Oil company reports record high profits thanks to GWB

Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.

Typical. Fucking typical.
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> Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax[color=blue]
> breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>
> Typical. Fucking typical.
> --[/color]
Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same break
to hummers. That loophole has been closed.

So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
oil companies? He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
supply and decrease prices. But the Dems have opposed that at every turn. So
blame the left wing for high oil prices.

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:aLidnYovZJZAWMzfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> > Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
> > breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
> >
> > Typical. Fucking typical.
> > --[/color]
> Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
> was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same[/color]
break[color=blue]
> to hummers. That loophole has been closed.[/color]

You're right about the loophole, I believe there was some sort of break on
taxes that went along with that loophole, though.
[color=blue]
> So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
> oil companies? He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
> supply and decrease prices. But the Dems have opposed that at every turn.[/color]
So[color=blue]
> blame the left wing for high oil prices.[/color]

Way off base here. The left has been pushing for restrictions on SUV gas
guzzlers but the Right so far has refused to push the issue, with the
exception of a hand full of reps. If you wanted to actually clean up the air
and pay less at the pump this is your solution, something the auto makers
are more than capable of but are just now being forced to proceed with
because of basically greed, Toyota has been one of the few automakers really
pushing for higher standards.

Even Cheney has confessed that CAFE standards have been a success. The Bush
administration is directly responsible for preventing the higher CAFE
standards, hoping that the NAS panel will prevent this, which is full of
former Mobil and Shell officials. The conversion would provide the savings
of over 1 million barrels of gas per day, that's 4 times as much as drilling
anywhere in the US /and/ a permanent solution unlike drilling in the artic
with the benefit of cleaning up the air.

The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge's 19 million acres comprise one of the
last places on earth where an intact expanse of arctic and sub arctic lands
remains protected.
a.. Drilling in the Arctic Refuge can't make even a small dent in meeting
America's energy needs. U.S. Geological Survey scientists estimate that
there is very likely only enough oil to supply America's needs for six
months. And oil companies admit that, even that, won't be available for at
least 10 years.
a.. An irreplaceable natural treasure, the Arctic Refuge is home to caribou,
polar bears, grizzly bears, wolves, golden eagles, snow geese and more.
Millions of other birds use the Arctic Refuge to nest and as a critical
staging area on their migratory journeys.
a.. Of course, the Arctic Refuge supports more than wildlife. For a thousand
generations, the Gwich'in people of Northeast Alaska and Northwest Canada
have depended on it and lived in harmony with it. To them, the Arctic
Coastal Plain is sacred ground.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:55:38 -0600, "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
>> breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>>
>> Typical. Fucking typical.
>> --[/color]
>Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
>was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same break
>to hummers. That loophole has been closed.[/color]

Actually, that's false. According to the Energy Information
Administration in the Department of Energy, the $25,000 tax write-off
for a Hummer (10mpg) will remain while the $2000 tax credit fo bying a
hybrid vehhicle that can get more than 50mpg will be phased out.
[color=blue]
>So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
>oil companies?[/color]

He sets the policies. He's the president. Or did you forget that? He
decides reserves, he decides to go to war with countries that weren't
a threat to us (aka killing our soldiers for no good reason).

[color=blue]
>He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
>supply and decrease prices.[/color]

As has been pointed out several times, the North Alaska drill will do
little to help the problem.
[color=blue]
>But the Dems have opposed that at every turn. So
>blame the left wing for high oil prices.[/color]

Nice try. They're not the ones with stakes in oil companies, among
other big businesses. Bush/Cheney are.

Aren't you even curious as to why Bush isn't complaining about the
high oil prices?
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:27:54 -0400, "Josh"
<nospam@anywherebutrightoverthere.net> wrote:

[color=blue]
>Way off base here. The left has been pushing for restrictions on SUV gas
>guzzlers but the Right so far has refused to push the issue, with the
>exception of a hand full of reps.[/color]

ROFL

You lefties believe in 'freedom'...right?

ROFL

Josh

Your left ism shows thru...


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"Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
news:9pj3511vq02k32em6iqsvhv1n6upubcdpf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:27:54 -0400, "Josh"
> <nospam@anywherebutrightoverthere.net> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
> >Way off base here. The left has been pushing for restrictions on SUV gas
> >guzzlers but the Right so far has refused to push the issue, with the
> >exception of a hand full of reps.[/color]
>
> ROFL[/color]

giggling school girl again.
[color=blue]
>
> You lefties believe in 'freedom'...right?[/color]

You can't even make sense.
[color=blue]
> ROFL[/color]

giggling school girl again!
[color=blue]
> Josh
>
> Your left ism shows thru...[/color]

Your moronic noecon ways show through, congrats.

