Re: new Prius prices

mack <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> I think the price has been this low for at least a year. This is why
>> it puzzles me when people question why I'd "pay extra" for a hybrid.[/color]
>
> Umm, have you priced a Corolla or Matrix lately?[/color]

Matrix is smaller, less comfortable, noisier on the highway, not as safe,
and has too little luggage capacity for a family of 4.

The Corolla back seat is uncomfortable; it might be OK for toddlers
and empty nesters who seldom need to sit anyone back there.

Although both are low priced, I'll admit!

Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great a car,
and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.

"Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
> Tuthill" writes:
>[color=green]
>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.[/color]
>
> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>
> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
> --
> Andrew Stephenson
>[/color]

The cassette slot is perfect for holding MA Turnpike tickets. At least in my
'03.

"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1172173562snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...[color=green]
>> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
>> Tuthill" writes:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.[/color]
>>
>> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
>> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>>
>> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
>> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
>> --
>> Andrew Stephenson
>>[/color]
>
> The cassette slot is perfect for holding MA Turnpike tickets. At least in
> my '03.[/color]

You need E-Z Pass - or whatever it's called in MA!

Cathy

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"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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>> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1172173562snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...[color=darkred]
>>> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
>>> Tuthill" writes:
>>>
>>>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>>>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.
>>>
>>> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
>>> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>>>
>>> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
>>> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
>>> --
>>> Andrew Stephenson
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The cassette slot is perfect for holding MA Turnpike tickets. At least in
>> my '03.[/color]
>
> You need E-Z Pass - or whatever it's called in MA!
>
> Cathy
>[/color]
Not really. I don't pay any tolls one way or another.

"Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
> Tuthill" writes:
>[color=green]
>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.[/color]
>
> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>
> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
> --
> Andrew Stephenson[/color]

The audio system I ordered for this car has a tape player along w//the CD
player - I still had/have a slew of old tapes which I'd assumed I'd want to
play. Except I think I've used the tape player maybe all of 5 times (&
that's a high estimate) in the almost 3 years I've had the car.

Cathy

P.S. OT - re: another OT thread someplace: I went to B&N to buy B. Bryson's
"Made in America", but it's... OOP, & not only was it not on the slef but
they couldn't order it! But got it through Amazon.

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>[/color]

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:1172173562snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...
>>>>> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
>>>>> Tuthill" writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>>>>>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
>>>>> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>>>>>
>>>>> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
>>>>> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew Stephenson
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The cassette slot is perfect for holding MA Turnpike tickets. At least
>>>> in my '03.
>>>
>>> You need E-Z Pass - or whatever it's called in MA!
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>[/color]
>> Not really. I don't pay any tolls one way or another.[/color]
>
> ?? Then what's the ticket for?
>
> Plus, ore state's pass works in neighboring states, which is convenient.
> I need no toll cash to go from here to Boston. Nor do I have to wait in
> line at the toll booths. :-)
>
> Cathy
>[/color]
The ticket proves entry point onto the Pike. If I headed east I'd have to
pay. Heading west is free. Returning eastward is free. There's no point in
getting a transponder. I enjoy taking a moment and saying hello, have a nice
day. I'm a social person. I try not to be a troglodyte.

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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1172173562snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...
>>>>>> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
>>>>>> Tuthill" writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>>>>>>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
>>>>>> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
>>>>>> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew Stephenson
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The cassette slot is perfect for holding MA Turnpike tickets. At least
>>>>> in my '03.
>>>>
>>>> You need E-Z Pass - or whatever it's called in MA!
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>> Not really. I don't pay any tolls one way or another.[/color]
>>
>> ?? Then what's the ticket for?
>>
>> Plus, ore state's pass works in neighboring states, which is convenient.
>> I need no toll cash to go from here to Boston. Nor do I have to wait in
>> line at the toll booths. :-)
>>
>> Cathy
>>[/color]
> The ticket proves entry point onto the Pike. If I headed east I'd have to
> pay. Heading west is free. Returning eastward is free. There's no point in
> getting a transponder.[/color]

So then you always take the back roads to go east??

Cathy

I enjoy taking a moment and saying hello, have a nice[color=blue]
> day. I'm a social person. I try not to be a troglodyte.
>[/color]

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>> The ticket proves entry point onto the Pike. If I headed east I'd have to
>> pay. Heading west is free. Returning eastward is free. There's no point
>> in getting a transponder.[/color]
>
> So then you always take the back roads to go east??
>
> Cathy
>[/color]

I think it's fair to assume that. Are we playing *What's My Line?* :)))))

"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> [....][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> The ticket proves entry point onto the Pike. If I headed east I'd have
>>> to pay. Heading west is free. Returning eastward is free. There's no
>>> point in getting a transponder.[/color]
>>
>> So then you always take the back roads to go east??
>>
>> Cathy
>>[/color]
>
> I think it's fair to assume that. Are we playing *What's My Line?* :)))))[/color]

No... It just seems a bit odd to me... JMO, of course. Unless it doesn't add
much time &/or tedium, &/or unless the back roads are scenic.

If I go one way on the Thruway (or Mass Pike), 98+% of the time I return
that way, too. And love having E-Z Pass, which is where this all started,
re: not needing a place to store a toll road ticket.

