$240?!

Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!





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- Mama Bear

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142...[color=blue]
> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
> more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear[/color]

The cost of valve adjustment depends on the prevailing labor rates in the
area, the number of valves, the method for adjusting valve lash, and how
much time it takes to access the valves.

The Corolla has shim type valve adjustment, and if the valves are not
making noise, I wouldn't bother unless you are going to keep the car for
over 300,000 miles.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...[color=blue]
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote :
>[color=green]
>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>> news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>
>> Who said you need one?
>>
>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.
>>
>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>> going back to 1982 for that though...
>>[/color]
>
> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.
>
> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.
>
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear[/color]

Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.

Jeff

"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...[color=green]
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote :
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>>> news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:
>>>
>>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who said you need one?
>>>
>>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.
>>>
>>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>>> going back to 1982 for that though...
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.
>>
>> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Mama Bear[/color]
>
> Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.
>
> Jeff[/color]

I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82 Tercel had
180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and commented that the engine
sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a car with so many miles. For his
own amusement (and no charge to me), he checked the compression and said it
was damned near perfect, according to specs for a new engine.

Rest assured that compression has nothing at all to do with valve
adjustment Joe. Who told you that, the guys from Car Talk?


On Feb 27, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> "Jeff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nhWEh.1922$JB2.945@trnddc07...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[color=green]
> > "Mama Bear" <MamaB...@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
> >news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...[color=darkred]
> >> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote :[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> Mama Bear <MamaB...@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
> >>>news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
> >>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?![/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> Who said you need one?[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
> >>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
> >>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
> >>> going back to 1982 for that though...[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> --
> >> - Mama Bear[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
> > Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Jeff[/color]
>
> I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82 Tercel had
> 180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and commented that the engine
> sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a car with so many miles. For his
> own amusement (and no charge to me), he checked the compression and said it
> was damned near perfect, according to specs for a new engine.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -[/color]

Nope. Just a thought.


"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172585245.483849.8760@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Rest assured that compression has nothing at all to do with valve
> adjustment Joe. Who told you that, the guys from Car Talk?
>
>
> On Feb 27, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> "Jeff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:nhWEh.1922$JB2.945@trnddc07...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> > "Mama Bear" <MamaB...@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...
>> >> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote :[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>> Mama Bear <MamaB...@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>> >>>news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>> >>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?![/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>> Who said you need one?[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>> >>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>> >>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>> >>> going back to 1982 for that though...[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> --
>> >> - Mama Bear[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Jeff[/color]
>>
>> I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82 Tercel
>> had
>> 180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and commented that the
>> engine
>> sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a car with so many miles. For
>> his
>> own amusement (and no charge to me), he checked the compression and said
>> it
>> was damned near perfect, according to specs for a new engine.- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
news:Xns98E3EE1C139C5Mama@216.196.97.142...[color=blue]
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote :
>[color=green]
>> I would have someone who is knowledgeable about your Corolla listen
>> to the engine first. Some year Corollas have a fairly noisy valve
>> train.[/color]
>
> Oh ok. I also wasn't aware about the shim type valves lasting so long.
>
> I've changed the oil every 3000 miles since getting the car at 45,000 when
> it was barely out of warranty.
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear[/color]

I'd spend that money on snow tires instead of a valve lash adjustment ;-)
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote :
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>
> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...[color=green]
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote :
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>>> news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:
>>>
>>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who said you need one?
>>>
>>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.
>>>
>>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>>> going back to 1982 for that though...
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.
>>
>> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Mama Bear[/color]
>
> Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.
>[/color]

Well if like some people said here, it depends on some kind of shim
system, it may indeed take 3 hours to do it. And it may not really need
it. These valves may have been clackety from the start, I don't recall.




