Wheel Alignment - 2005 Corolla

TeGGer® wrote:[color=blue]
> Have you ruled out that the car may simply be following the road
> crown?[/color]

That's why I suggested the OP reverse the tires to see if the problem
moves :-)

"Travis Jordan" <no.one@no.net> wrote in
news:plnSd.2953900$f47.530227@news.easynews.com:
[color=blue]
> TeGGer® wrote:[color=green]
>> Have you ruled out that the car may simply be following the road
>> crown?[/color]
>
> That's why I suggested the OP reverse the tires to see if the problem
> moves :-)
>
>
>[/color]


Road crown is different from conicity and other tire-related matters.

If you're on an Interstate (with a grassy median) in the left lane and the
car drifts to the left, but to the right while in the right lane, then
there may be nothing wrong at all.

--
TeGGeR®

Rod wrote:
[color=blue]
> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or left
> on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in with
> my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero. From
> posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct factory
> setting.
>
> The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a little
> toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec limit. It does
> better now, but there is still just enough very slow drift to be
> annoying.
>
> I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right direction)
> might help keep it in a straight line as that would affect king pin
> inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and comments on whether
> or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is camber adjustable on
> this car short of bending the body?
>
> I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
> can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as accurately
> as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats vacuuming
> the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.
>
> Rod
>[/color]

tirerack.com has an excellent section on how to diagnose this type of
problem.

[url]http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/diagnosingtirepull.jsp[/url]

going back one step gives you a listing of other articles:

[url]http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/ownersmanual.jsp[/url]

Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=blue]
> "Rod" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
> news:q6tj115r8ouf3v1v0otq283u1po6gc1am2@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or left
>> on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in with
>> my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero. From
>> posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct factory
>> setting.
>>
>> The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a little
>> toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec limit. It does
>> better now, but there is still just enough very slow drift to be
>> annoying.
>>
>> I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right
>> direction) might help keep it in a straight line as that would
>> affect king pin inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and
>> comments on whether or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is
>> camber adjustable on this car short of bending the body?
>>
>> I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
>> can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as accurately
>> as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats vacuuming
>> the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.
>>
>> Rod[/color]
>
> First point to note is that as this is a 2005 car you may have just
> voided your warranty.[/color]

Oh stop the NONSENSE. The OP has only futzed with the toe adjustment. That
does not compromise the car's quality or worksmanship.

[color=blue]
> In reference to other posts here - is this wander related to the road
> you are travelling (or does it wander either way on the same stretch)
>
> I assume your tyre pressures are correct
>
> Did you check rear end alignment.[/color]

Tell the OP how to measure tracking, toe, and thrust on his car which has a
trailing arm suspension. ;-)
--

- Philip

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
news:EVySd.3552$Ba3.1613@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=green]
>> "Rod" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:q6tj115r8ouf3v1v0otq283u1po6gc1am2@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or left
>>> on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in with
>>> my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero. From
>>> posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct factory
>>> setting.
>>>
>>> The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a little
>>> toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec limit. It does
>>> better now, but there is still just enough very slow drift to be
>>> annoying.
>>>
>>> I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right
>>> direction) might help keep it in a straight line as that would
>>> affect king pin inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and
>>> comments on whether or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is
>>> camber adjustable on this car short of bending the body?
>>>
>>> I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
>>> can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as accurately
>>> as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats vacuuming
>>> the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.
>>>
>>> Rod[/color]
>>
>> First point to note is that as this is a 2005 car you may have just
>> voided your warranty.[/color]
>
> Oh stop the NONSENSE. The OP has only futzed with the toe adjustment.
> That does not compromise the car's quality or worksmanship.[/color]

Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the quality or
workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the steering and they find
he has been playing with it then it is very possible that they will refuse
to cover any repairs.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> In reference to other posts here - is this wander related to the road
>> you are travelling (or does it wander either way on the same stretch)
>>
>> I assume your tyre pressures are correct
>>
>> Did you check rear end alignment.[/color]
>
> Tell the OP how to measure tracking, toe, and thrust on his car which has
> a trailing arm suspension. ;-)
> --
>
> - Philip
>
>[/color]
This can be measured - may not be able to adjust it, but it can be measured
(this is why they have four wheel alignment systems isn't it?)

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:11:42 -0600, Rod <nobody@home.com> wrote:

snip[color=blue]
>I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right direction)
>might help keep it in a straight line as that would affect king pin
>inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and comments on whether
>or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is camber adjustable on
>this car short of bending the body?[/color]
snip[color=blue]
>Rod[/color]

Many thanks for all the responses.

