{Semi-OT} Women drivers

"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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> "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
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>> sharx35 sez...
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>>> Perhaps more MEN die in car accidents,
>>> HOWEVER, dollars to doughnuts, more
>>> WOMEN cause MEN to die in these
>>> accidents.[/color]
>>
>> Did it occur to anyone that a slow moving Prius (gender does not matter)
>> would cause someone (gender does not matter) in a big rig to swerve and
>> jacknife into oncoming traffic?
>> _________
>> ===fish===
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>[/color]
>
> Oncoming traffic has slow drivers too. Thank god for those little
> openings.[/color]

When even passing, I *assume* that ALL oncoming vehicles are speeding. That
way, I always have enough time to pass and to safely return to my original
lane.


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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "fish" ...[color=green]
>> sharx35 sez...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Perhaps more MEN die in car accidents,
>>> HOWEVER, dollars to doughnuts, more
>>> WOMEN cause MEN to die in these
>>> accidents.[/color]
>>
>> Did it occur to anyone that a slow moving Prius (gender does not matter)
>> would cause someone (gender does not matter) in a big rig to swerve and
>> jacknife into oncoming traffic?
>> _________
>> ===fish===
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
>>[/color]
> So I take it you're not getting a Pious...um Prius?
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie[/color]

Well, not the Pious...I mean Prius. However, the 4 cyl in the Camry has been
beefed up so much that I MIGHT, just might consider it instead of the 6 cyl.
which I have at present, in my 99.



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"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
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> Wickeddoll® respectfully sez...
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>>> Did it occur to anyone that a slow moving
>>> Prius (gender does not matter) would cause
>>> someone (gender does not matter) in a big
>>> rig to swerve and jacknife into oncoming
>>> traffic?[/color][/color]
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>> So I take it you're not getting a Pious...um Prius?[/color]
>
> Hi Natalie!
>
> Actually, I just got back from the market and when I just happen to park
> next to the new Prius.
>
> The woman who stepped out had a SMILE on her face.
>
> I can tell she was happy about all the gas she is saving. =)
>
> With my Saturn parked next to the Prius, I could tell that there was very
> little storage in the rear.
>
> I am hoping for more storage than I currently have actually.
>
> I envy the Prius woman for the gas she is saving, but do not envy her for
> her lack of storage.
>
> So, the RAV 4 is on my list.
>
> I submitted the online price quotes - so far, nothing as of yet.[/color]

That *smile* she had might have been due to the presence of a out-of-sight
portable electrical device. And, no, I do NOT mean a pacemaker.

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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "fish" <...[color=green]
>> Wickeddoll® respectfully sez...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Did it occur to anyone that a slow moving
>>>> Prius (gender does not matter) would cause
>>>> someone (gender does not matter) in a big
>>>> rig to swerve and jacknife into oncoming
>>>> traffic?[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> So I take it you're not getting a Pious...um Prius?[/color]
>>
>> Hi Natalie!
>>
>> Actually, I just got back from the market and when I just happen to park
>> next to the new Prius.
>>
>> The woman who stepped out had a SMILE on her face.
>>
>> I can tell she was happy about all the gas she is saving. =)[/color]
>
> Yeah, but she paid thru the arse for that thing. That car is strictly for
> saving the planet, not saving $$ - at least not yet.[color=green]
>>
>> With my Saturn parked next to the Prius, I could tell that there was very
>> little storage in the rear.
>>
>> I am hoping for more storage than I currently have actually.
>>
>> I envy the Prius woman for the gas she is saving, but do not envy her for
>> her lack of storage.[/color]
>
> Or her payments...[/color]

Doesn't ANYONE pay cash anymore for new vehicles?

