It's getting tougher and tougher to be a Toyota employee

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:46:12 -0600, Ray O wrote:
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> A friend that I used to work with at Toyota's Boston regional office came to
> visit us this past weekend so we could go to the Chicago Auto Show.
>
> He was lamenting the fact that they now had to keep their company cars for 2
> years or 30,000 miles and that they had to order them 3 or 4 months in
> advance! Back in the good old days, we got new cars every 6 months or 6,000
> miles, whichever came first, with about a month's lead time to order. When
> I was driving 1,000 miles a week, that was a new car every 6 weeks or 7 or 8
> cars a year. Although it was a pain to clean all our stuff out of the cars
> and transfer it to another car every 6 weeks, it was nice to be able to
> order cars for the season, Celicas in the summer, 4Runners or 4WD vans in
> the winter, pickups during home improvement projects, etc.
>
> The company car policy changed during the 80's and we had to keep them for
> 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever came first, meaning we had to go
> through all the bother of cleaning out one car and transferring all our
> stuff only half as often. Since we were keeping cars for 3 or 4 months, we
> had to start planning ahead for seasonal weather.
>
> Now they have to keep the cars for 2 years!
>
> Hmmm, I do miss having the cars, maintenance, gas, insurance, etc. all paid
> for, even if we had to keep it for 2 whole years ;-)[/color]

Ray, tell your friend my heart bleeds for him! ;)
Ya know, if he's so fed up he's had it, let me know...I would gladly work
for Toyota, even if I had to keep a new car for two whole years!

Can a Toyota employee get a Land Cruiser?


"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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> A friend that I used to work with at Toyota's Boston regional office came[/color]
to[color=blue]
> visit us this past weekend so we could go to the Chicago Auto Show.
>
> He was lamenting the fact that they now had to keep their company cars for[/color]
2[color=blue]
> years or 30,000 miles and that they had to order them 3 or 4 months in
> advance! Back in the good old days, we got new cars every 6 months or[/color]
6,000[color=blue]
> miles, whichever came first, with about a month's lead time to order.[/color]
When[color=blue]
> I was driving 1,000 miles a week, that was a new car every 6 weeks or 7 or[/color]
8[color=blue]
> cars a year. Although it was a pain to clean all our stuff out of the[/color]
cars[color=blue]
> and transfer it to another car every 6 weeks, it was nice to be able to
> order cars for the season, Celicas in the summer, 4Runners or 4WD vans in
> the winter, pickups during home improvement projects, etc.
>
> The company car policy changed during the 80's and we had to keep them for
> 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever came first, meaning we had to go
> through all the bother of cleaning out one car and transferring all our
> stuff only half as often. Since we were keeping cars for 3 or 4 months,[/color]
we[color=blue]
> had to start planning ahead for seasonal weather.
>
> Now they have to keep the cars for 2 years!
>
> Hmmm, I do miss having the cars, maintenance, gas, insurance, etc. all[/color]
paid[color=blue]
> for, even if we had to keep it for 2 whole years ;-)
> --
> Ray O
> correct the return address punctuation to reply
>
>[/color]

"hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:LJQSd.78841$QS5.27902@trndny06...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:46:12 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>> A friend that I used to work with at Toyota's Boston regional office came
>> to
>> visit us this past weekend so we could go to the Chicago Auto Show.
>>
>> He was lamenting the fact that they now had to keep their company cars
>> for 2
>> years or 30,000 miles and that they had to order them 3 or 4 months in
>> advance! Back in the good old days, we got new cars every 6 months or
>> 6,000
>> miles, whichever came first, with about a month's lead time to order.
>> When
>> I was driving 1,000 miles a week, that was a new car every 6 weeks or 7
>> or 8
>> cars a year. Although it was a pain to clean all our stuff out of the
>> cars
>> and transfer it to another car every 6 weeks, it was nice to be able to
>> order cars for the season, Celicas in the summer, 4Runners or 4WD vans in
>> the winter, pickups during home improvement projects, etc.
>>
>> The company car policy changed during the 80's and we had to keep them
>> for
>> 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever came first, meaning we had to go
>> through all the bother of cleaning out one car and transferring all our
>> stuff only half as often. Since we were keeping cars for 3 or 4 months,
>> we
>> had to start planning ahead for seasonal weather.
>>
>> Now they have to keep the cars for 2 years!
>>
>> Hmmm, I do miss having the cars, maintenance, gas, insurance, etc. all
>> paid
>> for, even if we had to keep it for 2 whole years ;-)[/color]
>
> Ray, tell your friend my heart bleeds for him! ;)
> Ya know, if he's so fed up he's had it, let me know...I would gladly work
> for Toyota, even if I had to keep a new car for two whole years!
>[/color]
LOL! I've been thinking about it too!
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

