my firs gear slips!!

helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of a suden,
when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops out of gear.
and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i dont know much about
the topic.

what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??

<porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4?[/color]

Gears are always meshed, so no, unless there's slop in the shift
linkage/cables, such that its not fully selecting 1st.

Won't be stripped either: you'd hear it if it was, and the truck wouldn't
move. More likely its time to rebuild the trans with new bearings and
synchro cones/hubs as needed.

SD

Stewart DIBBS wrote:[color=blue]
> <porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> > helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> > in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4?[/color]
>
> Gears are always meshed, so no, unless there's slop in the shift
> linkage/cables, such that its not fully selecting 1st.
>
> Won't be stripped either: you'd hear it if it was, and the truck wouldn't
> move. More likely its time to rebuild the trans with new bearings and
> synchro cones/hubs as needed.
>
> SD[/color]

to get the truck to start off i have to hold the shifter forward in to
first. but it still some times pushes my hand back and grinds. i try
not to let it do this but some tmes there is no stoping it!

<porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of a suden,
> when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops out of gear.
> and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i dont know much about
> the topic.
>
> what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
>[/color]

There are 2 possible causes: 1) the bushings for the shifter are worn (this
is not difficult to repair if you can get parts) or 2) the crankcase thrust
washers have fallen out. With the engine stopped, grab the lower crankshaft
pulley and see if there is fore-aft play. The fix for this is a new engine.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

[email]porter_pody_69@hotmail.com[/email] wrote in
news:1165542492.192403.187430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
[color=blue]
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> <porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the
>> > gears in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of
>> > a suden, when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops
>> > out of gear. and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i
>> > dont know much about the topic.
>> >
>> > what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
>> >[/color]
>>
>> There are 2 possible causes: 1) the bushings for the shifter are
>> worn (this is not difficult to repair if you can get parts) or 2) the
>> crankcase thrust washers have fallen out. With the engine stopped,
>> grab the lower crankshaft pulley and see if there is fore-aft play.
>> The fix for this is a new engine. --
>>[/color]
>
>
> it couldent be the crank shaft or any thing to do with the engine
> becaus it is only in firs gear that it hapens. all the others wok
> fine.
>
>[/color]



They "wok" fine, huh? I used to like to "wok" my dog, but then PETA got on
my case, so I had to stop.

Leaving aside your terrible English (is it your native language?), you most
probably have one of three issues:
1) worn dog teeth, and/or
2) low fluid level, and/or
3) worn engine mounts.

If your diagnostics skills are as poor as your writing, perhaps you should
visit your local Toyota dealer and have them sort the matter out.

--
Tegger

Tegger wrote:[color=blue]
> [email]porter_pody_69@hotmail.com[/email] wrote in
> news:1165542492.192403.187430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:
>[color=green]
> >
> > Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> <porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the
> >> > gears in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of
> >> > a suden, when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops
> >> > out of gear. and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i
> >> > dont know much about the topic.
> >> >
> >> > what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
> >> >
> >>
> >> There are 2 possible causes: 1) the bushings for the shifter are
> >> worn (this is not difficult to repair if you can get parts) or 2) the
> >> crankcase thrust washers have fallen out. With the engine stopped,
> >> grab the lower crankshaft pulley and see if there is fore-aft play.
> >> The fix for this is a new engine. --
> >>[/color]
> >
> >
> > it couldent be the crank shaft or any thing to do with the engine
> > becaus it is only in firs gear that it hapens. all the others wok
> > fine.
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>
> They "wok" fine, huh? I used to like to "wok" my dog, but then PETA got on
> my case, so I had to stop.
>
> Leaving aside your terrible English (is it your native language?), you most
> probably have one of three issues:
> 1) worn dog teeth, and/or
> 2) low fluid level, and/or
> 3) worn engine mounts.
>
> If your diagnostics skills are as poor as your writing, perhaps you should
> visit your local Toyota dealer and have them sort the matter out.
>
> --
> Tegger[/color]

sory about the spelling and gramer. but english is my native langage, i
an dislexic so my writing is bad. i acualy do a lot of wor on cars but
i have never mesed with any trenys.

[email]porter_pody_69@hotmail.com[/email] wrote in
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>
> Tegger wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> If your diagnostics skills are as poor as your writing, perhaps you
>> should visit your local Toyota dealer and have them sort the matter
>> out.
>>[/color]
>
>
> sory about the spelling and gramer. but english is my native langage,
> i an dislexic[/color]



Hoooo-kay...

I'm gone. No more goodies from me.


--
Tegger

Stewart DIBBS wrote:[color=blue]
> <porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> > helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> > in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4?[/color]
>
> Gears are always meshed, so no, unless there's slop in the shift
> linkage/cables, such that its not fully selecting 1st.
>
> Won't be stripped either: you'd hear it if it was, and the truck wouldn't
> move. More likely its time to rebuild the trans with new bearings and
> synchro cones/hubs as needed.
>
> SD[/color]

to get the truck to start off i have to hold the shifter forward in to
first. but it still some times pushes my hand back and grinds. i try
not to let it do this but some tmes there is no stoping it!

<porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165542492.192403.187430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> <porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
>> > in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of a suden,
>> > when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops out of gear.
>> > and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i dont know much about
>> > the topic.
>> >
>> > what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
>> >[/color]
>>
>> There are 2 possible causes: 1) the bushings for the shifter are worn
>> (this
>> is not difficult to repair if you can get parts) or 2) the crankcase
>> thrust
>> washers have fallen out. With the engine stopped, grab the lower
>> crankshaft
>> pulley and see if there is fore-aft play. The fix for this is a new
>> engine.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
> it couldent be the crank shaft or any thing to do with the engine
> becaus it is only in firs gear that it hapens. all the others wok fine.
>[/color]

If you do not like my hints, then follow TeGGeR's.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Take it to the shop.



<porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of a suden,
> when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops out of gear.
> and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i dont know much about
> the topic.
>
> what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
>[/color]

Or as simple as -

[url]http://www.4runners.org/articles/shift/[/url]

<porter_pody_69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165540488.020207.289410@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> helo i am wondering if ther is a way to adjust the meshing of the gears
> in an 84 toyota 22r 5 speed 4x4? the rason being that all of a suden,
> when i try to start off in my 20 year old truck, it pops out of gear.
> and with quite a bang to! it could be stript but i dont know much about
> the topic.
>
> what do you guys think it is and how do i fix it??
>[/color]