, and 6 on the opposite bank; and another configuration is to have
1, 3, and 5 on one bank and 2, 4, and 6 on the opposite bank. Obviously,
cylinder number designation is a big factor in determining firing order.

Engineers determine firing order by trying to smooth out, or balance the
power strokes with the other 3 strokes of a 4 cycle engine. If the firing
sequence had adjacent cylinders on the same bank firing, the engine would be
unbalanced. In the case of the Buick engine you cited, note that the firing
order sequence is even-odd numbered cylinders, suggesting that the cylinder
numbering sequence is odd on one bank and even on the opposite bank. The
firing sequence does not have adjacent cylinders on the same bank firing.
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Ray O
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