OT - Consumer Reports has its own recall

Safety seat tests were flawed:

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]

Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph as
intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>
> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>
> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph as
> intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>[/color]

True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>
>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>
>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>
>>[/color]
> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]


Just what I was thinking...

"Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>
>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>
>
> Just what I was thinking...[/color]


Duh!

Any car seat that can pass a 38mph test at 70mph should get an extra Gold
Star. Those that fail at 70 should be tested again to see if they pass at
38, where they were supposed to have been tested in the first place.

Instead of a Recall, they need another test for those that failed, and a
Strong Recommendation for the units that passed.

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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>>
>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>
>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>
>
> Just what I was thinking...[/color]

Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O"...[color=blue]
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> "Hachiroku ...[/color]
Jeff Strickland wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
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>>>
>>> "Art" ...
>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>>
>>
>> Just what I was thinking...[/color]
>
> Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?
> --
>
> Ray O[/color]

LOL Nice Guy Ray snarked!

:-)

Natalie

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:21:02 -0600, Ray O wrote:
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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:GQSrh.7447$dV1.513@trndny02...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>>
>>
>> Just what I was thinking...[/color]
>
> Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?[/color]


You're never too old to embrace your inner child!

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:GQSrh.7447$dV1.513@trndny02...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>>
>>
>> Just what I was thinking...[/color]
>
> Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?
>[/color]

Well, yes, I suppose WE are. But, I have a daughter with a friend from a
severely dysfunctional family, and she has a new baby that my wife and I am
helping with. We could use a child seat because our own kids (girls) are in
the baby-making age group.

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>
> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>
> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph as
> intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>[/color]

Mistakes! Retractions!
Anyone for Humble pie? I certainly am.

"Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:33:40 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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>>
>> "Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:nVWrh.23234$wq.8928@trndny07...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:21:02 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:GQSrh.7447$dV1.513@trndny02...
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38
>>>>>>> mph as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just what I was thinking...
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?
>>>
>>>
>>> You're never too old to embrace your inner child![/color]
>>
>>
>> Okay, but mashing MY inner child into a car seat is a bit over the top.
>> Surely you get the point.[/color]
>
>
> Shoot...I strap my inner child in every time I buckle the belt in the
> Scion!
>
>[/color]

Sure! But not in a Child Safety Seat that is intended for butts that are at
least 150 pounds lighter than mine. I gotta say, buckling my inner child
into a space that small would not do good things to my attitude. I'm pretty
sure I'd have to get my 45 out and start shooting.

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:28:07 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
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>> Shoot...I strap my inner child in every time I buckle the belt in the
>> Scion!
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> Sure! But not in a Child Safety Seat that is intended for butts that are
> at least 150 pounds lighter than mine. I gotta say, buckling my inner
> child into a space that small would not do good things to my attitude. I'm
> pretty sure I'd have to get my 45 out and start shooting.[/color]


Ooooohh--kayyyy....<backs away slowly...> ;)

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>
> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>
> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph as
> intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>[/color]

Feel free to buy one of the seats that will "pass" after the test speed is
halved....

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:GQSrh.7447$dV1.513@trndny02...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:40:46 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JiQrh.15991$X72.1962@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38 mph
>>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...[/color]
>>
>>
>> Just what I was thinking...[/color]
>
>
> Duh!
>
> Any car seat that can pass a 38mph test at 70mph should get an extra Gold
> Star. Those that fail at 70 should be tested again to see if they pass at
> 38, where they were supposed to have been tested in the first place.
>
> Instead of a Recall, they need another test for those that failed, and a
> Strong Recommendation for the units that passed.
>
>[/color]

Betcha the makers of the seats that passed CR's test aren't crying to the
NHTSA!

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:26:09 -0600, Ray O wrote:
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>> LOL Nice Guy Ray snarked!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie
>>[/color]
> Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)[/color]


It was a pretty good set-up, wasn't it?
Have to watch that from now on... ;)

"Ray O"[color=blue]
> "Wickeddoll®"[color=green]
>>
>> "Ray O"...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku ...[/color]
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Art" ...
>>>>>> Safety seat tests were flawed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently their tests simulated a 70 mph side crash instead of 38
>>>>>> mph
>>>>>> as intended. Amazing that any of the seats passed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> True, but I want one of the ones that passed that test ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just what I was thinking...
>>>
>>> Aren't you guys a little big for child seats?
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O[/color]
>>
>> LOL Nice Guy Ray snarked!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie
>>[/color]
> Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-)
> --
>
> Ray O[/color]

Feh, this place rubs off on folks one way or another.

Natalie