The problem was not a pull to one side from conicity or from the crown
in the road, nor was it bad enough to be called a wander. It was a
slow drift, after making a normal correction to keep the car headed
straight. Sometimes it would drift left, sometimes to the right, no
consistency. At first I suspected I was over controlling, so I made a
special effort not to do that.

Of the fourteen cars I have owned, I had only one other car drift
that way, a Mercury back in the early seventies. No amount of shop
alignments would cure it. Out of frustration I bought an alignment
tool from J. C. Whitney (stop the groaning). It's a gadget with a
spirit level that clamps onto the hub and measures camber and caster.
That's when I learned on my own about the importance of kpi (king pin
inclination) on keeping a car traveling straight. This is seldom
mentioned when discussing wheel alignment, I suppose because it is
built in and not adjustable. At least I think that's the case.

Back to the Corolla: I did not want to mess with camber or caster
because the car is new, but I thought a tweak of the toe-in might
help. To quote from the web site:

[url]http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html[/url]

"So if minimum tire wear and power loss are achieved with zero toe,
why have any toe angles at all? The answer is that toe settings have a
major impact on directional stability."

Years ago I built a toe-in measuring device consisting of an
adjustable beam with needle pointed screws on each end at right angles
to the beam (too much to describe in detail here). In use the beam is
adjusted so as to center the needle points on the rear faces of the
tire treads at axle-center height. A piece of masking tape is placed
on each tire tread under the points, and the beam is rotated forward
causing each needle point to punch a very tiny hole in each piece of
tape. Then the car is then rolled forward to rotate the wheels 180
degrees. The beam is moved to the front without any change in its
length. One screw point is set slightly into the hole it punched
previously, and the beam rotated again. If the toe-in or toe-out is
non-zero, the other screw point will punch a hole near its previous
punch. The distance between those two holes is the toe-in or toe-out.
This is the method I use, and I believe it to be sufficiently accurate
when the specs are +/- 0.10 inch. Of course when I set toe-in, I
keep a close eye on tire wear by regularly running my hand across the
treads feeling for feathering. Well, I do that routinely anyway.

Anyway, that's enough about all this. I know enough not to mess with
camber or caster on a new car, and the change from zero to 2 mm toe-in
did help. I posted my question mostly because I was curious about kpi
and camber on this car.

After driving the car yesterday, I decided to leave it as is for a
while. If I find it still drifts enough to be annoyingly noticeable,
maybe I'll try 3 mm or take it to a shop. I had a van aligned at the
local Sears a year or two ago and I was favorably impressed. But so
much depends on the operator, and if he's gone...

Thanks again for all the advice. This is a great group. Maybe some
others who Google newsgroups for wheel alignment will benefit from
this discussion.

Rod

Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=blue]
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
> news:EVySd.3552$Ba3.1613@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Rod" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q6tj115r8ouf3v1v0otq283u1po6gc1am2@4ax.com...
>>>> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or
>>>> left on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in
>>>> with my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero.
>>>> From posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct
>>>> factory setting.
>>>>
>>>> The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a
>>>> little toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec
>>>> limit. It does better now, but there is still just enough very
>>>> slow drift to be annoying.
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right
>>>> direction) might help keep it in a straight line as that would
>>>> affect king pin inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and
>>>> comments on whether or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is
>>>> camber adjustable on this car short of bending the body?
>>>>
>>>> I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
>>>> can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as
>>>> accurately as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats
>>>> vacuuming the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.
>>>>
>>>> Rod
>>>
>>> First point to note is that as this is a 2005 car you may have just
>>> voided your warranty.[/color]
>>
>> Oh stop the NONSENSE. The OP has only futzed with the toe
>> adjustment. That does not compromise the car's quality or
>> worksmanship.[/color]
>
> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the quality
> or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the steering and
> they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible that
> they will refuse to cover any repairs.[/color]

No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of The
Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or is physically
modified (which the OP has not done), or is deliberately abused (ie,
repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM exceeding redline).
[color=blue][color=green]
>>snip<< Tell the OP how to measure tracking, toe, and thrust on his car
>> which has a trailing arm suspension. ;-)
>>[/color]
> This can be measured - may not be able to adjust it, but it can be
> measured (this is why they have four wheel alignment systems isn't
> it?)[/color]

Tell the OP how to measure his front/rear wheel tracking and rear thrust
angles at home in his driveway with the accuracy of an alignment rack. ;-)
--

- Philip

Rod wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:11:42 -0600, Rod <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>snip<
> Many thanks for all the responses.
>
> The problem was not a pull to one side from conicity or from the crown
> in the road, nor was it bad enough to be called a wander. It was a
> slow drift, after making a normal correction to keep the car headed
> straight. Sometimes it would drift left, sometimes to the right, no
> consistency. At first I suspected I was over controlling, so I made a
> special effort not to do that.
>
> Of the fourteen cars I have owned, I had only one other car drift
> that way, a Mercury back in the early seventies. No amount of shop
> alignments would cure it. Out of frustration I bought an alignment
> tool from J. C. Whitney (stop the groaning).[/color]

