OT Hachi/snowthrowers

Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and $699.

I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not melting
the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend with
packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because icing/freezing
over is my biggest problem.

Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".

On Feb 28, 6:22 am, "mark_digital©" <976-...@comcastnot.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and $699.
>
> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not melting
> the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
> dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend with
> packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
> shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because icing/freezing
> over is my biggest problem.[/color]

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>"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>?>news:1172674533.999467.222510@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>?Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
>you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".[/color]

It takes wood and metal to make them, which requires energy leading to the
generation of carbon dioxide.

And when you use it, you burn additional fat and make carbon dioxide,
although not as much as a snow thrower makes.

Jeff

I'vmark_digital© wrote:[color=blue]
> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and $699.
>
> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not melting
> the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
> dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend with
> packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
> shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because icing/freezing
> over is my biggest problem.
>
>
> Mark, I own a couple of the Toro single stage throwers both gas powered,[/color]
and they work great. NEVER a problem starting. (The larger one is
electric start). The smaller one is light enough to use as a shovel if
you need to even though it has wheels. They will clean down to bare
concrete even in heavy slush. The power to weight ratio for the user is
remarkable. I use them for small areas where large equipment can not,
and I don't care how deep the snow or slush is, it just takes a little
longer for really heavy frozen stuff. On a wooden outdoor deck the
rubber thrower paddles will vibrate the icy stuff loose and throw it off
easily. Highly recommended IMHO. As far as packed tracks, if they freeze
in, a snow blade on a truck has a difficult time with those as well.

One might suspect you have a bigger problem with the 'cement' washing away
with the melting ice. LOL

mike


"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
news:XL2dnZRwRqF2-HjYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and
> $699.
>
> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not
> melting the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the
> light dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to
> contend with packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the
> electric shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because
> icing/freezing over is my biggest problem.
>
>
>[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:0sGdnSeLWsrbNHjYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> One might suspect you have a bigger problem with the 'cement' washing away
> with the melting ice. LOL
>
> mike
>[/color]

Do you have any *concrete* evidence of this? ;)

In article <LYqdnYd5g6kjNXjYnZ2dnUVZ_v2knZ2d@comcast.com>,
"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1172674533.999467.222510@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
> you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".
> --------
> Arthritis in my hip joint and a torn meniscus.[/color]

Screw the carbon footprint and get a two stage snowblower, your body
comes before big al's global warming BS. My eight HP throws snow 30 to
40 feet. If you live somewhere that only gets very light snow fall and
your driveway is not too long, (mine is 70 feet) the little electic (115
vac) snowpups work pretty good on 3 -4 inch snow.
--

"mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote in message
news:XL2dnZRwRqF2-HjYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and
> $699.
>
> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not
> melting the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the
> light dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to
> contend with packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the
> electric shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because
> icing/freezing over is my biggest problem.
>[/color]

My wife bought me an electric snow shovel/thrower, it was useless on
anything more than a dusting.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:22:10 -0500, mark_digital© wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much time
> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like smaller
> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and $699.
>
> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not melting
> the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
> dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend with
> packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
> shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because icing/freezing
> over is my biggest problem.[/color]

I have one of those, too! I use it for under 3". Paid $40 through an ad in
the local paper. Saw one at Aubuchon's for $299!!!!

It works well, but your electric bill goes up ~$3 every time you use it.
Well, I have a HUGE driveway, YMMV...the biggest problem for me is the
cord. I have to tie 2 50' ext cords together to hit some parts of the
driveway.

See if you can find a used one. They are pretty good!

And thanks for the tip! I went back to Home Depot today. I don't know HOW
it happened but I lost the release off my compressor for the drain, and
had to try to find a new one. The snowblower was back! One use, and it
needed repair! Hmmmm....

I also bought a 5HP Ariens off E-Bay for $60. Had to drive 130 miles one
way to get it. I was going to use it for parts for the one I already
have... reverse that! Thing's in MINT condition!

Perhaps I'll have the Gfld store call Westfld. $699 sounds like the 9HP
unit they had here.

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:55:37 -0800, Mark wrote:
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> Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
> you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".[/color]

At 50 YO, with almost 1/4 mile of driveway, I think I'll stick to the
blower. And, IIRC, Mark is a little older than I am...
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>
> On Feb 28, 6:22 am, "mark_digital©" <976-...@comcastnot.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much
>> time to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like
>> smaller units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over.
>> $499 and $699.
>>
>> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not
>> melting the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the
>> light dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to
>> contend with packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the
>> electric shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because
>> icing/freezing over is my biggest problem.[/color][/color]

"dbu," <questionmark@pine.com> wrote in message
news:questionmark-CAA10D.10253728022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <LYqdnYd5g6kjNXjYnZ2dnUVZ_v2knZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1172674533.999467.222510@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
>> you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".
>> --------
>> Arthritis in my hip joint and a torn meniscus.[/color]
>
> Screw the carbon footprint and get a two stage snowblower, your body
> comes before big al's global warming BS. My eight HP throws snow 30 to
> 40 feet. If you live somewhere that only gets very light snow fall and
> your driveway is not too long, (mine is 70 feet) the little electic (115
> vac) snowpups work pretty good on 3 -4 inch snow.
> --
>[/color]

Mine is 21X60 with ample area on either side to throw it to. I've got the
outlet for it too.

