OT: Traditonal Values Restored

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> When I was a kid, a BJ was sex, but it was a perversion. Now it's not
> even sex and it's OK, thanks to Bill Clinton. Thanks, Bill, for teaching
> our kids to be sick and twisted and accept it as normal.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

Are you saying that oral sex is sick and twisted?

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0euxja03atkr000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> dizzy, 12/13/2006,10:37:02 PM, wrote:
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>>> n5hsr wrote:
>>>
>>> > Then there are the people that claim to be Christian but don't
>>> > believe the Bible or what Jesus said. That's an oxymoron if ever
>>> > there was one.
>>>
>>> Depends what you mean by "believe the Bible". Today, only the
>>> willfully ignorant could take all of it literally. Being a "good
>>> Christian" means being a good person, not some fool who claims to
>>> believe the Adam and Eve and Noah's ark stories.[/color]
>>
>> What is being a "good person" mean to you? You can't really be a
>> Christian without accepting certain absolutes on faith alone. There is
>> also much more to the Bible than the Book of Genesis. The Old
>> Testament prepared us for the coming of the Messiah (Jesus) as much as
>> the New Testament prepares us for the Second Coming of the Messiah in
>> The Revelation.[/color]
>
> Jesus is either a liar, a lunatic, or Lord. Since dizziot and Little
> Richard don't accept him as Lord, I wonder what they think he is? Just a
> good man doesn't cut it on the face of the evidence. But then again, I
> think Josh McDowell covered this way better than I could.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg[/color]


You said "on the face of the evidence". What evidence?

DH, 12/14/2006, 10:29:21 AM,
<458161db$0$15472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:
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> See:
>
> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/washington/14leak.html?hp&ex=1166158[/url]
> 800&en=e86e0c8696c0929e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>
> to see what's got me cranked up today.[/color]

Considering the way the ACLU has been hampering the government's
ability to fight terrorism I find the below quote from your article
apropos:

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"John C. Eastman, a law professor at Chapman University, disagreed,
saying that the subpoena was unusual but not improper and a sign of a
moderate approach to a significant problem.

“Assuming it’s properly classified,” Professor Eastman said of the
document, “I actually think the government is bending over backwards to
accommodate the A.C.L.U. rather than pulling the trigger in prosecuting
them.”
-------------

The ACLU should change their name to the AQCLU.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DH, 12/14/2006, 10:29:21 AM,
> <458161db$0$15472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:
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>> See:
>>
>> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/washington/14leak.html?hp&ex=1166158[/url]
>> 800&en=e86e0c8696c0929e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>>
>> to see what's got me cranked up today.[/color]
>
> Considering the way the ACLU has been hampering the government's
> ability to fight terrorism I find the below quote from your article
> apropos:[/color]


How is the ACLU hampering the government? Your words. No links, or cut &
paste jobs.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhcgh.7538$ya1.6190@news02.roc.ny...[color=blue]
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:UIKdndjSk-t3sBzYnZ2dnUVZ_rylnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>> When I was a kid, a BJ was sex, but it was a perversion. Now it's not
>> even sex and it's OK, thanks to Bill Clinton. Thanks, Bill, for teaching
>> our kids to be sick and twisted and accept it as normal.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
> Are you saying that oral sex is sick and twisted?[/color]

Mike Hunt is on record as having called it a form of birth control.

These guys have got to get a grip; there's nothing Clinton could add to the
national repertoire of sexual activity and dishonesty. Adultery is about a
day newer than the institution of marriage, lying about it is two minutes
newer than that and oral sex is another venerable activity; it's the
second-oldest specialty of the oldest profession.


Which recalls to mind one of the funniest bits of TV dialog ever:

"... the world's oldest profession." - Larry, with a significant look
"Shepherd?" - Balki
from "Perfect Strangers."

Still makes me laugh.



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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DH, 12/14/2006, 10:29:21 AM,
> <458161db$0$15472$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> See:
>>
>> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/washington/14leak.html?hp&ex=1166158[/url]
>> 800&en=e86e0c8696c0929e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>>
>> to see what's got me cranked up today.[/color]
>
> Considering the way the ACLU has been hampering the government's
> ability to fight terrorism I find the below quote from your article
> apropos:
>
> -------------
> "John C. Eastman, a law professor at Chapman University, disagreed,
> saying that the subpoena was unusual but not improper and a sign of a
> moderate approach to a significant problem.
>
> "Assuming it's properly classified," Professor Eastman said of the
> document, "I actually think the government is bending over backwards to
> accommodate the A.C.L.U. rather than pulling the trigger in prosecuting
> them."
> -------------[/color]

Well, damn that liberal press for digging up another point of view!
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>
> The ACLU should change their name to the AQCLU.[/color]

Not at all. Our rights are in the Constitution for a reason and they are
not to be lightly ignored or denied. We also need a transparency of
government that allows for good citizen understanding of policy and results.
They have a name for the kind of place where citizens can't get full and
accurate information about the government, where dissent is suppressed and
debate is discouraged, where information is whithheld form the people. It's
called North Korea.

