recall on tundra and sequoia

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling
533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because
of potential steering problems.
Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007
Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11
accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota
spokesman Bill Kwong.

The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front
suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the
vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice
more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said.

[url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070118/toyota_recall.html?.v=1[/url]

qslim, 1/18/2007,8:27:37 PM, wrote:
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> I was replacing lower balljoints on Tundras and Sequoias all last
> year like it was going out of style. Whats new about this one?[/color]

I guess the difference is it is an official recall.

No, there was a recall issued in 05 or 06 for lower ball joint replacement,
I think it was # 50J or 50B. Maybe they extended the vin range or
something.

In article <xn0f1d809cax6d007@news.readfreenews.net>
[email]REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com[/email] "badgolferman" writes:
[color=blue]
> qslim, 1/18/2007,8:27:37 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I was replacing lower balljoints on Tundras and Sequoias all last
> > year like it was going out of style. Whats new about this one?[/color]
>
> I guess the difference is it is an official recall.[/color]

Plus the chance of a freebie bottle of champagne in the UK. :-)
--
Andrew Stephenson

Can someone provide a photo of the affected parts so that I may get a better
idea of what needs to be replaced. I believe my Sequoia will be one of the
recalled vehicles. I'm not sure I know where the "lower ball joints" are,
or what they do.

Thanks.


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0f1d6zaatg12004@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling
> 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because
> of potential steering problems.
> Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007
> Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11
> accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota
> spokesman Bill Kwong.
>
> The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front
> suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the
> vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice
> more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said.
>
> [url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070118/toyota_recall.html?.v=1[/url][/color]

"Anonomouse" <Anonomouse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:IY3sh.2464$Hc5.163@trnddc03...[color=blue]
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f1d6zaatg12004@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling
>> 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because
>> of potential steering problems.
>> Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007
>> Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11
>> accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota
>> spokesman Bill Kwong.
>>
>> The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front
>> suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the
>> vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice
>> more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said.
>>
>> [url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070118/toyota_recall.html?.v=1[/url][/color]
>
>[/color]

[color=blue]
> Can someone provide a photo of the affected parts so that I may get a
> better idea of what needs to be replaced. I believe my Sequoia will be
> one of the recalled vehicles. I'm not sure I know where the "lower ball
> joints" are, or what they do.
>
> Thanks.
>[/color]


[url]http://images.google.com/images?q=lower%20ball%20joints&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi[/url]

Toyota may have a bigger problem than it appears. Excessive wear to a front
suspension steering part in vehicles only a year or two old can't be a GOOD
thing for their so called 'superior quality' image. Particularly on top of
Toyota being the brand with the most recalls in 2006.. Dare somebody say
the king has no clothes? ;)


mike


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0f1d6zaatg12004@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling
> 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because
> of potential steering problems.
> Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007
> Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11
> accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota
> spokesman Bill Kwong.
>
> The automaker said there was a possibility of lower ball joint that could
> make it difficult to steer the
> vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice
> more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said.
>
> [url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070118/toyota_recall.html?.v=1[/url][/color]

My guess is there have been so many replaced that Toyota can no longer hide
the problem from the NHTSA as they have been prone to do with other
problems.


mike


"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
news:48d0bb04b2f1d0f3079c2acf2116348b@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
>I was replacing lower balljoints on Tundras and Sequoias all last year like
> it was going out of style. Whats new about this one?
>[/color]

Toyota old trick of repairing or replacing things when the vehicle is in for
scheduled maintenance without informing the owners. The work is simply
listed as 'Uncompleted TSB completed, no charge' on the billing and not
listed on the warranty record. They are doing the same by 'cleaning'
engines exhibiting 'Gelling' and not telling the owners, to get the car
though the extended warranty period without having to repair or change the
engine.

mike

"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
news:585a1adc9ecae868f1a2ce11456917eb@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> No, there was a recall issued in 05 or 06 for lower ball joint
> replacement,
> I think it was # 50J or 50B. Maybe they extended the vin range or
> something.
>[/color]

They are below the upper ball joints and do the same thing, but on the
bottom. Take you vehicle to a dealer if you have a concern, WBMA ;)


mike


"Anonomouse" <Anonomouse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:IY3sh.2464$Hc5.163@trnddc03...[color=blue]
> Can someone provide a photo of the affected parts so that I may get a
> better idea of what needs to be replaced. I believe my Sequoia will be
> one of the recalled vehicles. I'm not sure I know where the "lower ball
> joints" are, or what they do.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0f1d6zaatg12004@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday it was recalling
>> 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because
>> of potential steering problems.
>> Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007
>> Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11
>> accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota
>> spokesman Bill Kwong.
>>
>> The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front
>> suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the
>> vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice
>> more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said.
>>
>> [url]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070118/toyota_recall.html?.v=1[/url][/color]
>
>[/color]

