OT: Oh Boy. Look What George Did

Here's what happens when you elect a president who just doesn't get it.

Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq
By HELENE COOPER
WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 - Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration that it
might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war against Iraq's
Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of Iraq, according to
American and Arab diplomats.



More:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13saudi.html?th&emc=th[/url]

JoeSpareBedroom, 12/13/2006,9:39:26 AM, wrote:
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> Here's what happens when you elect a president who just doesn't get
> it.
>
> Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq
> By HELENE COOPER
> WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 - Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration
> that it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war
> against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of
> Iraq, according to American and Arab diplomats.
>
>
>
> More:
>
> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13saudi.html?th&emc[/url]
> =th[/color]

This is nothing new. At least they are publicly admitting they are
abetting the enemy.

Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is my
friend" ?

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0euxgrl2ay23v000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/13/2006,9:39:26 AM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Here's what happens when you elect a president who just doesn't get
>> it.
>>
>> Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq
>> By HELENE COOPER
>> WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 - Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration
>> that it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war
>> against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of
>> Iraq, according to American and Arab diplomats.
>>
>>
>>
>> More:
>>
>> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13saudi.html?th&emc[/url]
>> =th[/color]
>
> This is nothing new. At least they are publicly admitting they are
> abetting the enemy.
>
> Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is my
> friend" ?[/color]

I agree with that last statement.

But, here's the deal: For nothing more than the cost of jet fuel and an
occasional bomb (or "bom", as your president would spell it), Iraq could've
been a nice, quiet place, kept that way by someone we didn't like.
Basically, free stability, provided by someone else. Meanwhile, we could've
roped Iran and Syria into line.

But no. A handful of impotent old men had a pathological need to start a
war, to impress their mistresses.

Alotta ***ina, 12/13/2006, 9:46:46 PM,
<Xns9898DD90659FFAlotta***ina@66.250.146.128> wrote:
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> You wrote:
>[color=green]
> > JoeSpareBedroom, 12/13/2006,9:39:26 AM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Here's what happens when you elect a president who just doesn't get
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq
> >> By HELENE COOPER
> >> WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 - Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration
> >> that it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war
> >> against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of
> >> Iraq, according to American and Arab diplomats.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> More:
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13saudi.html?th&emc[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> =th[/color]
> >
> > This is nothing new. At least they are publicly admitting they are
> > abetting the enemy.[/color]
>
> Is there a military conflict in the past 50 years that the US did NOT
> provide financial backing for? Why would you be surprised when
> another country involves itself in ONE such matter, especially one
> that's actually on its own side of the world? And keep in mind that
> I ask this as a shareholder in HAL.[/color]

I am not surprised whatsoever. I am glad they are admitting what most
people know publicly.

HAL lost me money. TM, XOM, CVX have been my best investments.

JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006, 12:44:45 AM,
<hx5gh.7530$ya1.7469@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
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> > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is
> > my friend" ?[/color]
>
> I agree with that last statement.[/color]

In this case Al-Qaeda, Iran, Syria, and terrorists are the enemy of
George W. Bush. Since I never see any messages from you condemning
those organizations I assume they are your friend then.

--
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." ~ Alexander Hamilton

"Alotta ***ina" <alotta@***ina.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9898DD90659FFAlotta***ina@66.250.146.128...[color=blue]
> You wrote:
>[color=green]
>> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/13/2006,9:39:26 AM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Here's what happens when you elect a president who just doesn't get
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq
>>> By HELENE COOPER
>>> WASHINGTON, Dec. 12 - Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration
>>> that it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war
>>> against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of
>>> Iraq, according to American and Arab diplomats.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> More:
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/world/middleeast/13saudi.html?th&emc[/url]
>>> =th[/color]
>>
>> This is nothing new. At least they are publicly admitting they are
>> abetting the enemy.[/color]
>
> Is there a military conflict in the past 50 years that the US did NOT
> provide financial backing for? Why would you be surprised when another
> country involves itself in ONE such matter, especially one that's actually
> on its own side of the world? And keep in mind that I ask this as a
> shareholder in HAL.[/color]

Yeah, so you have ONE share. Big deal.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0euyab10000001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006, 12:44:45 AM,
> <hx5gh.7530$ya1.7469@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is
>> > my friend" ?[/color]
>>
>> I agree with that last statement.[/color]
>
> In this case Al-Qaeda, Iran, Syria, and terrorists are the enemy of
> George W. Bush. Since I never see any messages from you condemning
> those organizations I assume they are your friend then.[/color]

I know you like to assume things like that. You should stop. It makes you
look silly every single day. I know it's simpler to think that way, and it
helps you relax, but it's not appropriate for a patriot. Matter of fact,
Thomas Jefferson considered it treason.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0euyab10000001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006, 12:44:45 AM,
> <hx5gh.7530$ya1.7469@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is
>> > my friend" ?[/color]
>>
>> I agree with that last statement.[/color]
>
> In this case Al-Qaeda, Iran, Syria, and terrorists are the enemy of
> George W. Bush. Since I never see any messages from you condemning
> those organizations I assume they are your friend then.
>
> --
> "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." ~ Alexander Hamilton[/color]

Not quite. Al-Qaeda, Iran, Syria, and terrorists are the enemy of America.
If JSB is an American(*), therefore, they're his enemy, too(**).