--
- Mama Bear

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote :
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> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:nhWEh.1922$JB2.945@trnddc07...[color=green]
>>
>> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...[color=darkred]
>>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote :
>>>
>>>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:
>>>>
>>>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that
>>>>> much?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who said you need one?
>>>>
>>>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>>>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>>>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.
>>>>
>>>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>>>> going back to 1982 for that though...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.
>>>
>>> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> - Mama Bear[/color]
>>
>> Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.
>>
>> Jeff[/color]
>
> I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82
> Tercel had 180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and
> commented that the engine sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a
> car with so many miles. For his own amusement (and no charge to me),
> he checked the compression and said it was damned near perfect,
> according to specs for a new engine.[/color]

This engine still passes emissions tests with about half, or less, of
the allowed emissions.





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- Mama Bear

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote :
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>
> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E3EE1C139C5Mama@216.196.97.142...[color=green]
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote :
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I would have someone who is knowledgeable about your Corolla listen
>>> to the engine first. Some year Corollas have a fairly noisy valve
>>> train.[/color]
>>
>> Oh ok. I also wasn't aware about the shim type valves lasting so
>> long.
>>
>> I've changed the oil every 3000 miles since getting the car at
>> 45,000 when it was barely out of warranty.
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Mama Bear[/color]
>
> I'd spend that money on snow tires instead of a valve lash adjustment
> ;-)[/color]


Now now. :)


--
- Mama Bear

Mama Bear wrote:
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>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was thinking
>more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?![/color]

LOL I get oil changes that are $75.

Idiot.

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote :
>[color=green]
>> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:nhWEh.1922$JB2.945@trnddc07...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98E3E200F2C0FMama@216.196.97.142...
>>>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in
>>>>> news:Xns98E383A00A68BMama@216.196.97.142:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>>>> thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that
>>>>>> much?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who said you need one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shim-type valve adjustments last practically forever if you change
>>>>> your oil frequently. But they take forever to adjust if you do in
>>>>> fact need adjustment done, hence the cost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your $75 price would be in line for locknut-type adjusters. We're
>>>>> going back to 1982 for that though...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I guess I don't know what's involved.
>>>>
>>>> It's a 93 Corolla 1.8 liter EFI.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Mama Bear
>>>
>>> Go to a different mechanic and get a second opinion.
>>>
>>> Jeff[/color]
>>
>> I have absolutely NO idea if this relates at all, but when my '82
>> Tercel had 180k miles, my mechanic finished an oil change and
>> commented that the engine sounded so quiet that it seemed weird for a
>> car with so many miles. For his own amusement (and no charge to me),
>> he checked the compression and said it was damned near perfect,
>> according to specs for a new engine.[/color]
>
> This engine still passes emissions tests with about half, or less, of
> the allowed emissions.
> - Mama Bear[/color]

Amazing, isn't it? Meanwhile, drive behind a 5 year old Chrysler mini-van,
and you need to wear a haz-mat suit. :-) Do you know that in the U.S.,
Chrysler & Ford use much of the same machining equipment as Toyota's
American factories? The American manufacturers program the equipment to
produce a lower quality chunk of metal.

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote in message
> news:Xns98E7D532F241DMama@216.196.97.142...[color=green]
>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote :
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:ndk9u25grpb0erp827i7iqam0gufihm8ls@4ax.com...
>>>> Mama Bear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Isn't $240 a hell of a lot of money for a valve adjustment? I was
>>>>>thinking more in terms of maybe $75? Do they really get that much?!
>>>>
>>>> LOL I get oil changes that are $75.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> You pay $75 for an *oil change*? Why??[/color]
>>
>> Sounds like NY or CA. :)[/color]
>
> *I* live in NY, & I pay nowhere near $75 for an oil/filter change.
>
> Cathy[/color]


Rochester: If you're stupid, you can get oil & filter for $15-$20 (Jiffy
Bone, etc). Decent mechanic: $25-$30.

In article <Xns98E7D2DAB4591Mama@216.196.97.142>,
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Even Midas here, does oil and filter changes for $20, and $15 if you buy
> a punch card for 6 of them.[/color]

It's called a "loss leader."
Meant to lure you in so they can up-sell you other services
(aka; a wallet flush) that you probably don't need.