We are groaning and you ... are not. Take the hint. Now that you have
buggered up the alignment, take the car to a good alignment shop and get a
printout and adjustments set properly. THEN go find some else to fuss about
.... something NOT related to the car.
[color=blue]
>snip<
> Back to the Corolla: I did not want to mess with camber or caster
> because the car is new, but I thought a tweak of the toe-in might
> help.
>snip<
>Rod[/color]

Neither is adjustable by you. Go find something else NOT related to the car
to fuss over.
--

- Philip

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
news:QuJSd.8686$x53.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>> news:EVySd.3552$Ba3.1613@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> "Rod" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q6tj115r8ouf3v1v0otq283u1po6gc1am2@4ax.com...
>>>>> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or
>>>>> left on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in
>>>>> with my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero.
>>>>> From posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct
>>>>> factory setting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a
>>>>> little toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec
>>>>> limit. It does better now, but there is still just enough very
>>>>> slow drift to be annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right
>>>>> direction) might help keep it in a straight line as that would
>>>>> affect king pin inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and
>>>>> comments on whether or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is
>>>>> camber adjustable on this car short of bending the body?
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
>>>>> can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as
>>>>> accurately as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats
>>>>> vacuuming the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>
>>>> First point to note is that as this is a 2005 car you may have just
>>>> voided your warranty.
>>>
>>> Oh stop the NONSENSE. The OP has only futzed with the toe
>>> adjustment. That does not compromise the car's quality or
>>> worksmanship.[/color]
>>
>> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the quality
>> or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the steering and
>> they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible that
>> they will refuse to cover any repairs.[/color]
>
> No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of The
> Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or is
> physically modified (which the OP has not done), or is deliberately abused
> (ie, repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM exceeding redline).[/color]

To take Philip's point a step further, competition or physical modifications
don't necessarily void the warranty. Failures caused by competion or
modifications won't be covered but defects in materials or workmanship will
be covered.

In the OP's case, if the dealer cannot tell by looking at the car that the
OP changed the toe, then an alignment might be covered during the adjustment
coverage period. If the adjusting sleeves are all marked up, he may have to
pay for an alignment.
[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>snip<< Tell the OP how to measure tracking, toe, and thrust on his car
>>> which has a trailing arm suspension. ;-)
>>>[/color]
>> This can be measured - may not be able to adjust it, but it can be
>> measured (this is why they have four wheel alignment systems isn't
>> it?)[/color]
>
> Tell the OP how to measure his front/rear wheel tracking and rear thrust
> angles at home in his driveway with the accuracy of an alignment rack.
> ;-)
> --
>
> - Philip[/color]

I'm sure that all of the service facilities that have invested $20,000 + for
an alignment rack and technician training would love to hear how they can
get by without that investment as well!
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
> news:QuJSd.8686$x53.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the
>>> quality or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the
>>> steering
>>> and they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible
>>> that they will refuse to cover any repairs.[/color]
>>
>> No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of
>> The Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or is
>> physically modified (which the OP has not done), or is deliberately
>> abused (ie, repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM exceeding redline).[/color]
>
> To take Philip's point a step further, competition or physical
> modifications don't necessarily void the warranty. Failures caused
> by competion or modifications won't be covered but defects in
> materials or workmanship will be covered.
>
> In the OP's case, if the dealer cannot tell by looking at the car
> that the OP changed the toe, then an alignment might be covered
> during the adjustment coverage period. If the adjusting sleeves are
> all marked up, he may have to pay for an alignment.[/color]

Soooooooo.... if a portion of one of those laserclad valve seats flakes off
of a 1ZZFE cylinder head during a sanctioned competition ... Toyota would
still cover a replacement cylinder head?
--

- Philip

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
news:oKLSd.8766$x53.7797@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>> news:QuJSd.8686$x53.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the
>>>> quality or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the
>>>> steering
>>>> and they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible
>>>> that they will refuse to cover any repairs.
>>>
>>> No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of
>>> The Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or is
>>> physically modified (which the OP has not done), or is deliberately
>>> abused (ie, repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM exceeding redline).[/color]
>>
>> To take Philip's point a step further, competition or physical
>> modifications don't necessarily void the warranty. Failures caused
>> by competion or modifications won't be covered but defects in
>> materials or workmanship will be covered.
>>
>> In the OP's case, if the dealer cannot tell by looking at the car
>> that the OP changed the toe, then an alignment might be covered
>> during the adjustment coverage period. If the adjusting sleeves are
>> all marked up, he may have to pay for an alignment.[/color]
>
> Soooooooo.... if a portion of one of those laserclad valve seats flakes
> off of a 1ZZFE cylinder head during a sanctioned competition ... Toyota
> would still cover a replacement cylinder head?
> --
>
> - Philip[/color]