You might also look at this article:
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/14/world/africa/14somalia.html?hp&ex=1166158800&en=7bcfbcaf7bbeaa90&ei=5094&partner=homepage[/url]
which includes this quote: "I'll be honest," said Sheik Muktar Robow Abu
Monsur, the deputy security chief for the Islamists. "America is the best
friend of Islam. It wakes up the sleeping Muslim."

and find further confusion about friends and enemies and the effectiveness
of our policies.

(*) most of us who "contribute" regularly are and JSB hasn't declared
otherwise, at least not that I've noticed, which most non-Americans do at
some point.

(**) and the "enemy of my enemy..." adage is really a shorthand way of
saying that the enemy of your enemy should be evaluated for his potential
utility in defeating the common enemy; not that he's really a friend and
that you should clasp him to your bosom. One uses the enemies of your enemy
in, for example, the way that we aided the Soviet Union to keep them
fighting the Nazis. The ultimate defeat of Nazi Germany owed a lot to
several hundred thousand dead Americans but it also owed quite a bit to many
more dead Soviets. We certainly hoped to find the Soviet Union a permanent
friend after the war but we put Edward Teller to work on the H-bomb, anyway,
just in case.



--
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badgolferman wrote:
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006, 12:44:45 AM,
> <hx5gh.7530$ya1.7469@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is
> > > my friend" ?[/color]
> >
> > I agree with that last statement.[/color]
>
> In this case Al-Qaeda, Iran, Syria, and terrorists are the enemy of
> George W. Bush. Since I never see any messages from you condemning
> those organizations I assume they are your friend then.[/color]

Since I never see any messages from you condemning slavery or the
stomping of cute baby rabbits, I assume that you are in favor of those
practices.

badgolferman wrote:
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> Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is my
> friend" ?[/color]

Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations does.

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1166133994.548429.161750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> badgolferman wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy is my
>> friend" ?[/color]
>
> Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations does.
>[/color]

Wait till golf boy sees my next prediction come true. Libya will be helping
us apply leverage to various uncooperative parties in the Middle East.

JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006,6:16:30 PM, wrote:
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> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1166133994.548429.161750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy
> > > is my friend" ?[/color]
> >
> > Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations
> > does.
> >[/color]
>
> Wait till golf boy sees my next prediction come true. Libya will be
> helping us apply leverage to various uncooperative parties in the
> Middle East.[/color]

Why do you care whether I see your predictions? Are you trying to
impress me? I'm not your type.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006,6:16:30 PM, wrote:
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>> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166133994.548429.161750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > badgolferman wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy
>> > > is my friend" ?
>> >
>> > Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations
>> > does.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Wait till golf boy sees my next prediction come true. Libya will be
>> helping us apply leverage to various uncooperative parties in the
>> Middle East.[/color]
>
> Why do you care whether I see your predictions? Are you trying to
> impress me? I'm not your type.[/color]


No. I'm leading you into the next of your 42,000 Waterloo experiences.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006,6:16:30 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166133994.548429.161750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > badgolferman wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy
>> > > is my friend" ?
>> >
>> > Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations
>> > does.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Wait till golf boy sees my next prediction come true. Libya will be
>> helping us apply leverage to various uncooperative parties in the
>> Middle East.[/color]
>
> Why do you care whether I see your predictions? Are you trying to
> impress me? I'm not your type.[/color]


To put it another way, you seem to think that waving the flag somehow
justifies your ostrich-like ignorance. My response is this: Stay the hell
away from your grandchildren.

JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006, 9:14:28 PM,
<8yngh.7580$ya1.7246@news02.roc.ny> wrote:
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> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0euys8k1b1so4001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
> > JoeSpareBedroom, 12/14/2006,6:16:30 PM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166133994.548429.161750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> >>> badgolferman wrote:
> > > >
> >>> > Tell me Joe, do you agree with the adage "The enemy of my enemy
> >>> > is my friend" ?
> > > >
> >>> Anybody who's not naively foolish about international relations
> >>> does.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wait till golf boy sees my next prediction come true. Libya will
> > > be helping us apply leverage to various uncooperative parties in
> > > the Middle East.[/color]
> >
> > Why do you care whether I see your predictions? Are you trying to
> > impress me? I'm not your type.[/color]
>
>
> To put it another way, you seem to think that waving the flag somehow
> justifies your ostrich-like ignorance. My response is this: Stay the
> hell away from your grandchildren.[/color]

If people like you take over the leadership of this country for any
significant period of time my children may not live long enough to have
grandchildren.