"Rick" <kfial00@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rbSSd.8471$Pz7.2521@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Can a Toyota employee get a Land Cruiser?
>[/color]
It depends on what you mean by "get" and what the employee's position is.
Toyota's company car, employee purchase, and employee lease policy changes
with a particular model's availability and position in the company.

Some employees get unlicensed/unregistered demos with dealer, distributor,
or manufacturer plates. These vehicles have never been titled and the
manufacturer's certificate of origin (CO) is held by Toyota. A dealer uses
the CO to get the state to issue the initial title on the vehicle. The
employees who get demos are primarily ones who call on dealers, and the demo
they are allowed to drive depends on their position.

Employees in related companies, like insurance, finance, material handling,
aircraft, etc. get company leases and have licensed and titled company cars.

With tenure or grade level, employees are allowed to purchase and/or lease a
limited number of new and used vehicles for their personal use. Again, what
is available to lease or purchase depends on vehicle availability.

Land Cruisers used to be excluded from company car service because of
limited availability although I had one for a company car for a while. My
territory was western MA at the time, and I got tired of having to fill it
up 2 or 3 times a day, every day I was on the road so I went back to my
usual winter demos, All-Trac Previas, 4Runners, and All-Trac Camrys.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:47:45 -0600, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:LJQSd.78841$QS5.27902@trndny06...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:46:12 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> A friend that I used to work with at Toyota's Boston regional office came
>>> to
>>> visit us this past weekend so we could go to the Chicago Auto Show.
>>>
>>> He was lamenting the fact that they now had to keep their company cars
>>> for 2
>>> years or 30,000 miles and that they had to order them 3 or 4 months in
>>> advance! Back in the good old days, we got new cars every 6 months or
>>> 6,000
>>> miles, whichever came first, with about a month's lead time to order.
>>> When
>>> I was driving 1,000 miles a week, that was a new car every 6 weeks or 7
>>> or 8
>>> cars a year. Although it was a pain to clean all our stuff out of the
>>> cars
>>> and transfer it to another car every 6 weeks, it was nice to be able to
>>> order cars for the season, Celicas in the summer, 4Runners or 4WD vans in
>>> the winter, pickups during home improvement projects, etc.
>>>
>>> The company car policy changed during the 80's and we had to keep them
>>> for
>>> 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever came first, meaning we had to go
>>> through all the bother of cleaning out one car and transferring all our
>>> stuff only half as often. Since we were keeping cars for 3 or 4 months,
>>> we
>>> had to start planning ahead for seasonal weather.
>>>
>>> Now they have to keep the cars for 2 years!
>>>
>>> Hmmm, I do miss having the cars, maintenance, gas, insurance, etc. all
>>> paid
>>> for, even if we had to keep it for 2 whole years ;-)[/color]
>>
>> Ray, tell your friend my heart bleeds for him! ;)
>> Ya know, if he's so fed up he's had it, let me know...I would gladly work
>> for Toyota, even if I had to keep a new car for two whole years!
>>[/color]
> LOL! I've been thinking about it too![/color]

Yeah, but I'm only 90 miles from Boston...

"hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:PM9Td.62792$8a6.33398@trndny09...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:47:45 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:LJQSd.78841$QS5.27902@trndny06...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:46:12 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend that I used to work with at Toyota's Boston regional office
>>>> came
>>>> to
>>>> visit us this past weekend so we could go to the Chicago Auto Show.
>>>>
>>>> He was lamenting the fact that they now had to keep their company cars
>>>> for 2
>>>> years or 30,000 miles and that they had to order them 3 or 4 months in
>>>> advance! Back in the good old days, we got new cars every 6 months or
>>>> 6,000
>>>> miles, whichever came first, with about a month's lead time to order.
>>>> When
>>>> I was driving 1,000 miles a week, that was a new car every 6 weeks or 7
>>>> or 8
>>>> cars a year. Although it was a pain to clean all our stuff out of the
>>>> cars
>>>> and transfer it to another car every 6 weeks, it was nice to be able to
>>>> order cars for the season, Celicas in the summer, 4Runners or 4WD vans
>>>> in
>>>> the winter, pickups during home improvement projects, etc.
>>>>
>>>> The company car policy changed during the 80's and we had to keep them
>>>> for
>>>> 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever came first, meaning we had to go
>>>> through all the bother of cleaning out one car and transferring all our
>>>> stuff only half as often. Since we were keeping cars for 3 or 4
>>>> months,
>>>> we
>>>> had to start planning ahead for seasonal weather.
>>>>
>>>> Now they have to keep the cars for 2 years!
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, I do miss having the cars, maintenance, gas, insurance, etc. all
>>>> paid
>>>> for, even if we had to keep it for 2 whole years ;-)
>>>
>>> Ray, tell your friend my heart bleeds for him! ;)
>>> Ya know, if he's so fed up he's had it, let me know...I would gladly
>>> work
>>> for Toyota, even if I had to keep a new car for two whole years!
>>>[/color]
>> LOL! I've been thinking about it too![/color]
>
> Yeah, but I'm only 90 miles from Boston...[/color]

You wouldn't have to drive to Boston, only Mansfield
--
Ray O
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>[/color]

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>[/color]
Back in the 80's my dealer used to let his top salesman of the month drive a
Supra. I had just purchased my dog slow 4 WD Tercel wagon and was getting
something done at the service dept. The salesman sees me and says to take
his Supra for an afternoon loaner while my car is being fixed. Anyway, not
being used to actually having an engine, I almost flipped it at the first
traffic light.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:07:34 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>Back in the 80's my dealer used to let his top salesman of the month drive a
>Supra. I had just purchased my dog slow 4 WD Tercel wagon and was getting
>something done at the service dept. The salesman sees me and says to take
>his Supra for an afternoon loaner while my car is being fixed. Anyway, not
>being used to actually having an engine, I almost flipped it at the first
>traffic light.[/color]

Art, Art, Art...

Rule #1: First you finish turning the corner at a moderate speed,
THEN you romp on the gas. Much less unexpected excitement that way.

Been there, Been sideways...

--<< Bruce >>--

--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.

"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:eq20215rkoko2ptg9pa2ngjge1nrrpkqnb@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:07:34 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Back in the 80's my dealer used to let his top salesman of the month drive
>>a
>>Supra. I had just purchased my dog slow 4 WD Tercel wagon and was getting
>>something done at the service dept. The salesman sees me and says to take
>>his Supra for an afternoon loaner while my car is being fixed. Anyway,
>>not
>>being used to actually having an engine, I almost flipped it at the first
>>traffic light.[/color]
>
> Art, Art, Art...
>
> Rule #1: First you finish turning the corner at a moderate speed,
> THEN you romp on the gas. Much less unexpected excitement that way.
>
> Been there, Been sideways...
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>
> --
> Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
> Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
> 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
> Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.[/color]

Well, I think Art has never ridden a bicycle. . . . I learned a long time
before I had a license when to start 'gunning it' coming out of a corner. I
held the neighborhood timed record around a little course we had set up in a
vacant lot. And I had a 26 inch Schwinn Racer, all the other kids had 20
inch banana seat bikes that they should have been able to beat my socks off
with.

Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the tires,
the road. I hear and feel the engine.

