radial pull

Ernie Sty wrote:[color=blue]
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37ukjsF5i6d89U1@individual.net...
>[color=green]
>> Questions:
>> What causes a radial pull?
>> Well it help if I move the tire to the back?
>> What tires do you recommend for 2000 Sienna LE?[/color]
>
>
> Some info that might be helpful:
> [url]http://www.alldata.com/techtips/2001/20010801e.html[/url][/color]

I read that already. It doesn't really answer my first two questions.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37ukjsF5i6d89U1@individual.net...[color=blue]
> My recently bought 2000 Sienna came with Douglas Touring tires that are
> rather new. I never heard of them before but I guess that means nothing.
> Anyway, the van was pulling to the right and after an alignment the dealer
> tells me the tire has a radial pull. Other than the pull they ride okay.
> They diagnosed that after doing the alignment and then moving the tire to
> the other side. They charged me for the alignment and that pissed me off.
>
> Questions:
> What causes a radial pull?
> Well it help if I move the tire to the back?
> What tires do you recommend for 2000 Sienna LE?
>[/color]

"Radial pull" is a catch-all phrase used to describe the condition where a
tire rolls to the left or right rather than in a straight line. When
describing the tendency for a vehicle to move to the left or right, it is
described as "pull," not push.

Many things can cause the tire pull. If one tire shoulder has more rolling
resistance than the other shoulder, then the tire will pull towards the side
with less resistance. If the belts in the tire are not oriented properly,
it can pull. Uneven tread wear can theoretically cause pull.

Tire pull is sometimes less noticeable on the back than on the front so it
is certainly worth a try to put the offending tire on the back.

The shop that checked your alignment should give you a printout with before
and after alignment specifications so you should make sure that the "after"
printout is within the specifications listed.

As far as recommended tires, some posters recommend checking BBB, the
attorney general, doing background checks, etc. Dealership service
departments receive customer satisfaction ratings and I spent a lot of time
evaluating dealership service departments when I worked for Toyota. Even
without looking at all the reports, I could tell which dealers had good
scores and which ones had poor scores just by hanging around the cashier and
service advisor's desks when people came by to pick up their cars. Some
places always seem to have customers complaining or questioning something,
while some have customers who just thank the people who worked on their car.

When I need tires on my personal cars, I go to a reputable tire store and
buy a name brand tire that's on sale. I have not had personal good luck
with Firestone tires but have had good luck with Goodyear, Dunlop,
Bridgestone, Toyo, Michelin, Pirelli, General, Cooper, etc.
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Ray O
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badgolferman wrote:
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> My recently bought 2000 Sienna came with Douglas Touring tires that are
> rather new. I never heard of them before but I guess that means nothing.
> Anyway, the van was pulling to the right and after an alignment the dealer
> tells me the tire has a radial pull. Other than the pull they ride okay.
> They diagnosed that after doing the alignment and then moving the tire to
> the other side. They charged me for the alignment and that pissed me off.
>
> Questions:
> What causes a radial pull?
> Well it help if I move the tire to the back?
> What tires do you recommend for 2000 Sienna LE?
>
>
>[/color]

An educated comsumer is the best comsumer:

goto
[url]http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/ownersmanual.jsp[/url]

look in the window that says "Additional Tire Tech Articles"

read - become educated and minimize your chances are getting ripped off.

This site has more information on tires than you would ever want to know.

Question #3 - we have a 1999 Sienna and we are very happy with the
Dunlop Sport A2. We have Michelin Arctic Alpins for winter use.
Just remember to drive appropriately. Some people have complained about
how their Sienna does not handle like their Supra. Would you want to
guess why the Sienna would not handle like a Supra? Its just alittle too
obvious . . . here's your sign!

