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Old 01-03-2007, 06:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

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Old 01-03-2007, 06:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
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> [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url][/color]

What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?
 
Old 01-03-2007, 06:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
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> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> > [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url][/color]
>
> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?[/color]

I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour
on a major freeway.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
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> In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url][/color]
>>
>> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?[/color]
>
> I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour on
> a major freeway.[/color]


I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.

 
Old 01-03-2007, 10:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <MTOmh.14830$5q6.12133@trndny02>,
Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
>[color=green]
> > In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
> >>
> >> > [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url]
> >>
> >> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?[/color]
> >
> > I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour on
> > a major freeway.[/color]
>
>
> I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.[/color]

What if you have a bottle of your favorite booze while driving and get
youself drunk.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url]
>>> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?[/color]
>> I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour on
>> a major freeway.[/color]
>
>
> I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
>[/color]

It said that if it detected erratic steering patterns it would just slow
to a complete stop... wherever you are. (Whatever you do... don't try to
dodge that deer in your headlights :D)

Dante
 
Old 01-03-2007, 03:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 09:31:25 -0600, dbu, wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <MTOmh.14830$5q6.12133@trndny02>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
>> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url]
>> >>
>> >> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?
>> >
>> > I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour on
>> > a major freeway.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.[/color]
>
> What if you have a bottle of your favorite booze while driving and get
> youself drunk.[/color]

I think all bets are off. I don't know if the system actually monitors
your BAL while driving, or just disables the ignition until you 'pass the
test'.

All the systems I've seen like this enable the ignition after sampling
your breath.
 
Old 01-03-2007, 11:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:MTOmh.14830$5q6.12133@trndny02...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>> > [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url]
>>>
>>> What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?[/color]
>>
>> I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of rush hour
>> on
>> a major freeway.[/color]
>
>
> I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
>[/color]

Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.



 
Old 01-04-2007, 06:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

sharx35, 1/3/2007,11:05:09 PM, wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:MTOmh.14830$5q6.12133@trndny02...[color=green]
> > On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:59:40 -0600, dbu, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > In article <xn0f0risvaglaik000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> >> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> >>> dbu,, 1/3/2007,6:15:27 AM, wrote:
> > > >
> >>>> [url]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/02/D8MDILP82.html[/url]
> > > >
> > > > What if people don't want to buy that feature in a vehicle?
> > >
> > > I'd be leary of it myself. What if it fails in the middle of
> > > rush hour on a major freeway.[/color]
> >
> >
> > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
> >[/color]
>
> Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.[/color]

Gloves.
 
Old 01-04-2007, 07:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Toyota Developing Drunken Driving System

In article <1167911607snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk>,
[email]ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk[/email] (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <xn0f0sxdhbw171d000@news.readfreenews.net>
> [email]REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com[/email] "badgolferman" writes:
>[color=green]
> > sharx35, 1/3/2007,11:05:09 PM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> > > news:MTOmh.14830$5q6.12133@trndny02...
> > >
> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
> > >
> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.[/color]
> >
> > Gloves.[/color]
>
> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
>
> [Leith = town in Scotland][/color]

How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak into a
tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.

This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if you
pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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" dbu,"
(Andrew Stephenson) wrote:

"badgolferman" writes:
sharx35:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> > > "Hachiroku ????" ...
>> > >
>> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
>> > >
>> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.
>> >
>> > Gloves.[/color]
>>
>> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
>> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
>>
>> [Leith = town in Scotland][/color]
>
> How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak into a
> tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.
>
> This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if you
> pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
> --
>[/color]

I'm pretty sure I saw something on the news about something precisely like
that. Sounds technically very problematic to me.