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:36:08 GMT, Scott in Florida
<NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:27:54 -0400, "Josh"
><nospam@anywherebutrightoverthere.net> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Way off base here. The left has been pushing for restrictions on SUV gas
>>guzzlers but the Right so far has refused to push the issue, with the
>>exception of a hand full of reps.[/color]
>
>ROFL
>
>You lefties believe in 'freedom'...right?
>
>ROFL[/color]

Republican On Floor Losing.


Still haven't seen your apology to Josh for an inability to descern
facts.
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Gary L. Burnore wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:55:38 -0600, "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
>>>breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>>>
>>>Typical. Fucking typical.
>>>--
>>>[/color]
>>Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
>>was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same break
>>to hummers. That loophole has been closed.
>>[/color]
>
> Actually, that's false. According to the Energy Information
> Administration in the Department of Energy, the $25,000 tax write-off
> for a Hummer (10mpg) will remain while the $2000 tax credit fo bying a
> hybrid vehhicle that can get more than 50mpg will be phased out.
>
>[color=green]
>>So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
>>oil companies?
>>[/color]
>
> He sets the policies. He's the president. Or did you forget that? He
> decides reserves, he decides to go to war with countries that weren't
> a threat to us (aka killing our soldiers for no good reason).
>
>
>[color=green]
>>He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
>>supply and decrease prices.
>>[/color]
>
> As has been pointed out several times, the North Alaska drill will do
> little to help the problem.
>
>[color=green]
>>But the Dems have opposed that at every turn. So
>>blame the left wing for high oil prices.
>>[/color]
>
> Nice try. They're not the ones with stakes in oil companies, among
> other big businesses. Bush/Cheney are.
>
> Aren't you even curious as to why Bush isn't complaining about the
> high oil prices?
>[/color]

Gary - no one is forcing you to buy a Hummer. Why don't you do
something positive? Lead by example, show us how to save the planet by
setting an example.

I will start - I telecomute from home three days a week - saving 180
miles a week of driving. I work in the office the other three days :-(
Yes, this means I work 6 days a week on salary. I am doing my part in
saving gas and helping the productivity of the nation!

Your turn Gary . . .

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:57:02 -0400, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:55:38 -0600, "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
>>>>breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>>>>
>>>>Typical. Fucking typical.
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
>>>was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same break
>>>to hummers. That loophole has been closed.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Actually, that's false. According to the Energy Information
>> Administration in the Department of Energy, the $25,000 tax write-off
>> for a Hummer (10mpg) will remain while the $2000 tax credit fo bying a
>> hybrid vehhicle that can get more than 50mpg will be phased out.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
>>>oil companies?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> He sets the policies. He's the president. Or did you forget that? He
>> decides reserves, he decides to go to war with countries that weren't
>> a threat to us (aka killing our soldiers for no good reason).
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
>>>supply and decrease prices.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> As has been pointed out several times, the North Alaska drill will do
>> little to help the problem.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>But the Dems have opposed that at every turn. So
>>>blame the left wing for high oil prices.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Nice try. They're not the ones with stakes in oil companies, among
>> other big businesses. Bush/Cheney are.
>>
>> Aren't you even curious as to why Bush isn't complaining about the
>> high oil prices?
>>[/color]
>
>Gary - no one is forcing you to buy a Hummer.[/color]

No one is stopping people from wasting money by buying a hummer _AND_
getting a credit to do so. Someone is, however, taking away the
credit for people who would move away from our dependence on oil.
That someone is the current administration.

[color=blue]
>Why don't you do something positive? Lead by example, show us how to save the planet by
>setting an example.[/color]

[color=blue]
>I will start - I telecomute from home three days a week - saving 180
>miles a week of driving.[/color]

I work from home EVERY day. Saving LOTS of miles driving.
[color=blue]
>I work in the office the other three days :-(
>Yes, this means I work 6 days a week on salary. I am doing my part in
>saving gas and helping the productivity of the nation!
>
>Your turn Gary . . .[/color]

I already beat you with that one, but sure here's another: I recycle
everything I possibly can. Heh, the company that picks up the stuff
for our towm HATES our house.
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Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in
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[color=blue]
> Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
> breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>[/color]



There has not been a refinery built in the US since 1976. At least a couple
have even closed in the meantime. Demand continues to grow as the economy
and the population grows.

The main reasons for the lack of new refining capacity are environmental
regulations that make it nearly impossible to build, and NIMBY-ism by those
who live somewhere near where a proposed new refinery.

Since it is difficult to find refining capacity in the US, it is
increasingly common to have refided gasoline base stock imported by tanker,
rather that crude. Base stock sells for more than crude and carries a
higher margin.

The effect of all the above is to cause artificial shortages of gasoline,
with the attendant escalating prices that shortages cause.

In the 1970s, the shortages and high prices were caused by Nixon's price
controls. The shortages and high prices ended quite abruptly when Reagan
finally removed the price controls in 1982. These days, it's environmental
laws accomplishing exactly the same thing.

