Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
> Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
> committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
> theft of classified documents from the National Archives.* The report
> makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
> can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
> not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
> documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
> *³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
> National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
> much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
> clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
> compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
> *³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
> regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed.* No one ever
> told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
> that he could have taken without detection.
> *³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
> at a construction site to avoid detection.* We know that Mr. Berger
> insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
> he stole.* One witness with a very high security clearance believed
> he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
> *³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
> requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
> and under strict supervision.* The Archives staffıs failure to
> contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
> Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
> effort. *³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
> reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
> documents it requested.* The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
> Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
> additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
> than those he admitted to taking.
> *³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
> section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading.* Because Mr.
> Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
> without detection, we do not know if anything was lost to the public
> or the process.ı
> *³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
> credible after being caught is misplaced.* One wouldnıt rely on the
> fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house.* But the
> Justice Department apparently did.²[/color]
It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
what he was really after.
Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
"sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.
--
"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
~ Will Rogers
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
" dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
>> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
>> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
>> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
>> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
>> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
>> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
>> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
>> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
>> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
>> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
>> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
>> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
>> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
>> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
>> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
>> > that he could have taken without detection.
>> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
>> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
>> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
>> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
>> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
>> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
>> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
>> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
>> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
>> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
>> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
>> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
>> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
>> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
>> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
>> > than those he admitted to taking.
>> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
>> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
>> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
>> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
>> > or the process.ı
>> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
>> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
>> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
>> > Justice Department apparently did.²[/color]
>>
>>
>> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
>> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
>> what he was really after.
>>
>> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
>> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
>> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
>
> Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> amazing.
> --
>[/color]
And if it occurred during the Bush "adminstration" repugs would also be
silent. Get off your "quite amazing" high horse.
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
" dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
>> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
>> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
>> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
>> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
>> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
>> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
>> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
>> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
>> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
>> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
>> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
>> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
>> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
>> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
>> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
>> > that he could have taken without detection.
>> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
>> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
>> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
>> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
>> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
>> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
>> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
>> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
>> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
>> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
>> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
>> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
>> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
>> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
>> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
>> > than those he admitted to taking.
>> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
>> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
>> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
>> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
>> > or the process.ı
>> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
>> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
>> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
>> > Justice Department apparently did.²[/color]
>>
>>
>> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
>> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
>> what he was really after.
>>
>> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
>> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
>> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
>
> Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> amazing.[/color]
Considering the fiascos that've been rather frequently occurring within the
Republican party/GWB administration for the last couple of years, I'd say
this was an attempt at "Let's see if we can begin to balance the scales so
that our side doesn't look quite so awful" post.
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
" dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
>> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
>> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
>> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
>> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
>> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
>> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
>> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
>> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
>> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
>> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
>> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
>> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
>> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
>> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
>> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
>> > that he could have taken without detection.
>> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
>> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
>> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
>> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
>> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
>> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
>> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
>> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
>> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
>> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
>> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
>> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
>> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
>> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
>> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
>> > than those he admitted to taking.
>> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
>> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
>> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
>> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
>> > or the process.ı
>> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
>> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
>> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
>> > Justice Department apparently did.²[/color]
>>
>>
>> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
>> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
>> what he was really after.
>>
>> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
>> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
>> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
>
> Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> amazing.
> --[/color]
The Republicans had control of Congress, the Executive and have appointed
over hald the sitting Federal judges and they haven't made some sort of case
against Berger and you think there's something to find? Get a grip.
--
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Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
In article <45a43a0f$1$4855$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
> >> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
> >> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
> >> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
> >> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
> >> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
> >> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
> >> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
> >> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
> >> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
> >> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
> >> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
> >> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
> >> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
> >> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
> >> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
> >> > that he could have taken without detection.
> >> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
> >> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
> >> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
> >> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
> >> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
> >> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
> >> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
> >> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
> >> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
> >> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
> >> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
> >> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
> >> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
> >> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
> >> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
> >> > than those he admitted to taking.
