Re: {OT} Duke University Rape Case is about to fall completely apart -- dismissal is looming

Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>
> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.[/color]

How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0f135ms2zau1u009@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>
>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.[/color]
>
> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?[/color]

How?

Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.

I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she was
raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent error
probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad. Not as sad
as charging and trying the wrong men ...

I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We have
more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case. Once he
is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
they were screwed royally.



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:M1zph.8496$312.1172@trndny02...[color=blue]
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f135ms2zau1u009@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>
>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.[/color]
>>
>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?[/color]
>
> How?
>
> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>
> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>
>
>
>[/color]

Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
<jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
> royally.[/color]

Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
first broke?

Scott in Florida, 1/12/2007,1:45:30 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
> ><jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.[/color][/color]
> We >> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC
> bar >> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force
> him off >> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges
> will be >> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the
> 3 >> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite
> frankly, >> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were
> screwed >> royally.[color=green]
> >
> > Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the
> > news first broke?[/color]
>
> Art is a Dim....
>
> Guilt does not matter....
>
> It is the seriousness of the charge.....[/color]

It looks like the DA wants off the case now. He has finally been shown
the door.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:20:34 -0500, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Scott in Florida, 1/12/2007,1:45:30 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
>> ><jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.[/color]
>> We >> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC
>> bar >> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force
>> him off >> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges
>> will be >> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the
>> 3 >> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite
>> frankly, >> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were
>> screwed >> royally.[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the
>> > news first broke?[/color]
>>
>> Art is a Dim....
>>
>> Guilt does not matter....
>>
>> It is the seriousness of the charge.....[/color]
>
>It looks like the DA wants off the case now. He has finally been shown
>the door.[/color]
Those three kids will take that ass hole down.

I hope they take Duke down with him!


--

Scott in Florida

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We have
>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case. Once
>he is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks
>but they were screwed royally.
>
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:M1zph.8496$312.1172@trndny02...[color=green]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0f135ms2zau1u009@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>
>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>
>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?[/color]
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit,
>> and perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS
>> assaulted and raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be
>> charged and tried. But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that
>> the three guys that were charged with the crime were not the ones that
>> perpetrated said crime. Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>
>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...[/color][/color]

Limp-wristed *** boys like Art feel threatened by anyone with any athletic
ability.

[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
> <jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
> > have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
> > has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
> > the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
> > dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
> > defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
> > these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
> > royally.[/color]
>
> Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
> first broke?[/color]

I was a jock in school, and have seen some pretty disgusting pack
behavior at parties when alcohol was involved, so what happened didn't
seem to far fetched to me. Sadly, I probably assumed they were guilty
at first. I then saw the 60 minutes show on the case, and that pretty
much did it. What is it about the ego of these District Attorneys?
How many times have we seen them willing to convict innocent people
rather than admit a mistake, or in this case, further their political
careers? Maybe DA should not be an elected position.
This is one case though that I hope those boys sue his ass, and Duke
University for not waiting until the facts were out before taking
action. Good god, they disbanded the Lacrosse team, fired the coach
(what did he do?)
and suspended these young men from school. People need to be held
accountable. They also need to hold the whole DA's office accountable.
A lot of people stood by and let this happen.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> top posted like an ignorant
fucking moron and wrote:
[color=blue]
>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.[/color]

My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
penis. (That's what the _LAW_ in NC says is rape)
[color=blue]
> We have
>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case.[/color]

He's asked the state to assign a special prosecutor.
[color=blue]
> Once he
>is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
>they were screwed royally.[/color]

Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
top post?
[color=blue]
>
>
>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:M1zph.8496$312.1172@trndny02...[color=green]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0f135ms2zau1u009@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>
>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>
>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?[/color]
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit, and
>> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted and
>> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and tried.
>> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys that
>> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said crime.
>> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>
>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]
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On 12 Jan 2007 18:03:21 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Art, 1/12/2007, 12:46:55 PM,
><jQPph.9150$pQ3.7279@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped. We
>> have more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar
>> has filed a complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off
>> the case. Once he is off, it is likely that all charges will be
>> dropped. I suspect in the end, Durham will be sued by the 3
>> defendants for ruining several years of their lives. Quite frankly,
>> these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but they were screwed
>> royally.[/color]
>
>Tell us the truth, Art. Did you believe they were guilty when the news
>first broke?[/color]

Bet.
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"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> top posted like an ignorant
> fucking moron and wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.[/color]
>
> My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
> penis.[/color]

Is that why your wife always has to ask if you are in yet?