It's up to us to keep an eye on the government. I believe that the Founders
expected it and would demand it.

The ACLU has done nothing to hamper the our fight against terrorism. Our
own policies hamper our fight against terrorism. I posted it elsehwere but
it's worth another look:
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/world/africa/14somalia.html?hp&ex=1166158800&en=7bcfbcaf7bbeaa90&ei=5094&partner=homepage[/url]

"I'll be honest," said Sheik Muktar Robow Abu Monsur, the deputy security
chief for the Islamists [of Somalia]. "America is the best friend of Islam.
It wakes up the sleeping Muslim."







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"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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>They have a name for the kind of place where citizens can't get full and
> accurate information about the government, where dissent is suppressed and
> debate is discouraged, where information is whithheld form the people.
> It's
> called North Korea.[/color]


Golf boy and others like him are very strange. Many of them have been around
since the 1960s, but they pretend not to remember what the Soviet Union was
like. They hint that moving toward that kind of spooky society isn't such a
bad thing, in return for some fake sense of security.

Or, they were never aware of that kind of society, which means they never
read anything or paid attention to the news. According to Jefferson, it's
our duty as citizens to make informed decisions. This means golf boy and the
other borg are not real Americans.

Get the rope.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:45817195$0$15504$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
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>>They have a name for the kind of place where citizens can't get full and
>> accurate information about the government, where dissent is suppressed
>> and
>> debate is discouraged, where information is whithheld form the people.
>> It's
>> called North Korea.[/color]
>
> Golf boy and others like him are very strange. Many of them have been
> around since the 1960s, but they pretend not to remember what the Soviet
> Union was like. They hint that moving toward that kind of spooky society
> isn't such a bad thing, in return for some fake sense of security.
>
> Or, they were never aware of that kind of society, which means they never
> read anything or paid attention to the news. According to Jefferson, it's
> our duty as citizens to make informed decisions. This means golf boy and
> the other borg are not real Americans.
>
> Get the rope.[/color]

I wouldn't say, "not real Americans," partly because I hate it when they say
such about me and mostly because we have to deal with them as our fellow
Americans (they're still going to get to vote in 2008). Rather, I'd say
they lack faith in our real strength. Paul Wellstone said something about
that - I can't remember the quote accurately - but it was to the effect that
America had both power and strength and that an invasion was a display of
our power but other things would be a display of our strength.

Unfortunately, the aspect of our strength that can be used to sustain a
foreign policy that does not depend heavily on use of force, is chipped away
by our unwise use of our power.

Badgolferman and I both lived in Iran for a time (I really should make
arrangements to meet the guy) and it amazes me that we have apparently come
away from that with completely different appreciations for what strengthens
America. Iran was run by a fairly amicable despot (way better than, say Idi
Amin or Saddam Hussein but far worse than someone like the Dalai Lama or the
Pope) who had our official support as a bulwark against Communism. However,
the people in the street - at least in my experience - nearly universally
absolutely loved us. I felt like Jesus at times because the Iranians acted
like they'd gain something if they just touched the hem of my clothing. The
experiences of my friends who have also traveled abroad are similar. That's
one of our strengths. We could harness that. But we piss it away through
arrogance and ignorance.




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DH, 12/14/2006, 2:08:33 PM,
<4581948f$0$15473$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:
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> (I really should make arrangements to meet the guy)[/color]

Check your mail, assuming your headers are not munged.

badgolferman, 12/14/2006, 2:38:43 PM,
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> DH, 12/14/2006, 2:08:33 PM,
> <4581948f$0$15473$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:
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> > (I really should make arrangements to meet the guy)[/color]
>
> Check your mail, assuming your headers are not munged.[/color]

It seems your address is not valid. Returned message.

Scott in Florida wrote:
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> On 12 Dec 2006 16:21:50 -0800, "Norm De Plume"
> <norm_de_plume@my-deja.com> wrote:
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> >Mike Hunter wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> However a females right to determine what to do with her OWN body does not
> >> apply to unborn woman.[/color]
> >
> >I don't think anything applies to unborn woman because there's never
> >been such a being.[/color]
>
> Oh? The babies you libs kill are all male?[/color]

With one exception, all unborn human babies have been boys or girls,
not men or women. That exception was Barbara Carrera:
[url]http://tinyurl.com/ye35u3[/url]

Bush? Values? Like how he raised the twins?

He does know he has children, doesn't he?

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Learning Richard, 12/12/2006,7:17:09 PM, wrote:
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>> Hey badgolferman, check the part in the BB about being correct all the
>> time. Its a killer. Better to understand than to be right, all
>> that... doesn't your sponsor tell you this shit before you come
>> posting your fear in this newsgroup???[/color]
>
> Richard, you have to try harder at trying to needle me. Besides, my
> wife is from New York, there is nothing you can say that will hurt me.
> I have grown a thick skin.[/color]

That is at least the second time I have seen you discuss your wife in that
way. OK, you think she's a bitch, we get it already!