Charles of Kankakee

Charles Fregeau wrote:
snip[color=blue]
> Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the
> tires, the road. I hear and feel the engine.
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

So you must be one of those who drives with a White Cane with a red tip
hanging out the window ... feeling for Bot's Dots ... and the one of those
who USES the Braille instructions at the drive-up ATM? :^)
--

- Philip

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
news:C6ZTd.20$wy3.3@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Charles Fregeau wrote:
> snip[color=green]
>> Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the
>> tires, the road. I hear and feel the engine.
>>
>> Charles of Kankakee[/color]
>
> So you must be one of those who drives with a White Cane with a red tip
> hanging out the window ... feeling for Bot's Dots ... and the one of those
> who USES the Braille instructions at the drive-up ATM? :^)
> --
>
> - Philip
>
>[/color]

No, I'm not legally blind yet. Unlike most liberals. I keep my eyes busy
looking around at all the goofuses on the road.

Charles of Kankakee

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:05:06 -0600, Charles Fregeau wrote:
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>
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
> news:C6ZTd.20$wy3.3@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Charles Fregeau wrote:
>> snip[color=darkred]
>>> Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the
>>> tires, the road. I hear and feel the engine.
>>>
>>> Charles of Kankakee[/color]
>>
>> So you must be one of those who drives with a White Cane with a red tip
>> hanging out the window ... feeling for Bot's Dots ... and the one of those
>> who USES the Braille instructions at the drive-up ATM? :^)
>> --
>>
>> - Philip
>>
>>[/color]
>
> No, I'm not legally blind yet. Unlike most liberals. I keep my eyes busy
> looking around at all the goofuses on the road.
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

I like skirts, myself...

"hachiroku" <levin@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:WPcUd.33609$ya6.28848@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:05:06 -0600, Charles Fregeau wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>> news:C6ZTd.20$wy3.3@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Charles Fregeau wrote:
>>> snip
>>>> Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the
>>>> tires, the road. I hear and feel the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Charles of Kankakee
>>>
>>> So you must be one of those who drives with a White Cane with a red tip
>>> hanging out the window ... feeling for Bot's Dots ... and the one of
>>> those
>>> who USES the Braille instructions at the drive-up ATM? :^)
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Philip
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> No, I'm not legally blind yet. Unlike most liberals. I keep my eyes
>> busy
>> looking around at all the goofuses on the road.
>>
>> Charles of Kankakee[/color]
>
> I like skirts, myself...[/color]

That's scary. I wear a kilt at the Renaissance Faire. I think I'm going to
change to pumpkin pants this year. . . .

Do you know why Maxwell Smart was Agent 86 and his girlfriend/wife was Agent
99?

Charles of Kankakee

I was going straight and apparently approaching the traffic light at a very
great speed. The front stopped long before the rear end did. Like I said,
I was used to a car that had a smaller engine than some riding lawn mowers.


"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:eq20215rkoko2ptg9pa2ngjge1nrrpkqnb@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:07:34 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Back in the 80's my dealer used to let his top salesman of the month drive
>>a
>>Supra. I had just purchased my dog slow 4 WD Tercel wagon and was getting
>>something done at the service dept. The salesman sees me and says to take
>>his Supra for an afternoon loaner while my car is being fixed. Anyway,
>>not
>>being used to actually having an engine, I almost flipped it at the first
>>traffic light.[/color]
>
> Art, Art, Art...
>
> Rule #1: First you finish turning the corner at a moderate speed,
> THEN you romp on the gas. Much less unexpected excitement that way.
>
> Been there, Been sideways...
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>
> --
> Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
> Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
> 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
> Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.[/color]

hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:05:06 -0600, Charles Fregeau wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.n0t> wrote in message
>> news:C6ZTd.20$wy3.3@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Charles Fregeau wrote:
>>> snip
>>>> Even today, I still drive partly by sense. I sense the vehicle, the
>>>> tires, the road. I hear and feel the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Charles of Kankakee
>>>
>>> So you must be one of those who drives with a White Cane with a red tip
>>> hanging out the window ... feeling for Bot's Dots ... and the one of those
>>> who USES the Braille instructions at the drive-up ATM? :^)
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Philip
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> No, I'm not legally blind yet. Unlike most liberals. I keep my eyes busy
>> looking around at all the goofuses on the road.
>>
>> Charles of Kankakee[/color]
>
>I like skirts, myself...[/color]

...I do too when they're worn by women with good legs...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)