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Old 03-04-2007, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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White House Flip-Flops--Supports Gore

White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per year
to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that, according to
the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in sea
levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
scarcities.

Source: White House via AP.


 
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
"tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per year
> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that, according to
> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in sea
> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
> scarcities.
>
> Source: White House via AP.[/color]

Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.

Force everybody to drive tiny cars.
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
>> year
>> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
>> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that, according
>> to
>> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in sea
>> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
>> scarcities.
>>
>> Source: White House via AP.[/color]
>
> Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.[/color]

[color=blue]
>
> Force everybody to drive tiny cars.[/color]

Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...

I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your solution
goes OTT - simply not practical.

Cathy

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> --
>[/color]


 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:oKadnZSiIJpEl3bYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
> news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
>> In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
>>> year
>>> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
>>> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that,
>>> according to
>>> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in sea
>>> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
>>> scarcities.
>>>
>>> Source: White House via AP.[/color]
>>
>> Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.[/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> Force everybody to drive tiny cars.[/color]
>
> Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...
>
> I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your solution
> goes OTT - simply not practical.
>
> Cathy[/color]


Build SUVs for the way most people use them, not the way the manufacturers
*imagine* most people use them, which is delusional.


 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: White House Flip-Flops--Supports Gore

In message news:FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny, tak sprach forth the
following:
[color=blue]
> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
> year to 9.2 by 2020.[/color]

Good. A sign of economic growth with the side effect of increasing plant
growth.
[color=blue]
> This contained in the draft of a report prepared
> for submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that,
> according to the report, this increase should not result in
> significant rises in sea levels.[/color]
[color=blue]
> However, it should provide for wide
> spread drought and water scarcities.[/color]

Ah, the doom-and-gloomers from the 60's and 70's are back, fellating Paul
Ehrlich and other 100% wrong assholes. Suck away, ***got.
 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny...[color=blue]
> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
> year to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that, according
> to the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in
> sea levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
> scarcities.
>
> Source: White House via AP.[/color]

The administration has not flip-flopped. The administration has been
accepted global warming as a problem for years:
[url]http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070207-5.html[/url]

 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In article <oKadnZSiIJpEl3bYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
> news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
> > "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
> >> year
> >> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
> >> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that, according
> >> to
> >> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in sea
> >> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
> >> scarcities.
> >>
> >> Source: White House via AP.[/color]
> >
> > Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.[/color]
>
>[color=green]
> >
> > Force everybody to drive tiny cars.[/color]
>
> Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...[/color]

Absolutely. It would force people to have smaller families or even no
kids. Maybe it would put you out of a job, but you won't be alone.

[color=blue]
>
> I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your solution
> goes OTT - simply not practical.
>
> Cathy
>
>[color=green]
> > --
> >[/color][/color]
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
news:question-mark-5DA848.12323804032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <sZDGh.4083$B25.3532@news01.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
>> news:oKadnZSiIJpEl3bYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
>> > news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> >> In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
>> >> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2
>> >>> per
>> >>> year
>> >>> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
>> >>> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that,
>> >>> according to
>> >>> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in
>> >>> sea
>> >>> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
>> >>> scarcities.
>> >>>
>> >>> Source: White House via AP.
>> >>
>> >> Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Force everybody to drive tiny cars.
>> >
>> > Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...
>> >
>> > I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your
>> > solution
>> > goes OTT - simply not practical.
>> >
>> > Cathy[/color]
>>
>>
>> Build SUVs for the way most people use them, not the way the
>> manufacturers
>> *imagine* most people use them, which is delusional.[/color]
>
> I see too many pickup trucks during rush hour with only one person
> insiide and nothing in the box.... empty. Just hauling one ass to work.[/color]


SUVs in showrooms should have a large sticker on the window. Huge red
letters: Having 4 wheel drive reduces your gas mileage by this much, even if
you don't use it. Do you really intend to drive over boulders like in the
commercials, or should you be looking at a different vehicle?


 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
news:question-mark-33BAF2.12311104032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=blue]
> In article <oKadnZSiIJpEl3bYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
>> news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=darkred]
>> > In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
>> > "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
>> >> year
>> >> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
>> >> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that,
>> >> according
>> >> to
>> >> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in
>> >> sea
>> >> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
>> >> scarcities.
>> >>
>> >> Source: White House via AP.
>> >
>> > Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.[/color]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Force everybody to drive tiny cars.[/color]
>>
>> Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...[/color]
>
> Absolutely. It would force people to have smaller families or even no
> kids. Maybe it would put you out of a job, but you won't be alone.[/color]

You are nuts. 1) This is the U.S., not China - you can't "force" people to
have fewer children, even through this srrt of means - people tend to value
their personal rights. 2) Last I knew, the average number of children per
American family is ~2 (give or take a fraction of a kid) anyway. 3) There
are about to be a ton of retirements, re: us baby boomers - even if teaching
positions are cut via attrition, yet more positions will need to be filled
in the next few years due to the very large number of soon-to-be retirees.
Couple that with the fact that it can be difficult to persuade people to go
into teaching to begin with; neither I (who am the most senior teacher in my
building & plan to stay a little while longer), nor others, would be out of
a job.

Cathy

[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your solution
>> goes OTT - simply not practical.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>> > --
>> >[/color][/color]
> --
>[/color]


 
Old 03-04-2007, 12:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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In article <FeqdndClnemgjnbYnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
> news:question-mark-33BAF2.12311104032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <oKadnZSiIJpEl3bYnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> "dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
> >> news:question-mark-147272.11590204032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <FEDGh.4125$ya1.2322@news02.roc.ny>,
> >> > "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> White House Admits that U.S. is going from 6.6 Billion tons of CO2 per
> >> >> year
> >> >> to 9.2 by 2020. This contained in the draft of a report prepared for
> >> >> submission to the U.N. A "silver lining", if you will, is that,
> >> >> according
> >> >> to
> >> >> the report, this increase should not result in significant rises in
> >> >> sea
> >> >> levels. However, it should provide for wide spread drought and water
> >> >> scarcities.
> >> >>
> >> >> Source: White House via AP.
> >> >
> >> > Get rid of pickup trucks and large SUVs and our problems will vanish.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Force everybody to drive tiny cars.
> >>
> >> Incl. families w/ 4 or 5 kids...[/color]
> >
> > Absolutely. It would force people to have smaller families or even no
> > kids. Maybe it would put you out of a job, but you won't be alone.[/color]
>
> You are nuts. 1) This is the U.S., not China - you can't "force" people to
> have fewer children, even through this srrt of means - people tend to value
> their personal rights. 2) Last I knew, the average number of children per
> American family is ~2 (give or take a fraction of a kid) anyway. 3) There
> are about to be a ton of retirements, re: us baby boomers - even if teaching
> positions are cut via attrition, yet more positions will need to be filled
> in the next few years due to the very large number of soon-to-be retirees.
> Couple that with the fact that it can be difficult to persuade people to go
> into teaching to begin with; neither I (who am the most senior teacher in my
> building & plan to stay a little while longer), nor others, would be out of
> a job.
>
> Cathy[/color]

If it proves that humans are contributing to global warming then the
solution would be to have fewer of them on earth, agree?

[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> I think the auto industry should ramp up their efforts, but your solution
> >> goes OTT - simply not practical.
> >>
> >> Cathy
> >>
> >>
> >> > --
> >> >[/color]
> > --
> >[/color][/color]
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Old 03-05-2007, 05:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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In article <MuMGh.9228$Jl.1602@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Eliminate the tax deduction for dependents unless they are adopted.[/color]

GOOD IDEA!!

This is one time I will agree with you.
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