Natalie


 
Old 01-04-2007, 06:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In article <enjh6l.3ss.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu,"
> (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
>
> "badgolferman" writes:
> sharx35:[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >
> >> > > "Hachiroku ????" ...
> >> > >
> >> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.
> >> >
> >> > Gloves.
> >>
> >> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
> >> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
> >>
> >> [Leith = town in Scotland][/color]
> >
> > How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak into a
> > tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.
> >
> > This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if you
> > pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> I'm pretty sure I saw something on the news about something precisely like
> that. Sounds technically very problematic to me.
>
> Natalie[/color]

I was sort of trying to be funny, but the idea of please exagerated is
to get breath air into the tube for sampling. I doubt any system like
that will see the light of day, but then again who knows.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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" dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
news:repubs-9D3925.17403704012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <enjh6l.3ss.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> " dbu,"
>> (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
>>
>> "badgolferman" writes:
>> sharx35:[color=darkred]
>> >> >
>> >> > > "Hachiroku ????" ...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gloves.
>> >>
>> >> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
>> >> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
>> >>
>> >> [Leith = town in Scotland]
>> >
>> > How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak into
>> > a
>> > tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.
>> >
>> > This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if
>> > you
>> > pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
>> > --
>> >[/color]
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I saw something on the news about something precisely
>> like
>> that. Sounds technically very problematic to me.
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> I was sort of trying to be funny, but the idea of please exagerated is
> to get breath air into the tube for sampling. I doubt any system like
> that will see the light of day, but then again who knows.
> --
>[/color]

I knew you were kidding, that's why I mentioned it LOL

This wasn't voluntary - it was something to install on multiple DUI
offenders.

In the demonstration I saw, the main thing that concerned them was that the
system couldn't really be calibrated properly.

I don't think it'll work, anyway.

Natalie


 
Old 01-04-2007, 07:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In article <enjijc.3u4.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu," <repubs@waitfor08.com> wrote in message
> news:repubs-9D3925.17403704012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <enjh6l.3ss.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> > "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> " dbu,"
> >> (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
> >>
> >> "badgolferman" writes:
> >> sharx35:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > "Hachiroku ????" ...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gloves.
> >> >>
> >> >> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
> >> >> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
> >> >>
> >> >> [Leith = town in Scotland]
> >> >
> >> > How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak into
> >> > a
> >> > tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.
> >> >
> >> > This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if
> >> > you
> >> > pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure I saw something on the news about something precisely
> >> like
> >> that. Sounds technically very problematic to me.
> >>
> >> Natalie[/color]
> >
> > I was sort of trying to be funny, but the idea of please exagerated is
> > to get breath air into the tube for sampling. I doubt any system like
> > that will see the light of day, but then again who knows.
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> I knew you were kidding, that's why I mentioned it LOL
>
> This wasn't voluntary - it was something to install on multiple DUI
> offenders.
>
> In the demonstration I saw, the main thing that concerned them was that the
> system couldn't really be calibrated properly.
>
> I don't think it'll work, anyway.
>
> Natalie[/color]

Education and alert friends and bartenders is the best defense at this
time. Keep em off the road.
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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" dbu,"...
[color=blue]
> "Wickeddoll®" :[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "badgolferman" writes:
>> >> sharx35:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > "Hachiroku ????" ...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > I believe once the car is started, the system is disabled.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Sweat sensors in the steering wheel detect alcohol.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gloves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Voice recognition system that requires you say, three times, fast
>> >> >> and accurately: "The Leith police dismisseth me."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [Leith = town in Scotland]
>> >> >
>> >> > How about a breath-a-lizer that would require the driver to speak
>> >> > into
>> >> > a
>> >> > tube and say the words: may I drive my car now pleeeeesssseeee.
>> >> >
>> >> > This will have to be repeated three times then the car will start if
>> >> > you
>> >> > pass the test. I think sharx will like that one.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm pretty sure I saw something on the news about something precisely
>> >> like
>> >> that. Sounds technically very problematic to me.
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > I was sort of trying to be funny, but the idea of please exagerated is
>> > to get breath air into the tube for sampling. I doubt any system like
>> > that will see the light of day, but then again who knows.
>> > --
>> >[/color]
>>
>> I knew you were kidding, that's why I mentioned it LOL
>>
>> This wasn't voluntary - it was something to install on multiple DUI
>> offenders.
>>
>> In the demonstration I saw, the main thing that concerned them was that
>> the
>> system couldn't really be calibrated properly.
>>
>> I don't think it'll work, anyway.
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> Education and alert friends and bartenders is the best defense at this
> time. Keep em off the road.
> --
>[/color]

Yup. So simple, yet so complex.

Natalie


 
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