Cathy[color=blue]
>
>
>[/color]

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
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>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
>> news:AYSdndbUO-39VUPYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@giganews.com...
>> [....][color=darkred]
>>>> The ticket proves entry point onto the Pike. If I headed east I'd have
>>>> to pay. Heading west is free. Returning eastward is free. There's no
>>>> point in getting a transponder.
>>>
>>> So then you always take the back roads to go east??
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I think it's fair to assume that. Are we playing *What's My Line?* :)))))[/color]
>
> No... It just seems a bit odd to me... JMO, of course. Unless it doesn't
> add much time &/or tedium, &/or unless the back roads are scenic.
>
> If I go one way on the Thruway (or Mass Pike), 98+% of the time I return
> that way, too. And love having E-Z Pass, which is where this all started,
> re: not needing a place to store a toll road ticket.
>
> Cathy[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]

I'm a romantic at heart. Ever since we were teens we would take the old
route. We could stop and visit most of her relatives that way. Her side of
the family used to extend all the way up the coast of Maine. Mine, on the
other hand, extended from Canada, into NY and here in MA. Sadly, most of
them are gone. So, now we visit our own grown children by either heading out
onto I-91 or west on the Pike.
Some people fell in love with the book, "We Summer in Maine", and quite a
few always wanted to get a hands on look at the old majestic home the book
was based on, located on a cliff overlooking the ocean. It's difficult to
turn strangers away when they're holding the book, startled and so
expressive with passion. Sadly, the house is no longer there and the land is
owned by someone else. The land is situated about a mile back from Reid
State Park. If you are ever in the area please feel free to ask anyone where
MaryCliff used to be. Be prepared to have your breath taken away. It's that
beautiful. (Use Rt 1A)
mark_

"Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1172173562snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...[color=blue]
> In article <45dddf11@news.meer.net> [email]ccreekin@yahoo.com[/email] "Bill
> Tuthill" writes:
>[color=green]
>> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
>> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.[/color]
>
> And the Prius comes with a good set of toys-that-aren't-toys plus
> nice driving manners (cue that thread about tyres, maybe <g>).
>
> (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
> player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)
> --
> Andrew Stephenson
>[/color]
The only thing I have used the cassette player for is to put in the
adapter so the ipod can play (used to be so the portable CD player could
play...)
Tomes

On Feb 22, 10:44 pm, Bill Tuthill <ccree...@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Andrew Stephenson <a...@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Compare the Prius to a Volvo V40, which really isn't that great
> >> a car, and you'll see why the Prius seems low-priced to me.[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > (Mind, I still don't know why T bothered to fit it with a casette
> > player, on top of a 6-disk CD player. Are they still popular?)[/color]
>
> You got casette player? Not us: curse you, Andrew Stephenson![/color]

For the US Prius audio systems:

2001-2003 AM/FM/Cassette
2004-2007 AM/FM/1CD
2004-2005 AM/FM/6CD/Cassette (JBL)
2006-2007 AM/FM/1CD (MP3/WMA) with aux-in jack
2006-2007 AM/FM/6CD (MP3/WMA) with aux-in jack (JBL)

For the 2001-2003 Classic, you could also add a 1-CD in-dash player in
the center dash cubbyhole slot. You could always add a 6CD changer to
the cubbyhole slot in the dash on all of the above (though I'm not
sure if that is true if you already have the 6CD in-dash).

So, in the US, up through/including the 2005 model year, you could get
a Prius with a factory cassette player. Since a number of people only
used the cassette player as an aux-in port, the cassette was removed
in 2006 and an aux-in port was made available.

On Feb 24, 7:59 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1172260502.965146.237...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> "m...@kluge.net" <m...@kluge.net> wrote:[color=green]
> > For the US Prius audio systems:[/color]
>[color=green]
> > 2001-2003 AM/FM/Cassette
> > 2004-2007 AM/FM/1CD
> > 2004-2005 AM/FM/6CD/Cassette (JBL)
> > 2006-2007 AM/FM/1CD (MP3/WMA) with aux-in jack
> > 2006-2007 AM/FM/6CD (MP3/WMA) with aux-in jack (JBL)[/color]
>
> could you confirm that ALL 2007 Prius's come with aux-in jack? The
> brochure seems to say that the base level doesn't, that the aux-in jack
> is only with the next level up package.[/color]

I never said that all 2006-2007 Prius come with the aux-in jack and an
in-dash CD player that can read MP3/WMA CDs.

There's the base audio (same as the base audio on the 2004-2005) found
on an optionless Prius, a mid-grade audio that has the aux-input jack
and the MP3/WMA CD capability, and then there's the JBL audio upgrade
which also has the aux-input jack and the MP3/WMA CD capibility, added
speakers, a JBL amp, and a 6CD in-dash changer instead of a 1CD
player.

See the interior tab on: [url]http://www.toyota.com/prius/models.html[/url]

However, unless you are a fleet purchaser or are buying an ex-fleet
car (such as from a car rental company or taxi service), chances are
that you'll never see an optionless Prius. Every US 2007 package
includes an audio system that includes the aux-input jack. (It's
hiding in the center console (moat between the front seats).)

(I've heard of a few 2004 optionless Prius - they're spotted by not
having a rear window wiper, as the wiper wasn't standard that year but
part of every option package...)