pickup, coil, origniter module?

I'm troubleshooting my little bros 88 corolla 4 cyl. It runs for a few
seconds then dies like it is running out of gas. But in actuality, there is
no spark but there is power going to the distributor. I'm thinkin' it could
be the coil, but it might be the pickup sensor or the module in there. Has
anybody had any experience with this sort of problem?

-jk

"jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm troubleshooting my little bros 88 corolla 4 cyl. It runs for a few
> seconds then dies like it is running out of gas. But in actuality, there
> is no spark but there is power going to the distributor. I'm thinkin' it
> could be the coil, but it might be the pickup sensor or the module in
> there. Has anybody had any experience with this sort of problem?
>
> -jk
>[/color]
A possibility is that some cars have a resistor that lowers the power to the
coil to extend the life of the ignition components. When cranking, the
resistor is bypassed to provide maximum spark energy. If the car has such a
resistor and it went bad, there will be spark only when cranking. The engine
will seem to start okay then die when the ignition switch is moved from
start to on.

Pat

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:51:29 GMT, "Greywolf"
<greywolfin45@*spamisbad*sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:f2m4e.7139$pU5.926@trnddc06...[color=green]
>> I'm troubleshooting my little bros 88 corolla 4 cyl. It runs for a few
>> seconds then dies like it is running out of gas. But in actuality, there
>> is no spark but there is power going to the distributor. I'm thinkin' it
>> could be the coil, but it might be the pickup sensor or the module in
>> there. Has anybody had any experience with this sort of problem?
>>
>> -jk
>>[/color]
>A possibility is that some cars have a resistor that lowers the power to the
>coil to extend the life of the ignition components. When cranking, the
>resistor is bypassed to provide maximum spark energy. If the car has such a
>resistor and it went bad, there will be spark only when cranking. The engine
>will seem to start okay then die when the ignition switch is moved from
>start to on.[/color]

Quite accurate. It could also be as simple as a fuse or as bad as the
TCU. (The computer)
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Car runs for about 5 to 20 seconds with key in "on", not "start". Then won't
start for another 10 min. No computer; vacuum + mechanical spark advance.
Its got 12V goin in so it's got to be the SENSOR PICKUP, COIL OR MODULE.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:39:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Car runs for about 5 to 20 seconds with key in "on", not "start". Then won't
>start for another 10 min. No computer; vacuum + mechanical spark advance.
>Its got 12V goin in so it's got to be the SENSOR PICKUP, COIL OR MODULE.[/color]

Replace the Coil. Want to be sure? Pack it in dry ice and see if it
lasts much longer before dying. Bet it does.
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Good idea! Thanks.

-jk
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> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:39:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Car runs for about 5 to 20 seconds with key in "on", not "start". Then
>>won't
>>start for another 10 min. No computer; vacuum + mechanical spark advance.
>>Its got 12V goin in so it's got to be the SENSOR PICKUP, COIL OR MODULE.[/color]
>
> Replace the Coil. Want to be sure? Pack it in dry ice and see if it
> lasts much longer before dying. Bet it does.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:15:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Good idea! Thanks.
>[/color]

Thank me by not top posting.

[color=blue]
>-jk
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>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:39:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Car runs for about 5 to 20 seconds with key in "on", not "start". Then
>>>won't
>>>start for another 10 min. No computer; vacuum + mechanical spark advance.
>>>Its got 12V goin in so it's got to be the SENSOR PICKUP, COIL OR MODULE.[/color]
>>
>> Replace the Coil. Want to be sure? Pack it in dry ice and see if it
>> lasts much longer before dying. Bet it does.
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The coil was bad. I don't know what top posting means.

-jk
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> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:15:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Good idea! Thanks.
>>[/color]
>
> Thank me by not top posting.
>
>[color=green]
>>-jk
>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>news:d2uf66$ffh$8@snarf.databasix.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:39:31 GMT, "jk" <imjkallday@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Car runs for about 5 to 20 seconds with key in "on", not "start". Then
>>>>won't
>>>>start for another 10 min. No computer; vacuum + mechanical spark
>>>>advance.
>>>>Its got 12V goin in so it's got to be the SENSOR PICKUP, COIL OR MODULE.
>>>
>>> Replace the Coil. Want to be sure? Pack it in dry ice and see if it
>>> lasts much longer before dying. Bet it does.
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