DuraCrap wires?

I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).

Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps to
life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a hesitation,
and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.

I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were over
..080!

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...[color=blue]
>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
>
> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps to
> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a hesitation,
> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
>
> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were over
> .080!
>
>[/color]
If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If it is
carbureted, check the choke.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...[color=green]
>>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
>> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
>>
>> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps to
>> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a hesitation,
>> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
>> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
>>
>> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
>> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were over
>> .080!
>>
>>[/color]
> If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If it
> is carbureted, check the choke.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]


Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It started
and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.

However, there is a weird noise coming from somewhere around the rear of the
engine when it's cold, and it sounds like a bearing on the camshaft is
galling... :(

I hate this cold weather, we were all the way down to something like 57
this morning. :-)


Hachirokuãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク wrote:[color=blue]
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:444e1$4578e04f$47c2b532$24263@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
> >
> > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> > news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...[color=darkred]
> >>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
> >> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
> >>
> >> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumpsto
> >> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a hesitation,
> >> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
> >> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
> >>
> >> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
> >> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were over
> >> .080!
> >>
> >>[/color]
> > If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If it
> > is carbureted, check the choke.
> > --
> >
> > Ray O
> > (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
>
> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It started
> and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.
>
> However, there is a weird noise coming from somewhere around the rear of the
> engine when it's cold, and it sounds like a bearing on the camshaft is
> galling... :([/color]

"Hachiroku????" <Trueno@ae_86.gts> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:444e1$4578e04f$47c2b532$24263@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...[color=darkred]
>>>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
>>> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
>>>
>>> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps
>>> to
>>> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a
>>> hesitation,
>>> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
>>> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
>>> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were
>>> over
>>> .080!
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If it
>> is carbureted, check the choke.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
>
> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It
> started and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.[/color]

That suggests a cold start enrichment problem. If fuel-injected, check the
coolant temp sender and whatever the engine uses for enrichment, either a
cold start injector, cold start timer.
[color=blue]
>
> However, there is a weird noise coming from somewhere around the rear of
> the engine when it's cold, and it sounds like a bearing on the camshaft is
> galling... :([/color]

Try thinner oil.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:42:08 -0600, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku????" <Trueno@ae_86.gts> wrote in message
> news:QBeeh.6747$H22.4080@trndny09...[color=green]
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>> news:444e1$4578e04f$47c2b532$24263@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...
>>>>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
>>>> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
>>>>
>>>> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps
>>>> to
>>>> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a
>>>> hesitation,
>>>> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and ran
>>>> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The manual
>>>> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were
>>>> over
>>>> .080!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If it
>>> is carbureted, check the choke.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>>
>>
>> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It
>> started and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.[/color]
>
> That suggests a cold start enrichment problem. If fuel-injected, check the
> coolant temp sender and whatever the engine uses for enrichment, either a
> cold start injector, cold start timer.
>[color=green]
>>
>> However, there is a weird noise coming from somewhere around the rear of
>> the engine when it's cold, and it sounds like a bearing on the camshaft is
>> galling... :([/color]
>
> Try thinner oil.[/color]


I use 3 1/2 quarts Castrol 10W30, and 1 Qt Marvel Mystery oil...

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:38:25 -0800, Mark wrote:
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>
> I hate this cold weather, we were all the way down to something like 57
> this morning. :-)[/color]


Up your WHAT, you say??? ;)

Actually, today was the first COLD day we've had. Shoot! LAST Thursday it
was 63 degrees!

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:42:08 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku????" <Trueno@ae_86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:QBeeh.6747$H22.4080@trndny09...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>>> news:444e1$4578e04f$47c2b532$24263@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:EQ3eh.2355$g_3.817@trndny02...
>>>>>I did the plugs and wires on the Mazda today. I used NipponDenso plugs,
>>>>> but cheaped out on the wires and went with Duralast (AutoZone).
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting the car previously has been turning the key and the car jumps
>>>>> to
>>>>> life. After replacing, turning the key resulted in a bit of a
>>>>> hesitation,
>>>>> and a second or two of rough idling. After that it smoothed out and
>>>>> ran
>>>>> well, and started well on subesquent turns of the key.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised the car was running at all prior to the change. The
>>>>> manual
>>>>> called for a gap of .030-.033, and the plugs that were in there were
>>>>> over
>>>>> .080!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If the car is fuel injected, check the coolant temperature sensor. If
>>>> it
>>>> is carbureted, check the choke.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>
>>>
>>> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It
>>> started and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran
>>> great.[/color]
>>
>> That suggests a cold start enrichment problem. If fuel-injected, check
>> the
>> coolant temp sender and whatever the engine uses for enrichment, either a
>> cold start injector, cold start timer.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> However, there is a weird noise coming from somewhere around the rear of
>>> the engine when it's cold, and it sounds like a bearing on the camshaft
>>> is
>>> galling... :([/color]
>>
>> Try thinner oil.[/color]
>
>
> I use 3 1/2 quarts Castrol 10W30, and 1 Qt Marvel Mystery oil...[/color]

Try straight 5W-30 and see if the noise goes away.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク wrote:
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> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It
> started and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.[/color]
[color=blue]
> I use 3 1/2 quarts Castrol 10W30, and 1 Qt Marvel Mystery oil..[/color]

I read somewhere that at -20F, with 5W-30 it takes about 30 seconds
before the oil reaches the valve train, but with 10W-30 it takes two
minutes.n I've heard lifter noise during the first few seconds with
10W-30 even at 40-50F.

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message news:7Qoeh.1175$%T5.428@trndny05...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:38:25 -0800, Mark wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> I hate this cold weather, we were all the way down to something like 57
>> this morning. :-)[/color]
>
>
> Up your WHAT, you say??? ;)
>
> Actually, today was the first COLD day we've had. Shoot! LAST Thursday it
> was 63 degrees!
>[/color]


Brrrrrr!

It's red flag fire condition weather here.

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:08:27 -0800, larry moe 'n curly wrote:
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>
> Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Started it this morning at 16 degrees with a 6 degree Wind Chill. It
>> started and quit, and the second turn of the key it started and ran great.[/color]
>[color=green]
>> I use 3 1/2 quarts Castrol 10W30, and 1 Qt Marvel Mystery oil..[/color]
>
> I read somewhere that at -20F, with 5W-30 it takes about 30 seconds
> before the oil reaches the valve train, but with 10W-30 it takes two
> minutes.n I've heard lifter noise during the first few seconds with
> 10W-30 even at 40-50F.[/color]


I WISH it were Lifter noise!!! This is more like a screeching!!