(That's what the _LAW_ in NC says is rape)[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> We have
>>more details here than the national news carries. The NC bar has filed a
>>complaint against Nifong that will probably force him off the case.[/color]
>
> He's asked the state to assign a special prosecutor.
>[color=green]
>> Once he
>>is off, it is likely that all charges will be dropped. I suspect in the
>>end, Durham will be sued by the 3 defendants for ruining several years of
>>their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks
>>but
>>they were screwed royally.[/color]
>
> Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
> top post?
>[color=green]
>>
>>
>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:M1zph.8496$312.1172@trndny02...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xn0f135ms2zau1u009@news.readfreenews.net...
>>>> Jeff Strickland, 1/11/2007, 3:29:56 PM, <87xph.3237$Br.759@trndny08>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nifong is about to completely drop the case. The story has changed so
>>>>> many times, even the DA is unable to hold the accuser up as credible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, there is a whole new timeline coming out.
>>>>
>>>> How is this different than the other ten times the story has changed?
>>>
>>> How?
>>>
>>> Now, the guys will be freed of charges for crimes they did not commit,
>>> and
>>> perhaps were not even committed by anyone. If the victim WAS assaulted
>>> and
>>> raped by anybody, I feel for her and somebody should be charged and
>>> tried.
>>> But, it was pretty clear from the very first day that the three guys
>>> that
>>> were charged with the crime were not the ones that perpetrated said
>>> crime.
>>> Indeed, they all seem to have air tight alibis.
>>>
>>> I am not suggesting the girl was not raped, I haven't got the necessary
>>> information to make that judgement. What I am suggesting is that if she
>>> was raped, she is mistaken about whom her assailants were. Her apparent
>>> error probably means that nobody will ever be charged, and that is sad.
>>> Not as sad as charging and trying the wrong men ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:10:21 GMT, "sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:eobqjp$d9o$2@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"
>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> top posted like an ignorant
>> fucking moron and wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I live near Durham. The girl now says she probably wasn't raped.[/color]
>>
>> My wife points out that a woman would KNOW if she was penetrated by a
>> penis.[/color]
>
>Is that why your wife always has to ask if you are in yet?[/color]

Sad because you can't get any from anyone?
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On 14 Jan 2007 16:26:54 -0800, "Joe Blow" <joseph_blow16@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't like jocks but
>> >they were screwed royally.[/color]
>>
>> Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
>> top post?[/color]
>
>
>What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
>the jocks?[/color]

Who said sticking up for all the jocks? Though I'm betting those of
you who hate them must have been royally fucked by them.

[color=blue]
> It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
>stupid people with little value to society[/color]

People like you, who try to categorize people are the stupid ones.
[color=blue]
>if they don't cut it as professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
>ground war.[/color]

Ignorant little neocon.
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Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> Gary L. Burnore wrote:[color=green]
> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:46:55 GMT, "Art"[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > their lives. Quite frankly, these guys are jocks and I don't
> > > like jocks but they were screwed royally.[/color]
> >
> > Were you fucked in the ass by a jock or something? Is that why you
> > top post?[/color]
>
>
> What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up for all
> the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent people to
> despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because jocks are generally
> stupid people with little value to society if they don't cut it as
> professionals. About all they're good for is army grunt fodder in a
> ground war.[/color]

Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you are
either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.

Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,11:28:39 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > Joe Blow, 1/14/2007,7:26:54 PM, wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > What's with you spastic monkeys who feel compelled to stick up
> > > for all the jocks? It's completely reasonable for intelligent
> > > people to despise jocks (even if they enjoy sports), because
> > > jocks are generally stupid people with little value to society if
> > > they don't cut it as professionals. About all they're good for
> > > is army grunt fodder in a ground war.[/color]
> >
> > Why do you have such animosity towards people? It sounds like you
> > are either envious of them or you are an elitist liberal.[/color]
>
> Not "people." Just dumb jocks, and a few others. I am a staunch
> conservative. That doesn't mean I embrace meatheaded jocks or support
> their tendency to rape.[/color]

If you were a conservative you would consider them innocent until
proven guilty. Rapists should pay for their deeds but obviously these
boys were not the perpetrators, if there were any.

Get over your jealousy of those who have something you don't. It
certainly doesn't become a "conservative" as you pronounce yourself.