Dealership makes the difference!

Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM, Toyota,
etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership before).

I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by both,
I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
dealership when I am ready to buy.

Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.

* Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle my
car.

* Free car wash with every service.

* Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.

The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle of
my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the test
drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.

Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.

Life is good! ;)
_________
===fish===
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:14:35 GMT, "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york>
wrote:
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>Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
>dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM, Toyota,
>etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership before).
>
>I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
>the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by both,
>I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
>dealership when I am ready to buy.
>
>Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>
>* Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle my
>car.
>
>* Free car wash with every service.
>
>* Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>
>The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle of
>my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the test
>drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>
>Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>
>Life is good! ;)
>_________
>===fish===
>¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>[/color]

No S**T did they catch a live one or what.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:58:31 +0000, fish wrote:
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> Hachiroku ???? respectfully adds...
>[color=green]
>> I decided not to buy any warranty.
>>
>> Then, I get a letter from Toyota, saying that
>> since my Scion was a Toyota Certified Used
>> Vehicle, the warranty was FREE. With
>> Roadside Assistance.[/color]
>
> You bought a used car, that's why it was free.
>
> I am shopping for a new car.
> _________
> ===fish===
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯[/color]


You can still beat up the dealer!
Extended warranties are really nothing but profit for the dealer. You're
buying an insurance policy, and there is a LOT of room for profit there.

What do they want to charge you?

Hachiroku ???? respectfully sez...
[color=blue]
> You can still beat up the dealer!
> Extended warranties are really nothing but profit for the dealer.[/color]
[color=blue]
> What do they want to charge you?[/color]

I could try to get a price quote on the Internet - not sure which site would
provide such valuable info on that.

When it comes time to discuss numbers, it always helps to have printouts on
hand.
_________
===fish===
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=blue]
> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM, Toyota,
> etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership
> before).
>
> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
> the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
> dealership when I am ready to buy.
>
> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>
> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
> my car.
>
> * Free car wash with every service.
>
> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>
> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle of
> my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the
> test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>
> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>
> Life is good! ;)
> _________
> ===fish===
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>[/color]


Got a color printer? Go buy a package of the biggest paper it will handle.
Make a huge sign saying "Do Not Wash This Car Today, Please". Take the sign
to Staples or whoever does laminating in your area. Pay the dollar or two to
have it laminated. Put it on the dashboard if you bring the car in for
service when the temp is below freezing. No matter how good the service may
be, they will not show up at your house to de-ice your door locks so you can
get into the car.

"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
news:J4qrh.26985$Gj5.16866@trnddc01...[color=blue]
> Hachiroku ???? respectfully sez...
>[color=green]
>> You can still beat up the dealer!
>> Extended warranties are really nothing but profit for the dealer.[/color]
>[color=green]
>> What do they want to charge you?[/color]
>
> I could try to get a price quote on the Internet - not sure which site
> would provide such valuable info on that.
>
> When it comes time to discuss numbers, it always helps to have printouts
> on hand.
> _________
> ===fish===
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯[/color]

Extended "warranties" are actually insurance policies. I am not a fan of
them in general, but if you decide to get one, the only one I recommend is
the Toyota Extra Care. Aftermarket service contracts are often so full of
loopholes that they basically cover nothing.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=blue]
> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM, Toyota,
> etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership
> before).
>
> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
> the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
> dealership when I am ready to buy.
>
> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>
> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
> my car.
>
> * Free car wash with every service.
>
> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>
> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle of
> my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the
> test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>
> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>
> Life is good! ;)
> _________
> ===fish===[/color]

Extended warranties are NOT needed for Toyotas, unless, of course, they are
sold for under, say $100.


[color=blue]
> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>[/color]

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:cd51d$45ae5560$44a4a10d$24511@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
> news:J4qrh.26985$Gj5.16866@trnddc01...[color=green]
>> Hachiroku ???? respectfully sez...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You can still beat up the dealer!
>>> Extended warranties are really nothing but profit for the dealer.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> What do they want to charge you?[/color]
>>
>> I could try to get a price quote on the Internet - not sure which site
>> would provide such valuable info on that.
>>
>> When it comes time to discuss numbers, it always helps to have printouts
>> on hand.
>> _________
>> ===fish===
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯[/color]
>
> Extended "warranties" are actually insurance policies. I am not a fan of
> them in general, but if you decide to get one, the only one I recommend is
> the Toyota Extra Care. Aftermarket service contracts are often so full of
> loopholes that they basically cover nothing.[/color]

Then read the fine print in the Toyota Extra Care one. I read it, then
decided NO damn way would I shell out for it. Better to simply budget for
POSSIBLE repairs down the road, so to speak. With the Camry, chances are
that the cost of the Toyota EC will be MORE than the cost of the repairs.
That's how insurance works, folks, MOST people pay MORE in premiums than
they RECEIVE in payouts. Guaranteed, else the company goes out of business.



[color=blue]
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:I3rrh.772$ya1.215@news02.roc.ny...[color=blue]
> "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
> news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=green]
>> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
>> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM,
>> Toyota, etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this
>> dealership before).
>>
>> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
>> the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
>> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
>> dealership when I am ready to buy.
>>
>> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>>
>> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
>> my car.
>>
>> * Free car wash with every service.
>>
>> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>>
>> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle
>> of my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for
>> the test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>>
>> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>>
>> Life is good! ;)
>> _________
>> ===fish===
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>[/color]
>
>
> Got a color printer? Go buy a package of the biggest paper it will handle.
> Make a huge sign saying "Do Not Wash This Car Today, Please". Take the
> sign to Staples or whoever does laminating in your area. Pay the dollar or
> two to have it laminated. Put it on the dashboard if you bring the car in
> for service when the temp is below freezing. No matter how good the
> service may be, they will not show up at your house to de-ice your door
> locks so you can get into the car.[/color]

Get a FUCKING brain. Any Toyota dealer that I have ever dealt with, up here
in the land of ice and snow, simply declines to do the freebie washes when
the temp. is at or below freezing.