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>>
>> So, the RAV 4 is on my list.
>>
>> I submitted the online price quotes - so far, nothing as of yet.
>> _________
>> ===fish===
>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯[/color]
>
> Good luck!
>
> Natalie
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"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "n5hsr" <...[color=darkred]
>>> "Wickeddoll®" " ...
>>>>>" dbu.," >,
>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" ..
>>>>>>> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16698153/from/RS.4/[/url]
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Take THAT!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> But then my hubby says you guys die from being stressed by us.
>>>>>>> >> HA
>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>> >> sequel.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I can see how that works. Especially after I saw a woman backing
>>>>>>> > up
>>>>>>> > on a
>>>>>>> > rotary...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *fwap*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Women drivers are really fun to watch, especially when they
>>>>>> multi-task.
>>>>>> Everything else is important except operating the car.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see little girlies doing it all the time. I actually had one pull
>>>>> out in front of me without looking, jabbering on the cell phone, not
>>>>> really looking at the road. She kept jabbering all the way to her
>>>>> destination, and was still jabbering on the cell when she pulled off
>>>>> the road. By then I'd pulled up to the left lane along side her and
>>>>> passed her just as she turned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles of Schaumburg.
>>>>>
>>>> "Little girlies" - you're showing your age, Charles.
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well that particular one had to be in high school. And yes, I plan on
>>> becoming an official mysogynist on my 50th birthday.
>>>
>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>
>>> Yes, I remember rotary dial phones.
>>> 78 RPM records[/color]
>>
>> WAY before my time, even though I'm 48. Your parents must have had
>> those,
>> since you're not 50 yet. I've seen them - at my grandma's (she'll be 90
>> this March)[/color]
>
> I had them, in the 50's. (I'm 56.)[/color]


Ah, a young'un? What you doin', flirtin' with LIEbralism>? At your age, you
should know better.


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>>> 7.5 inch reel to reel tape[/color]
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>> I remember reel-to-reel, but dunno if that's the type.[/color]
>
> Yeah, same here. I babysat for a couple - the husband was an audiophile &
> he had a reel-to-reel tape deck, which was piped throughout the house.
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>>[color=darkred]
>>> When cheerleaders wore skirts with pleats in
>>> them.[/color]
>>
>> They still do.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> When 16 year olds wore 'granny' glasses and
>>> 'granny' skirts. Bet theyre mostly grandmothers now. Wonder if they're
>>> still wearing them?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Depends on what you mean. If you mean mid-length skirts, yes.[/color]
>
> The granny dresses we wore in HS (mid to late 60's) were usually a small
> floral print, empire waisted, & longish.
>
> Cathy
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> If the[color=green]
>> glasses are pince-nez, then no.
>>
>> Natalie
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"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> <snipped>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> You are not likely to die in a traffic accident in Boston, because
>>>> Boston's traffic is so messed up that you can't often go fast enough to
>>>> get into a fatal accident.
>>>
>>> Ah-ha - yes, that could explain it!
>>>
>>> Except on Storrow Drive, where I was driving in a supposed 45 mph zone,
>>> yet compared w/the other traffic I was sort of doddering along at 60 -
>>> 65. Was relatively doddering because I didn't know exactly where my exit
>>> was & was trying to read a map, pay attention to what the cars around me
>>> were doing, & read signage... I missed the exit, wound up by the
>>> science
>>> museum circle, & had to wind my way back down & over... But once on the
>>> regular city streets.. yes, pretty slow. (Good thing, since I was still
>>> trying to read a map & figure out which streets were 1-way in which
>>> direction...)[/color]
>>
>> WISE drivers, such as myself, consult maps BEFORE setting out on strange
>> streets.[/color]
>
> No kidding! I did consult maps well ahead of time - both my own maps &
> on-line; had the route all printed out, highlighted, my own notes, etc.
> Plus detailed maps of Boston itself.[/color]

Sometimes, the best laid plans of mice and men...... and stuff STILL
happens!!