> >> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
> >> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
> >> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
> >> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
> >> > or the process.ı
> >> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
> >> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
> >> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
> >> > Justice Department apparently did.²
> >>
> >>
> >> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
> >> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
> >> what he was really after.
> >>
> >> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
> >> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
> >> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
> >
> > Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> > quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> > amazing.
> > --[/color]
>
> The Republicans had control of Congress, the Executive and have appointed
> over hald the sitting Federal judges and they haven't made some sort of case
> against Berger and you think there's something to find? Get a grip.[/color]
Democrats blocked it. Clinton admin was very lax in all areas.
Clinton had a free pass thanks to people like you who adored him.
--
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
In article <uMCdnWcKvZVT2DnYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
> >> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
> >> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
> >> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
> >> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
> >> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
> >> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
> >> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
> >> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
> >> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
> >> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
> >> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
> >> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
> >> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
> >> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
> >> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
> >> > that he could have taken without detection.
> >> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
> >> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
> >> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
> >> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
> >> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
> >> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
> >> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
> >> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
> >> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
> >> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
> >> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
> >> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
> >> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
> >> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
> >> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
> >> > than those he admitted to taking.
> >> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
> >> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
> >> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
> >> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
> >> > or the process.ı
> >> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
> >> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
> >> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
> >> > Justice Department apparently did.²
> >>
> >>
> >> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
> >> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
> >> what he was really after.
> >>
> >> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
> >> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
> >> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
> >
> > Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> > quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> > amazing.[/color]
>
> Considering the fiascos that've been rather frequently occurring within the
> Republican party/GWB administration for the last couple of years, I'd say
> this was an attempt at "Let's see if we can begin to balance the scales so
> that our side doesn't look quite so awful" post.
>
> Cathy
>[color=green]
> > --
> >[/color][/color]
If clinton had done his job we wouldn't have had 9/11.
--
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
In article <ctXoh.4033$312.2723@trndny02>,
"Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
> >> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
> >> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
> >> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
> >> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
> >> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
> >> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
> >> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
> >> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
> >> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
> >> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
> >> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
> >> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
> >> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
> >> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
> >> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
> >> > that he could have taken without detection.
> >> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
> >> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
> >> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
> >> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
> >> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
> >> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
> >> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
> >> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
> >> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
> >> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
> >> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
> >> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
> >> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
> >> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
> >> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
> >> > than those he admitted to taking.
> >> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
> >> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
> >> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
> >> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
> >> > or the process.ı
> >> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
> >> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
> >> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
> >> > Justice Department apparently did.²
> >>
> >>
> >> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
> >> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
> >> what he was really after.
> >>
> >> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
> >> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
> >> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
> >
> > Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
> > quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
> > amazing.
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> And if it occurred during the Bush "adminstration" repugs would also be
> silent. Get off your "quite amazing" high horse.[/color]
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
dh, 1/9/2007,8:51:48 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> The Republicans had control of Congress, the Executive and have
> appointed over hald the sitting Federal judges and they haven't made
> some sort of case against Berger and you think there's something to
> find? Get a grip.[/color]
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:uMCdnWcKvZVT2DnYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> " dbu," <Demsonhotseatnow@repubsofhook.com> wrote in message
> news:Demsonhotseatnow-3D1DA6.18174909012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
>> In article <xn0f10i121l7i9x000@news.readfreenews.net>,
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> dbu,, 1/9/2007,6:37:00 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> > Washington, D.C. Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking
>>> > Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a
>>> > committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Bergerıs
>>> > theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report
>>> > makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Bergerıs document removal
>>> > can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could
>>> > not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive
>>> > documents to which Mr. Berger had access.
>>> > ³My staffıs investigation reveals that President Clintonıs former
>>> > National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security
>>> > much more than originally disclosed,² Davis said. ³It is now also
>>> > clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to
>>> > compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience.
>>> > ³The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information
>>> > regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever
>>> > told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents
>>> > that he could have taken without detection.
>>> > ³We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents
>>> > at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger
>>> > insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that
>>> > he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed
>>> > he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks.