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:BuiFh.11262$tA1.2079@trndny02...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:22:10 -0500, mark_digital© wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much
>> time
>> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like
>> smaller
>> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and
>> $699.
>>
>> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not
>> melting
>> the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
>> dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend
>> with
>> packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
>> shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because
>> icing/freezing
>> over is my biggest problem.[/color]
>
> I have one of those, too! I use it for under 3". Paid $40 through an ad in
> the local paper. Saw one at Aubuchon's for $299!!!!
>
> It works well, but your electric bill goes up ~$3 every time you use it.
> Well, I have a HUGE driveway, YMMV...the biggest problem for me is the
> cord. I have to tie 2 50' ext cords together to hit some parts of the
> driveway.
>
> See if you can find a used one. They are pretty good!
>
> And thanks for the tip! I went back to Home Depot today. I don't know HOW
> it happened but I lost the release off my compressor for the drain, and
> had to try to find a new one. The snowblower was back! One use, and it
> needed repair! Hmmmm....
>
> I also bought a 5HP Ariens off E-Bay for $60. Had to drive 130 miles one
> way to get it. I was going to use it for parts for the one I already
> have... reverse that! Thing's in MINT condition!
>
> Perhaps I'll have the Gfld store call Westfld. $699 sounds like the 9HP
> unit they had here.[/color]

Well, a real right wing neocon couldn't possibly step out on the driveway
without this baby:

[url]http://www.riverjetmagazine.com/fusetalk/attachments/image7%2Ejpg[/url]
[url]http://www.riverjetmagazine.com/fusetalk/attachments/image6%2Ejpg[/url]
[url]http://www.riverjetmagazine.com/fusetalk/attachments/image5%2Ejpg[/url]

Please forward a test drive review after you try it out

"Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:bxiFh.11264$tA1.2662@trndny02...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:25:37 -0600, dbu, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> In article <LYqdnYd5g6kjNXjYnZ2dnUVZ_v2knZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "mark_digital©" <976-XXX@comcastnot.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1172674533.999467.222510@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>>> Dude, ever tried a shovel? As I recall they work just fine, they give
>>> you a good workout and they have a zero "carbon footprint".
>>> --------
>>> Arthritis in my hip joint and a torn meniscus.[/color]
>>
>> Screw the carbon footprint and get a two stage snowblower, your body
>> comes before big al's global warming BS.[/color]
>
> After reading about Al's $30,000 utility bill, screw that! He outputs more
> CO2 and other greenhouse gasses in one MONTH than I do in an entire year!
>
> Do as I say, not as I do, right?[/color]

And I suppose you use renewable energy, like he does?

[url]http://tinyurl.com/2ugwtr[/url]
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>
>[color=green]
>> My eight HP throws snow 30 to
>> 40 feet. If you live somewhere that only gets very light snow fall and
>> your driveway is not too long, (mine is 70 feet) the little electic (115
>> vac) snowpups work pretty good on 3 -4 inch snow.[/color][/color]

In article <r4kFh.3753$B25.757@news01.roc.ny>,
"tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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> [url]http://www.riverjetmagazine.com/fusetalk/attachments/image5%2Ejpg[/url][/color]

betcha it won't blow snow any farther than my 8 HP.
--

"Hachiroku ãƒ?ãƒ?ãƒ*ク" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:BuiFh.11262$tA1.2079@trndny02...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:22:10 -0500, mark_digital© wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hey! Westfield Home Depot has Ariens snowthrowers. I didn't have much
>> time
>> to browse because I was there for something else. They *look* like
>> smaller
>> units than what you want. I turned a few price tickets over. $499 and
>> $699.
>>
>> I have a cement driveway and I have a big problem with sunlight not
>> melting
>> the snow fast enough. My 10 hp snowthrower is over-kill for the light
>> dustings we were getting. And when it does snow heavy I have to contend
>> with
>> packed down tire tracks. I'm tempted into looking at the electric
>> shovel/thrower. I wonder how well it does with slush because
>> icing/freezing
>> over is my biggest problem.[/color]
>
> I have one of those, too! I use it for under 3". Paid $40 through an ad in
> the local paper. Saw one at Aubuchon's for $299!!!!
>
> It works well, but your electric bill goes up ~$3 every time you use it.[/color]

How long does it take you do it? If takes 2 kW (about 20 A), and your
electricity cost 30 cents per kWH, then it would take you using it 10 hours
to use $3 worth of electricity.
[color=blue]
> Well, I have a HUGE driveway, YMMV...the biggest problem for me is the
> cord. I have to tie 2 50' ext cords together to hit some parts of the
> driveway.[/color]

You can also buy a 100' cord.
[color=blue]
> See if you can find a used one. They are pretty good!
>
> And thanks for the tip! I went back to Home Depot today. I don't know HOW
> it happened but I lost the release off my compressor for the drain, and
> had to try to find a new one. The snowblower was back! One use, and it
> needed repair! Hmmmm....
>
> I also bought a 5HP Ariens off E-Bay for $60. Had to drive 130 miles one
> way to get it. I was going to use it for parts for the one I already
> have... reverse that! Thing's in MINT condition!
>
> Perhaps I'll have the Gfld store call Westfld. $699 sounds like the 9HP
> unit they had here.[/color]

Just buy a lawn tractor that can take a snow thrower. I think you can buy
one for around $3000. But a good one costs around $6000. Better yet, get a
Series 3520 John Deere with a heated cab and a snow thrower. Just $30k. It
would take about 10 minutes to do the driveway, including the neighbors on
both sides.

When I win the lottery, I will get one for my winter home.

Jeff
Jeff