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> But 1) I'd never driven this route before & couldn't memorize all of it,
> once off the Mass Pike. Then 2) missed my exit off Storrow Drive, so had
> to
> find a parking lot & sit & consult a map again to find new route to final
> destination in the financial district. Found anbother way to get there,
> but
> having never driven these particular streets before, & needing a route
> that
> went from street to street to street to street, couldn't memorize it,
> either. Plus 3) most of Boston's streets being 1-way (some of them, I
> discovered, go 1-way to a certain corner & thengo 1-way in the other
> direction!), had to keep checking that I could actually turn where my map
> said I could turn.
>
> Cathy (a wise driver)
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> No kidding! I did consult maps well ahead of time - both my own maps &
>> on-line; had the route all printed out, highlighted, my own notes, etc.
>> Plus detailed maps of Boston itself.
>>
>> But 1) I'd never driven this route before & couldn't memorize all of it,
>> once off the Mass Pike. Then 2) missed my exit off Storrow Drive, so had
>> to
>> find a parking lot & sit & consult a map again to find new route to final
>> destination in the financial district. Found anbother way to get there,
>> but
>> having never driven these particular streets before, & needing a route
>> that
>> went from street to street to street to street, couldn't memorize it,
>> either. Plus 3) most of Boston's streets being 1-way (some of them, I
>> discovered, go 1-way to a certain corner & thengo 1-way in the other
>> direction!), had to keep checking that I could actually turn where my map
>> said I could turn.
>>
>> Cathy (a wise driver)
>>[/color]
>
> Don't feel bad. I consider myself pretty good with directions, can look
> at a map for a destination 3 states away and can usually get there without
> having to refer to the map again. I lived in the Boston area for 10 years
> and still got lost downtown!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

Admittedly, even though I have lived here in Edmonton for 60 plus years,
there are areas within 1/2 of where I live that I do NOT like going
to...especially at night..even with map study before hand. Nothing to do
with security..just the crazy layout of the streets.




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"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> <snipped>
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>>> No kidding! I did consult maps well ahead of time - both my own maps &
>>> on-line; had the route all printed out, highlighted, my own notes, etc.
>>> Plus detailed maps of Boston itself.
>>>
>>> But 1) I'd never driven this route before & couldn't memorize all of it,
>>> once off the Mass Pike. Then 2) missed my exit off Storrow Drive, so
>>> had to
>>> find a parking lot & sit & consult a map again to find new route to
>>> final
>>> destination in the financial district. Found anbother way to get there,
>>> but
>>> having never driven these particular streets before, & needing a route
>>> that
>>> went from street to street to street to street, couldn't memorize it,
>>> either. Plus 3) most of Boston's streets being 1-way (some of them, I
>>> discovered, go 1-way to a certain corner & thengo 1-way in the other
>>> direction!), had to keep checking that I could actually turn where my
>>> map
>>> said I could turn.
>>>
>>> Cathy (a wise driver)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Don't feel bad. I consider myself pretty good with directions, can look
>> at a map for a destination 3 states away and can usually get there
>> without having to refer to the map again. I lived in the Boston area for
>> 10 years and still got lost downtown![/color]
>
> Thank you - a soothing-to-the-soul post! :-)[/color]

My point was not to dump on you, personally, just to point out that I LOT of
drivers, especially men..sorry to say, absolutely REFUSE to look at a map
before hand.

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> Cathy
>
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>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> "Ph@Boy" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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>> My wife did that to the back of the garage a few years ago. Hit the back
>> wall, knocked over everything on the other side of it inside, and then
>> backed up, parked, walked in liked nothing happened. I thought we were
>> under attack. Now when she leaves the house I wear my full face helmet
>> until she returns. From then on, I never complain about her cooking.
>> I'm eating out alot Ray.[/color]
>
> I've found that the women in my life do not accept constructive criticism[/color]

Ray, we married men can be RIGHT...or we can be...HAPPY. Capiche?

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> ;-)
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>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" ...[color=green]
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>> "Wickeddoll®" ...[color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>> <snipped>[color=darkred]
>>>>> Perhaps more MEN die in car accidents, HOWEVER, dollars to doughnuts,
>>>>> more WOMEN cause MEN to die in these accidents.
>>>>>
>>>> Yup, like what happened to Chevy Chase in Vacation when Christy
>>>> Brinkley went cruising by!
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>
>>> You're not helping, Ray...
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>> How do you know that you are not causing men to drive off the road when
>> you cruise by in your Echo?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> That only happened when I first got it. I was living in rural New
> Hampshire at the time, and didn't see another one for nearly a year.
> They're weren't looking at *me*.
>
> Sometimes I'd come out of a store, and find a small group of guys standing
> around it. I'd have to explain what it was.
>
> Natalie[/color]

Is NH THAT rustic?