Economically, Bush has been one of the worse Presidents, but blaming Bush
for this is like blaming wet streets for making it rain.



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On 5 Apr 2005 00:08:50 GMT, "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in
>news:d2seou$l9a$2@dimpledchad.databasix.com:
>[color=green]
>> Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
>> breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>>[/color]
>
>
>
>There has not been a refinery built in the US since 1976. At least a couple
>have even closed in the meantime. Demand continues to grow as the economy
>and the population grows.[/color]

The ecomomy isn't growing.

[color=blue]
>The main reasons for the lack of new refining capacity are environmental
>regulations that make it nearly impossible to build, and NIMBY-ism by those
>who live somewhere near where a proposed new refinery.[/color]

Nearly? Hardly. The billions in profits could have been used to
build eco-friendly refineries. Better yet, the money could be used to
find better ways to run our economy. Instead, it lines the pockets
of bush supporters.

[color=blue]
>Since it is difficult to find refining capacity in the US, it is
>increasingly common to have refided gasoline base stock imported by tanker,
>rather that crude. Base stock sells for more than crude and carries a
>higher margin.[/color]

[color=blue]
>The effect of all the above is to cause artificial shortages of gasoline,
>with the attendant escalating prices that shortages cause.
>
>In the 1970s, the shortages and high prices were caused by Nixon's price
>controls. The shortages and high prices ended quite abruptly when Reagan
>finally removed the price controls in 1982. These days, it's environmental
>laws accomplishing exactly the same thing.
>
>Economically, Bush has been one of the worse Presidents, but blaming Bush
>for this is like blaming wet streets for making it rain.[/color]

Bush could do something. He won't. Yes, I blame Bush. He'd take the
credit were there any to take and you'd joyously assist.


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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:48:38 -0400, Gary L. Burnore
<gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>ROFL[/color]
>
>Republican On Floor Losing.[/color]

lol....yup you have it


Losing the house....oops...we won that....

Losing the senate....oops we won that....

and last but not least losing the presidency to John F'ing
Kerry....oops we won that one too.

Just where are we losers?

ROFL

Rolling on Floor Laffin at Liberals Losers!!!!!


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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:57:02 -0400, ma_twain <ma_twain@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:55:38 -0600, "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>Way to go Bush! Record profits for Oil companies and now cuts in tax
>>>>breaks for multi-fuel vehicles while keeping cuts for Hummer owners.
>>>>
>>>>Typical. Fucking typical.
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>Hummers do not get any tax breaks. That was a loophole in the tax law that
>>>was supposed to apply to trucks used in a business, but gave the same break
>>>to hummers. That loophole has been closed.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Actually, that's false. According to the Energy Information
>> Administration in the Department of Energy, the $25,000 tax write-off
>> for a Hummer (10mpg) will remain while the $2000 tax credit fo bying a
>> hybrid vehhicle that can get more than 50mpg will be phased out.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>So maybe you can explain exactly what Bush did to increase profits for the
>>>oil companies?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> He sets the policies. He's the president. Or did you forget that? He
>> decides reserves, he decides to go to war with countries that weren't
>> a threat to us (aka killing our soldiers for no good reason).
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>He wants to drill in Northern Alaska, which will increase
>>>supply and decrease prices.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> As has been pointed out several times, the North Alaska drill will do
>> little to help the problem.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>But the Dems have opposed that at every turn. So
>>>blame the left wing for high oil prices.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Nice try. They're not the ones with stakes in oil companies, among
>> other big businesses. Bush/Cheney are.
>>
>> Aren't you even curious as to why Bush isn't complaining about the
>> high oil prices?
>>[/color]
>
>Gary - no one is forcing you to buy a Hummer. Why don't you do
>something positive? Lead by example, show us how to save the planet by
>setting an example.
>
>I will start - I telecomute from home three days a week - saving 180
>miles a week of driving. I work in the office the other three days :-(
>Yes, this means I work 6 days a week on salary. I am doing my part in
>saving gas and helping the productivity of the nation!
>
>Your turn Gary . . .
>
>[/color]

Oh...boy this should be good...


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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:00:49 -0400, Gary L. Burnore
<gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:

[color=blue]
>I already beat you with that one, but sure here's another: I recycle
>everything I possibly can. Heh, the company that picks up the stuff
>for our towm HATES our house.[/color]

Our county is finding out that it takes more energy to recycle some
things than just putting them in the land fill.

Recycling is NOT the answer!


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"Scott in Florida" <NotInTheNextLifetime@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
news:6km351thp0pb8kdlmkahtb59amil0p4dfr@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:00:49 -0400, Gary L. Burnore
> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
> Our county is finding out that it takes more energy to recycle some
> things than just putting them in the land fill.
>
> Recycling is NOT the answer![/color]

It's not about the energy it takes to recycle, twit.