I'd like to meet the designer of the 2000 Sienna...

Some of the 4WD Yotas are worse. You could add an oil filter relocation
kit --- spins onto old filter mount and relocates new filter foot or so
away.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dz07w38c4w1x000@news.individual.net...[color=blue]
> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
> and motor mount.
>
> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?
>
> --
> No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too seriously.[/color]

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:54:41 +0000, badgolferman wrote:
[color=blue]
> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
> and motor mount.
>
> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?[/color]

I don't know about that, but I always wanted to punch the nose of the
designer that did the same thing with the filter on my 'Rolla GTS. Pretty
much the same location. And the exhaust manifold stays HOT for a LONG time
after you turn the engine off!

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:13:04 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:54:41 +0000, badgolferman wrote:
>[color=green]
>> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
>> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
>> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
>> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
>> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
>> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
>> and motor mount.
>>
>> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?[/color]
>
>I don't know about that, but I always wanted to punch the nose of the
>designer that did the same thing with the filter on my 'Rolla GTS. Pretty
>much the same location. And the exhaust manifold stays HOT for a LONG time
>after you turn the engine off![/color]

I can symphatize. The Gen I MR2's oil filter is poorly located as
well. I hate changing the oil on my 88. It's definately a job for
when the engine is cold only.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:11:53 -0500, Viperkiller wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 04:13:04 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:54:41 +0000, badgolferman wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
>>> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
>>> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
>>> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
>>> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
>>> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
>>> and motor mount.
>>>
>>> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?[/color]
>>
>>I don't know about that, but I always wanted to punch the nose of the
>>designer that did the same thing with the filter on my 'Rolla GTS. Pretty
>>much the same location. And the exhaust manifold stays HOT for a LONG time
>>after you turn the engine off![/color]
>
> I can symphatize. The Gen I MR2's oil filter is poorly located as
> well. I hate changing the oil on my 88. It's definately a job for
> when the engine is cold only.[/color]

Same engine. 4A-GE 1.6 DOHC (That's pronounced 'doohickey', BTW ;)

At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart!

I bet my wife's knuckle marks are STILL embeeded in the dash!

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart![/color]

It's been done - standard racing kart frame, Honda CB-750 Four. If
I had one of those motors, I'd be sorely tempted to stuff it in my
Odyssey FL350... ;-)

--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.

Wolfgang wrote:
[color=blue]
> Some of the 4WD Yotas are worse. You could add an oil filter
> relocation kit --- spins onto old filter mount and relocates new
> filter foot or so away.
>[/color]

I'm not sure I would want to do that, but since you bring it up how
would such a device affect the oil pressure and distribution? Are they
safe for today's engines?

--
No matter what happens, someone will find a way to take it too
seriously.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dz07w38c4w1x000@news.individual.net...[color=blue]
> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
> and motor mount.
>
> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?[/color]

Easy. Pay $19.99 for Toyota dealer to do it for me.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:11:53 -0500, Viperkiller wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> I can symphatize. The Gen I MR2's oil filter is poorly located as
>> well. I hate changing the oil on my 88. It's definately a job for
>> when the engine is cold only.[/color]
>
>Same engine. 4A-GE 1.6 DOHC (That's pronounced 'doohickey', BTW ;)[/color]

Yes, it's the same engine...except mine is the 4A-GZE.
[color=blue]
>
>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart!
>
>I bet my wife's knuckle marks are STILL embeeded in the dash![/color]

Very funny!

My wife has learned to stop getting on my case with the speed in which
I drive. I, on the other hand, have learned to keep it under 3 digits
when the wife and kids are in the car. :-)

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:38:35 -0500, Viperkiller wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:11:53 -0500, Viperkiller wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I can symphatize. The Gen I MR2's oil filter is poorly located as
>>> well. I hate changing the oil on my 88. It's definately a job for
>>> when the engine is cold only.[/color]
>>
>>Same engine. 4A-GE 1.6 DOHC (That's pronounced 'doohickey', BTW ;)[/color]
>
> Yes, it's the same engine...except mine is the 4A-GZE.[/color]

Turbocharged? I couldn't even imagine it!!!
What's the BHP rating on that one?

So, you have a Trueno SR-5, a Trueno (or Levin) GT-S AND a Turbo MR-2?

You're just saying all this to make me jealous, right? It's working BTW. ;)
Another 4A-Gxx Fan! Cool!
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart!
>>
>>I bet my wife's knuckle marks are STILL embeeded in the dash![/color]
>
> Very funny!
>
> My wife has learned to stop getting on my case with the speed in which
> I drive. I, on the other hand, have learned to keep it under 3 digits
> when the wife and kids are in the car. :-)[/color]

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:26:04 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart![/color]
>
> It's been done - standard racing kart frame, Honda CB-750 Four. If
> I had one of those motors, I'd be sorely tempted to stuff it in my
> Odyssey FL350... ;-)
>
> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]

That was an excellent motor in an excellent bike. I only rode one once,
but what a ride!!! That was one cool bike.