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>
>[/color]

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:43:02 GMT, "sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>
>"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
>news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=green]
>> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
>> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM, Toyota,
>> etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership
>> before).
>>
>> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get at
>> the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
>> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their Toyota
>> dealership when I am ready to buy.
>>
>> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>>
>> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
>> my car.
>>
>> * Free car wash with every service.
>>
>> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>>
>> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle of
>> my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the
>> test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>>
>> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>>
>> Life is good! ;)
>> _________
>> ===fish===[/color]
>
>Extended warranties are NOT needed for Toyotas, unless, of course, they are
>sold for under, say $100.
>
>
>[color=green]
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>[/color]
>[/color]

If or when you need warranty repairs (as I once did on a GM product)
do you move to the far end of the l*o*n*g*e*s*t line at some future
date? OR- are you treated as a cash customer?

jl

"Joe Lauton" <JL@Lauton2000.com> wrote in message
news:6uusq2pkufq3qu6qt3t1k7j664ths8tgoc@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:43:02 GMT, "sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
>>news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=darkred]
>>> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
>>> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM,
>>> Toyota,
>>> etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this dealership
>>> before).
>>>
>>> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get
>>> at
>>> the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
>>> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their
>>> Toyota
>>> dealership when I am ready to buy.
>>>
>>> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>>>
>>> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
>>> my car.
>>>
>>> * Free car wash with every service.
>>>
>>> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>>>
>>> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle
>>> of
>>> my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for the
>>> test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>>>
>>> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>>>
>>> Life is good! ;)
>>> _________
>>> ===fish===[/color]
>>
>>Extended warranties are NOT needed for Toyotas, unless, of course, they
>>are
>>sold for under, say $100.
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
> If or when you need warranty repairs (as I once did on a GM product)
> do you move to the far end of the l*o*n*g*e*s*t line at some future
> date? OR- are you treated as a cash customer?[/color]

Extended warranties are not a bad idea for many, many vehicles. However, on
Toyotas, no way.


[color=blue]
>
> jl[/color]

"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
news:Lohrh.3738$E35.3422@trnddc02...[color=blue]
> Earlier today, I visited a dealership very close to my good old Saturn
> dealership (turns out the company owns both lots, which covers GM,
> Toyota, etc.) and is just around the corner (never noticed this
> dealership before).
>
> I talked to the salesman, told him about the outstanding service I get
> at the Saturn dealership and it turns out that because they are owned by
> both, I will get the benefit of the same level of service at their
> Toyota dealership when I am ready to buy.
>
> Answers to my questions were quick and accurate.
>
> * Teams designated to the buyer - always the same service team to handle
> my car.
>
> * Free car wash with every service.
>
> * Free Roadside Assistance with purchase of the extended warranty.
>
> The salesman told me to compile my list of options and when the vehicle
> of my choice arrives, I asked him to give me a call, then I return for
> the test drive, then if satisfied, discuss the numbers.
>
> Not to feel pressured, I told him I'm in no rush.
>
> Life is good! ;)[/color]

A couple of things here. First, I would not buy an extra warranty on a
Toyota. Wasted money most likely. This is why you are buying a Toyota,
so you will not need to worry about this stuff, you just drive it forever.
Second, Is the service that one gets from a dealer any different if you
bought the vehicle there or not? I never thought so. Whenever I brought
a car into a dealer they have not asked me if I bought the car there, they
just did what they do without regard to that. Therefore I have always
believed that the service department of the dealer one buys from is not
relevant at all.
Tomes

"Joe Lauton" <JL@Lauton2000.com> wrote in message
news:6uusq2pkufq3qu6qt3t1k7j664ths8tgoc@4ax.com...
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>>[/color]
>
> If or when you need warranty repairs (as I once did on a GM product)
> do you move to the far end of the l*o*n*g*e*s*t line at some future
> date? OR- are you treated as a cash customer?
>
> jl[/color]

Dealers are not supposed to have separate lines for warranty and cash
customers
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク wrote:
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> Then, I get a letter from Toyota, saying that since my Scion was a Toyota
> Certified Used Vehicle, the warranty was FREE. With Roadside Assistance.
>
> Guess I can burn my AAA card...[/color]

Having AAA can be beneficial if you need a tow because many tow
companies give first priority to AAA members, and anyone else may have
to wait several hours, even when the weather is clear. Otherwise keep
the phone numbers of some companies that do nothing but towing and
aren't affiliated with any garage (in the Phoenix area, Shamrock Towing
is good for that).

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:47:07 +0000, sharx35 wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Got a color printer? Go buy a package of the biggest paper it will
>> handle. Make a huge sign saying "Do Not Wash This Car Today, Please".
>> Take the sign to Staples or whoever does laminating in your area. Pay
>> the dollar or two to have it laminated. Put it on the dashboard if you
>> bring the car in for service when the temp is below freezing. No matter
>> how good the service may be, they will not show up at your house to
>> de-ice your door locks so you can get into the car.[/color]
>
> Get a FUCKING brain. Any Toyota dealer that I have ever dealt with, up
> here in the land of ice and snow, simply declines to do the freebie washes
> when the temp. is at or below freezing.[/color]


Why do you say that? We did washes no matter WHAT! We washed the cars in a
heated garage, so we didn't care...