Cylinder head, block, brakes, transmission, etc. that failed during a
sanctioned competition wouldn't be covered but a defective radio, power
mirror, etc. probably would be.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
> news:oKLSd.8766$x53.7797@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>>> news:QuJSd.8686$x53.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the
>>>>> quality or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the
>>>>> steering
>>>>> and they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible
>>>>> that they will refuse to cover any repairs.
>>>>
>>>> No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of
>>>> The Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or
>>>> is physically modified (which the OP has not done), or is
>>>> deliberately abused (ie, repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM
>>>> exceeding redline).
>>>
>>> To take Philip's point a step further, competition or physical
>>> modifications don't necessarily void the warranty. Failures caused
>>> by competion or modifications won't be covered but defects in
>>> materials or workmanship will be covered.
>>>
>>> In the OP's case, if the dealer cannot tell by looking at the car
>>> that the OP changed the toe, then an alignment might be covered
>>> during the adjustment coverage period. If the adjusting sleeves are
>>> all marked up, he may have to pay for an alignment.[/color]
>>
>> Soooooooo.... if a portion of one of those laserclad valve seats
>> flakes off of a 1ZZFE cylinder head during a sanctioned competition
>> ... Toyota would still cover a replacement cylinder head?
>> --
>>
>> - Philip[/color]
>
> Cylinder head, block, brakes, transmission, etc. that failed during a
> sanctioned competition wouldn't be covered but a defective radio,
> power mirror, etc. probably would be.[/color]

Ah! My intention was to provide you with an opportunity to clarify by
example. :^) Well done.
--

- Philip

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
news:fXNSd.4154$Ba3.3059@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>> news:oKLSd.8766$x53.7797@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Ray O wrote:
>>>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>>>> news:QuJSd.8686$x53.1183@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>> Donald Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>> Not all agencies worry about whether you have compromised the
>>>>>> quality or workmanship - if the wander was due to a fault in the
>>>>>> steering
>>>>>> and they find he has been playing with it then it is very possible
>>>>>> that they will refuse to cover any repairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> No true. The ONLY "agency" in this context is TOYOTA. Portions of
>>>>> The Warranty -can- be voided if the car is used for competition or
>>>>> is physically modified (which the OP has not done), or is
>>>>> deliberately abused (ie, repeated mis-shift resulting in RPM
>>>>> exceeding redline).
>>>>
>>>> To take Philip's point a step further, competition or physical
>>>> modifications don't necessarily void the warranty. Failures caused
>>>> by competion or modifications won't be covered but defects in
>>>> materials or workmanship will be covered.
>>>>
>>>> In the OP's case, if the dealer cannot tell by looking at the car
>>>> that the OP changed the toe, then an alignment might be covered
>>>> during the adjustment coverage period. If the adjusting sleeves are
>>>> all marked up, he may have to pay for an alignment.
>>>
>>> Soooooooo.... if a portion of one of those laserclad valve seats
>>> flakes off of a 1ZZFE cylinder head during a sanctioned competition
>>> ... Toyota would still cover a replacement cylinder head?
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Philip[/color]
>>
>> Cylinder head, block, brakes, transmission, etc. that failed during a
>> sanctioned competition wouldn't be covered but a defective radio,
>> power mirror, etc. probably would be.[/color]
>
> Ah! My intention was to provide you with an opportunity to clarify by
> example. :^) Well done.
> --
>
> - Philip[/color]
Thanks! We tend to be on the same page most of the time.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or left
on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in with
my home-built toe-in measuring device and found it to be zero. From
posts in this newsgroup I believe that to be the correct factory
setting.

The steering linkage was very tight, so I decided to give it a little
toe-in. It now has 2 mm, which I believe is the spec limit. It does
better now, but there is still just enough very slow drift to be
annoying.

I am thinking that perhaps a change in camber (in the right direction)
might help keep it in a straight line as that would affect king pin
inclination. I would appreciate your thoughts and comments on whether
or not this is a reasonable move. And also, is camber adjustable on
this car short of bending the body?

I prefer not to take it to the dealer or other service facility. I
can measure camber and caster, although admittedly not as accurately
as the big boys. I enjoy all this tinkering, and it beats vacuuming
the house. If I screw it up badly then I'll take it in.

Rod

Rod wrote:[color=blue]
> This new Corolla had a tendency to drift slowly to the right or left
> on a straightaway. Being an incurable DIY, I measured the toe-in with[/color]

Reverse the left / right tires F&R and see if the problem moves.