> "Radial pull" is a catch-all phrase used to describe the condition[color=blue]
> where a tire rolls to the left or right rather than in a straight
> line. When describing the tendency for a vehicle to move to the left
> or right, it is described as "pull," not push.
>
> Many things can cause the tire pull. If one tire shoulder has more
> rolling resistance than the other shoulder, then the tire will pull
> towards the side with less resistance. If the belts in the tire are
> not oriented properly, it can pull. Uneven tread wear can
> theoretically cause pull.
>
> Tire pull is sometimes less noticeable on the back than on the front
> so it is certainly worth a try to put the offending tire on the back.
>[/color]

I think I'll do that.
[color=blue]
> The shop that checked your alignment should give you a printout with
> before and after alignment specifications so you should make sure
> that the "after" printout is within the specifications listed.
>[/color]

They did and it is.
[color=blue]
> As far as recommended tires, some posters recommend checking BBB, the
> attorney general, doing background checks, etc. Dealership service
> departments receive customer satisfaction ratings and I spent a lot
> of time evaluating dealership service departments when I worked for
> Toyota. Even without looking at all the reports, I could tell which
> dealers had good scores and which ones had poor scores just by
> hanging around the cashier and service advisor's desks when people
> came by to pick up their cars. Some places always seem to have
> customers complaining or questioning something, while some have
> customers who just thank the people who worked on their car.
>[/color]

I don't buy tires from the dealer either. Last time I got them from Tire
Rack, but I may try local store again this time.
[color=blue]
> When I need tires on my personal cars, I go to a reputable tire store
> and buy a name brand tire that's on sale. I have not had personal
> good luck with Firestone tires but have had good luck with Goodyear,
> Dunlop, Bridgestone, Toyo, Michelin, Pirelli, General, Cooper, etc.[/color]

I have not had good tires from Firestone, Goodyear, Futura (Kelly?), General
or Dunlop. I do like Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli. I might try Cooper
this time. However, I was more interested in the actual model of tires for
this van than the brand.

Thank you Roy, that was an informative post.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37vcpeF5ik199U1@individual.net...[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Radial pull" is a catch-all phrase used to describe the condition
>> where a tire rolls to the left or right rather than in a straight
>> line. When describing the tendency for a vehicle to move to the left
>> or right, it is described as "pull," not push.
>>
>> Many things can cause the tire pull. If one tire shoulder has more
>> rolling resistance than the other shoulder, then the tire will pull
>> towards the side with less resistance. If the belts in the tire are
>> not oriented properly, it can pull. Uneven tread wear can
>> theoretically cause pull.
>>
>> Tire pull is sometimes less noticeable on the back than on the front
>> so it is certainly worth a try to put the offending tire on the back.
>>[/color]
>
> I think I'll do that.
>[color=green]
>> The shop that checked your alignment should give you a printout with
>> before and after alignment specifications so you should make sure
>> that the "after" printout is within the specifications listed.
>>[/color]
>
> They did and it is.
>[color=green]
>> As far as recommended tires, some posters recommend checking BBB, the
>> attorney general, doing background checks, etc. Dealership service
>> departments receive customer satisfaction ratings and I spent a lot
>> of time evaluating dealership service departments when I worked for
>> Toyota. Even without looking at all the reports, I could tell which
>> dealers had good scores and which ones had poor scores just by
>> hanging around the cashier and service advisor's desks when people
>> came by to pick up their cars. Some places always seem to have
>> customers complaining or questioning something, while some have
>> customers who just thank the people who worked on their car.
>>[/color]
>
> I don't buy tires from the dealer either. Last time I got them from Tire
> Rack, but I may try local store again this time.
>[color=green]
>> When I need tires on my personal cars, I go to a reputable tire store
>> and buy a name brand tire that's on sale. I have not had personal
>> good luck with Firestone tires but have had good luck with Goodyear,
>> Dunlop, Bridgestone, Toyo, Michelin, Pirelli, General, Cooper, etc.[/color]
>
> I have not had good tires from Firestone, Goodyear, Futura (Kelly?),
> General
> or Dunlop. I do like Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli. I might try Cooper
> this time. However, I was more interested in the actual model of tires
> for
> this van than the brand.
>
> Thank you Roy, that was an informative post.
>[/color]
You're welcome!
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Ray O
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