Who said there were clothes in the first place ;)


Mike Hunter wrote:[color=blue]
> Toyota may have a bigger problem than it appears. Excessive wear to a front
> suspension steering part in vehicles only a year or two old can't be a GOOD
> thing for their so called 'superior quality' image. Particularly on top of
> Toyota being the brand with the most recalls in 2006.. Dare somebody say
> the king has no clothes? ;)
>
>
> mike[/color]

It works like when you take your car in for an oil change then all of a
sudden a flaw in the steering system is "discovered" and gets fixed.
This TSB=secret recall thingy I agree with Mike.



qslim wrote:[color=blue]
> What the hell are you talking about? There is a national database
> accessible to all dealers that is updated whenever a TSB is done, so its
> on record. And there isn't a "policy" on doing work without the owners
> consent. In fact, several techs at the shop I was with were let go for
> doing such things, and there was a standing policy that owners had to
> consent to all work done to their vehicles, to include TSBs. I should
> volley personal attacks at you, ya nit.[/color]

The TSB is already in the database as uncompleted VOLUNTARY recall. Of
course management wants to know before a TSB is completed, not all TSBs are
warrantable. You bet you ass they want the TSBs done that are warrantable.
Particularly those that pay well, and do not tie up the tech for most of the
time allowed to do the job, like cleaning an engine ;)


mike


<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169345586.138615.285150@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> It works like when you take your car in for an oil change then all of a
> sudden a flaw in the steering system is "discovered" and gets fixed.
> This TSB=secret recall thingy I agree with Mike.
>
>
>
> qslim wrote:[color=green]
>> What the hell are you talking about? There is a national database
>> accessible to all dealers that is updated whenever a TSB is done, so its
>> on record. And there isn't a "policy" on doing work without the owners
>> consent. In fact, several techs at the shop I was with were let go for
>> doing such things, and there was a standing policy that owners had to
>> consent to all work done to their vehicles, to include TSBs. I should
>> volley personal attacks at you, ya nit.[/color]
>[/color]

Get real, next time you sign repair order, read the fine print. Of course
they are no 'secret' warranties, if there were the dealer would not know
about them.. The dealership knows what is warrantable before they start the
job by searching the VIN for outstanding TSBs. Customers no matter who the
manufacturer, is not going to refuse to sign a FREE warranty claim form that
informs him the work was done. If one informs a customer there are two
uncompleted TSBs we can complete for free, do you think they will say no, if
asked if they want them completed? If they ask for details they are told,
but who asks about something that is free.. If one is paying for an oil
change on a vehicle on which the engine was cleaned, what appears on the
bill is the cost of the oil change and a notation that TBS #XXXX was
completed at no charge. If they ask they will tell them we cleaned your
engine.. Who many do you think will ask why? If they do ask, they will be
told the oil looked pretty dirty.

mike


"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:2b18c$45b2fffb$47c2b532$22496@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169345586.138615.285150@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> It works like when you take your car in for an oil change then all of a
>> sudden a flaw in the steering system is "discovered" and gets fixed.
>> This TSB=secret recall thingy I agree with Mike.[/color]
>
> In 15 years working in the auto business, I've never run across a "secret
> recall." Issuing a TSB does not mean that any condition described in the
> TSB is covered by warranty or a recall. Also, in every state that I am
> aware of, it is illegal to perform any work on a customer's vehicle
> without the customer's consent, even if it would be covered by warranty or
> a recall. Toyota's warranty policies and procedures specifically prohibit
> doing any warranty or recall work without the customer's written consent,
> and the dealership risks a denial of the warranty claim if the repair
> order is not signed by the customer.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:eKydncKTALIcQS7YUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Get real, next time you sign repair order, read the fine print. Of
> course they are no 'secret' warranties, if there were the dealer would not
> know about them.. The dealership knows what is warrantable before they
> start the job by searching the VIN for outstanding TSBs. Customers no
> matter who the manufacturer, is not going to refuse to sign a FREE
> warranty claim form that informs him the work was done. If one informs a
> customer there are two uncompleted TSBs we can complete for free, do you
> think they will say no, if asked if they want them completed? If they
> ask for details they are told, but who asks about something that is free..
> If one is paying for an oil change on a vehicle on which the engine was
> cleaned, what appears on the bill is the cost of the oil change and a
> notation that TBS #XXXX was completed at no charge. If they ask they
> will tell them we cleaned your engine.. Who many do you think will ask
> why? If they do ask, they will be told the oil looked pretty dirty.
>
> mike
>
>[/color]

AFAIK, Toyota's database only flags uncompleted SSC's. A Toyota dealership
cannot look up work that was performed by another dealership, so there is no
way for them to tell whether a TSB or warranty operation was performed by
another dealership.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)