>>> > ³Mr. Bergerıs review of documents did not conform to the usual
>>> > requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility
>>> > and under strict supervision. The Archives staffıs failure to
>>> > contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr.
>>> > Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement
>>> > effort. ³The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to
>>> > reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the
>>> > documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr.
>>> > Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located
>>> > additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others
>>> > than those he admitted to taking.
>>> > ³The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity
>>> > section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr.
>>> > Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken
>>> > without detection, we do not know if anything Owas lost to the public
>>> > or the process.ı
>>> > ³The Justice Departmentıs assertion that Mr. Bergerıs statements are
>>> > credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldnıt rely on the
>>> > fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the
>>> > Justice Department apparently did.²
>>>
>>>
>>> It's good to see someone else thinks this was an act of treason by
>>> Sandy Berger. We all know who put him up to this, we just don't know
>>> what he was really after.
>>>
>>> Do you remember when the talking heads were calling this just a
>>> "sloppy" mishandling of the documents? The only thing sloppy will be
>>> Sandy Berger's brains if he sings.[/color]
>>
>> Had this been during the Bush administration, there would have been
>> quite an uproar by the Democrats. Now, just silence from them. Quite
>> amazing.[/color]
>
> Considering the fiascos that've been rather frequently occurring within
> the Republican party/GWB administration for the last couple of years, I'd
> say this was an attempt at "Let's see if we can begin to balance the
> scales so that our side doesn't look quite so awful" post.
>
> Cathy
>[/color]
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
You wrote:
[color=blue]
> Considering the fiascos that've been rather frequently occurring within
> the Republican party/GWB administration for the last couple of years,
> I'd say this was an attempt at "Let's see if we can begin to balance
> the scales so that our side doesn't look quite so awful" post.[/color]
So you think that Berger's actions were justified and not worthy of a
criminal investigation?
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
You wrote:
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> If clinton had done his job we wouldn't have had 9/11.[/color]
No, if ALL administrations going back as far as Truman's had adopted a
Jeffersonian attitude ("Free trade and neutrality with all nations;
entangling alliances with none") towards the Middle East, we wouldn't have
had 9/11.
To believe that the seeds for 9/11 were sown - or could have been fumigated
- between 1992 and 2000 is to demonstrate supreme ignorance of the dynamic
of American foreign policy and its effect on various Middle Eastern
factions.
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
You wrote:
[color=blue]
> The Republicans had control of Congress, the Executive and have
> appointed over hald the sitting Federal judges and they haven't made
> some sort of case against Berger and you think there's something to
> find? Get a grip.[/color]
Are you saying Berger's actions were justified, legal and unworthy of
further investigation?
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" <nospam@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns98B44F429D17FredGarvin@66.250.146.128...[color=blue]
> You wrote:
>[color=green]
>> If clinton had done his job we wouldn't have had 9/11.[/color]
>
> No, if ALL administrations going back as far as Truman's had adopted a
> Jeffersonian attitude ("Free trade and neutrality with all nations;
> entangling alliances with none") towards the Middle East, we wouldn't have
> had 9/11.
>
> To believe that the seeds for 9/11 were sown - or could have been
> fumigated
> - between 1992 and 2000 is to demonstrate supreme ignorance of the dynamic
> of American foreign policy and its effect on various Middle Eastern
> factions.[/color]
IF IF IF Whenever I see "IF" statements, I see an asshole in full denial
of reality. Guaranteed, IF your statement were true, there would have been
LOTS of atrocities around the world, thanks to fucking cocksucking ***gots
like you not doing anything.
Re: OT: Another investigation of Clinton admin indicated.
You wrote:
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> The Republicans had a 20 vote edge in the House. In spite of controlling
> every committee, they couldn't get hearings on Sandy Berger.[/color]
It is not Congress's place to hold hearings in this matter; Mr. Berger's
actions did not take place while he was an administration official. This
is a job for the attorney general.
Of course the fact that it wasn't Congress's place to hold hearings didn't
stop them from hauling Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa up to Washington.
Fucking morons (the congresscretins - not Som & Big Mac).
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