Republican failure (again)

Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight and
hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until now. In
fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it seems.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>> seems.
>>[/color]
>
> How can this be? Last week, one of the 3 musketeers (might've been golf
> boy, but maybe dbu or snott) said there was no problem.[/color]

When I heard GWB mention it, & that head honchos at Walter Reed have been
ousted, I was thinking just that. Hmmmm... no problems, huh?

Cathy
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>
>[/color]

"tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight and
> hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until now.
> In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it seems.[/color]

No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor does
having Democrats in control of Congress.

The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington Post.
If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in control
of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.

Jeff

"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...[color=green]
>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>> seems.[/color]
>
> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor does
> having Democrats in control of Congress.
>
> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>
> Jeff[/color]


Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their jobs.
"You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after Katrina?

Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary of
defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has been
told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode of the
Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>>> seems.[/color]
>>
>> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor
>> does having Democrats in control of Congress.
>>
>> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
>> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
>> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>>
>> Jeff[/color]
>
>
> Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their jobs.
> "You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after Katrina?[/color]

So the administration is learning about cleaning house when there is a major
problem with the way something is run. It's about time.
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> Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary
> of defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has
> been told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode of
> the Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.[/color]

The other thing that is changed is that the American people are not very
happy with the way things appear to going in Iraq. They also understand that
the war is very stressful for our soldiers in Iraq, especially having to
serve two or three tours of duty there. They think that at least the
soldiers who are injured deserve decent medical care.

Jeff

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>>> seems.[/color]
>>
>> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor
>> does having Democrats in control of Congress.
>>
>> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
>> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
>> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>>
>> Jeff[/color]
>
>
> Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their jobs.
> "You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after Katrina?
>
> Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary
> of defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has
> been told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode of
> the Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.[/color]
Agreed- why it wasn't outed sooner is sad, but a Congress doing its job on
oversight would have been a plus and NOT having Rumsfeld meant we got to
skip months of spin and denial, Gates just plain stepped up to the plate.

"dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
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> In article <r_DGh.4129$ya1.3536@news02.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>> > Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>> > and
>> > hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>> > now.
>> > In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it seems.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> How can this be? Last week, one of the 3 musketeers (might've been golf
>> boy,
>> but maybe dbu or snott) said there was no problem.[/color]
>
> I never said there was no problem.. I said the problem appears to be in
> only one building, building 18. Didn't you read what I posted regarding
> this?
>
> What boggles me, is why couldn't have had a building management
> supervisor taken care of this. A small problem has to go to top level
> government. That's a crock.[/color]


It had to go all the way to the top in order to expose the hypocrisy of
those who accuse others of not supporting the troops. That includes the
president, you, and my neighbor who says I don't support the troops because
I don't have one of those magnetic thingies on my vehicle.

It's also good to go straight to the top because that's where the buck
stops. If I have a serious customer service problem that's not getting
solved, I always write to the CEO of the company immediately. I don't deal
with underlings.

"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>>>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>>>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>>>> seems.
>>>
>>> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor
>>> does having Democrats in control of Congress.
>>>
>>> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
>>> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
>>> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>>>
>>> Jeff[/color]
>>
>>
>> Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their
>> jobs. "You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after
>> Katrina?[/color]
>
> So the administration is learning about cleaning house when there is a
> major problem with the way something is run. It's about time.[/color]

Yep.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary
>> of defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has
>> been told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode
>> of the Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.[/color]
>
> The other thing that is changed is that the American people are not very
> happy with the way things appear to going in Iraq. They also understand
> that the war is very stressful for our soldiers in Iraq, especially having
> to serve two or three tours of duty there. They think that at least the
> soldiers who are injured deserve decent medical care.
>
> Jeff[/color]

Yep, definitely. (I like it when somneone else manages to save me a bunch
of time & typing! <g>)

Cathy[color=blue]
>[/color]

"tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9gEGh.4134$ya1.1931@news02.roc.ny...[color=green]
>> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...
>>>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>>>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>>>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>>>> seems.
>>>
>>> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor
>>> does having Democrats in control of Congress.
>>>
>>> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
>>> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
>>> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>>>
>>> Jeff[/color]
>>
>>
>> Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their
>> jobs. "You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after
>> Katrina?
>>
>> Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary
>> of defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has
>> been told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode
>> of the Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.[/color][/color]

[color=blue]
> Agreed- why it wasn't outed sooner is sad, but a Congress doing its job on
> oversight would have been a plus and NOT having Rumsfeld meant we got to
> skip months of spin and denial, Gates just plain stepped up to the plate.[/color]

Congress things doing their jobs would mean maybe they'd leave their comfy
surroundings once a week and go visit some of these soldiers. They should
see the results of what they voted for. With guns to their heads.

"dbu," <question-mark@einp.com> wrote in message
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> In article <r_DGh.4129$ya1.3536@news02.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
>> > Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>> > and
>> > hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>> > now.
>> > In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it seems.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> How can this be? Last week, one of the 3 musketeers (might've been golf
>> boy,
>> but maybe dbu or snott) said there was no problem.[/color]
>
> I never said there was no problem.. I said the problem appears to be in
> only one building, building 18. Didn't you read what I posted regarding
> this?
>
> What boggles me, is why couldn't have had a building management
> supervisor taken care of this.[/color]

Apparently that building's manager is (was?) himself an injured soldier.

Cathy

A small problem has to go to top level[color=blue]
> government. That's a crock.
> --
>[/color]

Yeah. A commission that pulled Robert Gates out of a hat when Rumsfeld
finally flushed himself. I believe that.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Gee and here I thought it was the Trilateral Commission that told Bush
> what to do?
>
> mike
>
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "tak" <takirch@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bYDGh.4082$B25.3276@news01.roc.ny...
>>>> Walter Reed mess in existence for several years, but with no oversight
>>>> and hearings by Republican controlled Congress, allowed to fester until
>>>> now. In fairness, having a new Sec of Defense makes a difference it
>>>> seems.
>>>
>>> No, I don't the Secretary of Defense matters at all in this case. Nor
>>> does having Democrats in control of Congress.
>>>
>>> The only reason this came to light was the reporting by the Washington
>>> Post. If the old Sec. of Defense were still there or Republicans were in
>>> control of the House and Senate, it still would have came to light.
>>>
>>> Jeff[/color]
>>
>>
>> Probably, but I suspect the offending parties would still have their
>> jobs. "You're doin' a great job, Brownie". Remember that, just after
>> Katrina?
>>
>> Now, something important has changed. Bush has a sane person as secretary
>> of defense, chosen by his father, who is also sane and sentient. Bush has
>> been told to shut up and obey, and that he's not starring in an episode
>> of the Andy Griffith Show. This is real life.
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>I did not know Generals were all Republicans LOL[/color]


If you spent as much time UYFH as LOL, you could be respectable.