I have seen 125 and 250 carts, I couldn't even imagine a 750-4 kart!!!

almost $10 more here plus the environmental hazzard fees and having to make
an appoint ment and wait several housrs.

"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
news:1126c9eqtv431a2@news.supernews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0dz07w38c4w1x000@news.individual.net...[color=green]
>> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
>> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
>> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
>> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
>> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
>> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
>> and motor mount.
>>
>> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?[/color]
>
> Easy. Pay $19.99 for Toyota dealer to do it for me.
>[/color]

If you keep the oil line runs short and at same or lower level than the
original filter then no problems. You have to be careful where you place
the remote filter so it isn't too low or where it might get kit with flying
debris. Another advantage is a bigger filter can be used so you get greater
oil capacity - by maybe a quart.

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dz1caxfs665c000@news.individual.net...[color=blue]
> Wolfgang wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Some of the 4WD Yotas are worse. You could add an oil filter
>> relocation kit --- spins onto old filter mount and relocates new
>> filter foot or so away.
>>[/color]
>
> I'm not sure I would want to do that, but since you bring it up how
> would such a device affect the oil pressure and distribution? Are they
> safe for today's engines?
>
> --
> No matter what happens, someone will find a way to take it too
> seriously.[/color]

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:27:58 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:26:04 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>>>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart![/color]
>>
>> It's been done - standard racing kart frame, Honda CB-750 Four. If
>> I had one of those motors, I'd be sorely tempted to stuff it in my
>> Odyssey FL350... ;-)
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]
>
>That was an excellent motor in an excellent bike. I only rode one once,
>but what a ride!!! That was one cool bike.
>
>I have seen 125 and 250 carts, I couldn't even imagine a 750-4 kart!!![/color]

That CB 750 was a dream for me! I just loved the way those four pipes
came out and curved up!

Went to the local Honda shop back sometime around '79....with my CB
360T for service. While they were servicing my bike I went into the
showroom and the owner asked me if I was the owner of the 'cherry'
360...and I said yup.

A kid about 18 was drooling over a 750...and the owner asked ME if I
wanted to take it out...

Of course I did!

I brought it back after only 3 miles...and told Hap the owner...'I
couldn't drive it another block or I WOULD OWN IT! He laffed and said
'That's the idea!!'.

I wish I had bought that bike :(

--
Scott in Florida

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 02:23:03 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
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> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:27:58 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:26:04 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:16:26 GMT, hachiroku <levin@ae86.gts> wrote:
>>>
>>>>At least MINE is in a normal engine bay!
>>>>My brother in law had one of those. Take 135HP and stuff it into a Go-Kart!
>>>
>>> It's been done - standard racing kart frame, Honda CB-750 Four. If
>>> I had one of those motors, I'd be sorely tempted to stuff it in my
>>> Odyssey FL350... ;-)
>>>
>>> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]
>>
>>That was an excellent motor in an excellent bike. I only rode one once,
>>but what a ride!!! That was one cool bike.
>>
>>I have seen 125 and 250 carts, I couldn't even imagine a 750-4 kart!!![/color]
>
> That CB 750 was a dream for me! I just loved the way those four pipes
> came out and curved up!
>
> Went to the local Honda shop back sometime around '79....with my CB
> 360T for service. While they were servicing my bike I went into the
> showroom and the owner asked me if I was the owner of the 'cherry'
> 360...and I said yup.
>
> A kid about 18 was drooling over a 750...and the owner asked ME if I
> wanted to take it out...
>
> Of course I did!
>
> I brought it back after only 3 miles...and told Hap the owner...'I
> couldn't drive it another block or I WOULD OWN IT! He laffed and said
> 'That's the idea!!'.
>
> I wish I had bought that bike :(
>
> --
> Scott in Florida[/color]

The 750 was a great machine. Broke Honda out of the mode of 'funky little
bikes'.

But, the 360 was nothing to sneeze at either. It was a great little bike,
easily manuvered, definitely economical, and like all of those 'early'
Hondas, a blast to ride. I knew a kid that had a 305. He dove off a
covered brigde and then couldn't move from the neck down. I wanted to ask
him about his bike, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

The Highlander is the same way. What I do is stuff a lot of rags or
paper towels under the filter and as close to the front of the engine as
I can. It catches most of the oil. I also found out that a box of
latex gloves sold at Sams is a good deal for working on the car or
around the oil. It keeps your hands clean. Other than stuffing the
rags under the filter before removing it ---I don't know another
solution. Anyone else have a good idea ???????

PS: Please don't say pay to have it changed--I'd rather do it myself to
know it's done right !!!!!!



badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> ...in a dark alley somewhere. I changed the oil today for the first
> time and what a mess it was! The placement of that oil filter is
> ridiculous. It's right in between the motor mount and the heat shield.
> There's absolutely no room to get any kind of wrench other than a cap
> fitting one in there. Even when you get it loose the threads are so
> long that by the time you get it off there is oil all over the frame
> and motor mount.
>
> How do others get that filter offwithout a mess?
>[/color]