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"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> "fish" <...
>>>> I can tell she was happy about all the gas she is saving. =)
>>>
>>> Yeah, but she paid thru the arse for that thing. That car is strictly
>>> for saving the planet, not saving $$ - at least not yet.[/color]
>>
>> I figure if one likes the Prius & usually spends over 20K for new cars
>> anyway (not me, but a lot of people do), then it's pretty much a
>> no-brainer. But otherwise...
>>[/color]
> That would be me. We seriously looked at the Yaris, test drove it and
> all. We liked the price. We did not like the cardboard-like feeling of
> it. The Prius is much more of a real-feeling car and drives a lot nicer.[/color]

I took an in-between route w/ a Corolla. (I can't attest to the cardboardy
feeling, having never been in a Yaris.)
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> We also figured that with our mile per year and at 45 MPG (which is what
> we are realistically getting) it will take about 4-5 years to come out
> ahead. We plan on having it for about 10 years, as we do with all of our
> cars. I spent over $20K on the Jeep, over $20K on this with all the
> factors added in worked out to something that I did again.
> Tomes[/color]

My mileage isn't high, & I usually keep my cars for 6 years, so the Prius
still came about around $5K more expensive, even with the Corolla being a
loaded LE. So... no Prius. Yet. If I ever do get one, it will be a large
present to myself.

Cathy
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"sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> No kidding! I did consult maps well ahead of time - both my own maps &
>>>> on-line; had the route all printed out, highlighted, my own notes, etc.
>>>> Plus detailed maps of Boston itself.
>>>>
>>>> But 1) I'd never driven this route before & couldn't memorize all of
>>>> it,
>>>> once off the Mass Pike. Then 2) missed my exit off Storrow Drive, so
>>>> had to
>>>> find a parking lot & sit & consult a map again to find new route to
>>>> final
>>>> destination in the financial district. Found anbother way to get
>>>> there, but
>>>> having never driven these particular streets before, & needing a route
>>>> that
>>>> went from street to street to street to street, couldn't memorize it,
>>>> either. Plus 3) most of Boston's streets being 1-way (some of them, I
>>>> discovered, go 1-way to a certain corner & thengo 1-way in the other
>>>> direction!), had to keep checking that I could actually turn where my
>>>> map
>>>> said I could turn.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy (a wise driver)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't feel bad. I consider myself pretty good with directions, can look
>>> at a map for a destination 3 states away and can usually get there
>>> without having to refer to the map again. I lived in the Boston area
>>> for 10 years and still got lost downtown![/color]
>>
>> Thank you - a soothing-to-the-soul post! :-)[/color]
>
> My point was not to dump on you, personally, just to point out that I LOT
> of drivers, especially men..sorry to say, absolutely REFUSE to look at a
> map before hand.[/color]

Oh, well, we all know *that*! <g>

Cathy

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>> Cathy
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> How do you know that you are not causing men to drive off the road when
>> you cruise by in your Echo?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> That only happened when I first got it. I was living in rural New
> Hampshire at the time, and didn't see another one for nearly a year.
> They're weren't looking at *me*.
>
> Sometimes I'd come out of a store, and find a small group of guys standing
> around it. I'd have to explain what it was.
>
> Natalie[/color]

You are too modest. While the Echo has many good attributes, the style is
something only its designers could love, therefore, it must have been the
driver that the guys were interested in!!!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> "Ph@Boy" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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>>[color=darkred]
>>> My wife did that to the back of the garage a few years ago. Hit the back
>>> wall, knocked over everything on the other side of it inside, and then
>>> backed up, parked, walked in liked nothing happened. I thought we were
>>> under attack. Now when she leaves the house I wear my full face helmet
>>> until she returns. From then on, I never complain about her cooking.
>>> I'm eating out alot Ray.[/color]
>>
>> I've found that the women in my life do not accept constructive criticism[/color]
>
> Ray, we married men can be RIGHT...or we can be...HAPPY. Capiche?
>
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>> ;-)
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

That's the primary reason I'm still single at nearly 50.

Charles of Schaumburg.

If cD = Coeficient of Drag, does that mean cars in San Francisco have really
high cD's?

sharx35 inquired...
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> Doesn't ANYONE pay cash anymore for new vehicles?[/color]

I always do.

I have no clue what a payment or a mortgage even looks like.
_________
===fish===
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