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Old 06-15-2005, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.


Statistics for alt.autos.toyota. 6/15/2005 10:27:03 PM

From article 317846 (6/1/2005 12:10:59 AM) to article 320667 (6/15/2005
10:17:35 PM)

Number of threads ................... 196
Number of articles .................. 2830
Average articles per thread ......... 14.44
Number of unanswered posts .......... 39 (probably all Toyota related)


Top Threads

Ranking Articles Subject
------- -------- ----------------------------
1 223 Re: OT - Was 'WMD', then 'Terrorist' now 'Iraqi
Civil War'
2 179 OT - Who's the moron?
3 142 OT Kerry the C Student!!!! ROFL
4 137 Re: OT - Way Past Due
5 122 Slightly OT: Oh Sh*t!!!
6 109 OT: Scott, Eric - look at *THIS*
7 72 OT - never listen to Amnesty International
8 70 Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help
(Hachiroku?)
9 69 OT New weapon should bring a bunch of terrorists to
desert temperature..
10 60 OT Wireless networking...questions
11 51 OT How to divert a hurricane...
12 50 OT: The Opinion Of Bush Keeps Going South
13 49 OT: Jackson gets off.
14 47 OT My Main Man Dean! This guy is great!!!!
15 46 OT - More Weirdness from the nuts on the right
16 43 toyota dealer adding $650 TAD to KBB listed dealer
invoice price (BS?)
17 43 Re: OT: The Judiciary: Senator Bill Frist[R,
Tennessee] Said Democrats Were Attempting to "Assassinate Judges"
18 39 Re: OT: The end of Common Sense
19 37 OT Gun Control
20 37 OT: Bob Dylan on 60 Minutes
21 35 OT Democrats just LOVE Dean....LOL

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Old 06-15-2005, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: just look at this list

On 16 Jun 2005 02:33:55 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
>group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
>you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out....WBMA


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Old 06-15-2005, 10:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, but we all have a deep underlying respect for Toyotas that binds
us together... except for Mike... and of course Josh, who isn't very
deep period

 
Old 06-15-2005, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:37:20 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
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> On 16 Jun 2005 02:33:55 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
>>group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
>>you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>
> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out....WBMA[/color]

HEY! Where have I heard THAT before??? ;)

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Old 06-15-2005, 10:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
> group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]

hahahah! Well the thing is, it IS an 'alt' Usegroup that is *unmoderated*
These posts are not taking up space preventing Toyota topics from being
posted. The only harm is some new users to the group will find them to be a
turn off and not participate in any discussion at all.

It's been said before, if you don't like them use your Newsreaders filters
to filter them out.


 
Old 06-15-2005, 10:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"Mark" <markpippin@email.com> wrote in message
news:1118890956.207826.117830@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Yeah, but we all have a deep underlying respect for Toyotas that binds
> us together... except for Mike... and of course Josh, who isn't very
> deep period[/color]

/Yeah, that was so deep of you/


 
Old 06-15-2005, 10:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
> group.[/color]

You need to read a bunch of other 'alt' groups before slamming this one.
Star Trek groups not only have a lot more OT posts, but also have way more
flame threads as well, which is a major reason I left (Not the OT, but the
flaming). And, this topic itself is also technically off-topic. If you'd
like to filter the OT stuff, I mentioned it on the last "You people post too
much off-topic" stuff thread.


You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how[color=blue]
> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]

So my posts about various stuff is 'garbage' too? I probably don't do as
much OT, but sometimes I share things that I think some here would find
interesting. Pardon me.[color=blue]
>
>
> Statistics for alt.autos.toyota. 6/15/2005 10:27:03 PM
>
> From article 317846 (6/1/2005 12:10:59 AM) to article 320667 (6/15/2005
> 10:17:35 PM)
>
> Number of threads ................... 196
> Number of articles .................. 2830
> Average articles per thread ......... 14.44
> Number of unanswered posts .......... 39 (probably all Toyota related)
>
>
> Top Threads
>
> Ranking Articles Subject
> ------- -------- ----------------------------
> 1 223 Re: OT - Was 'WMD', then 'Terrorist' now 'Iraqi
> Civil War'
> 2 179 OT - Who's the moron?
> 3 142 OT Kerry the C Student!!!! ROFL
> 4 137 Re: OT - Way Past Due
> 5 122 Slightly OT: Oh Sh*t!!!
> 6 109 OT: Scott, Eric - look at *THIS*
> 7 72 OT - never listen to Amnesty International
> 8 70 Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help
> (Hachiroku?)
> 9 69 OT New weapon should bring a bunch of terrorists to
> desert temperature..
> 10 60 OT Wireless networking...questions
> 11 51 OT How to divert a hurricane...
> 12 50 OT: The Opinion Of Bush Keeps Going South
> 13 49 OT: Jackson gets off.
> 14 47 OT My Main Man Dean! This guy is great!!!!
> 15 46 OT - More Weirdness from the nuts on the right
> 16 43 toyota dealer adding $650 TAD to KBB listed dealer
> invoice price (BS?)
> 17 43 Re: OT: The Judiciary: Senator Bill Frist[R,
> Tennessee] Said Democrats Were Attempting to "Assassinate Judges"
> 18 39 Re: OT: The end of Common Sense
> 19 37 OT Gun Control
> 20 37 OT: Bob Dylan on 60 Minutes
> 21 35 OT Democrats just LOVE Dean....LOL
>
> --
> No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too seriously.[/color]

Oh, the irony of that being your sig line. Clichéd as it is, life's too
short to get into a lather over the content of posts on Usenet. You would
spend your time much more constructively by jamming bamboo shoots up your
fingernails, honestly

What do you think will happen with this thread? I think I can guess

Natalie


 
Old 06-15-2005, 10:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
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>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
>> group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
>> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>
> hahahah! Well the thing is, it IS an 'alt' Usegroup that is *unmoderated*
> These posts are not taking up space preventing Toyota topics from being
> posted. The only harm is some new users to the group will find them to be a
> turn off and not participate in any discussion at all.
>
> It's been said before, if you don't like them use your Newsreaders filters
> to filter them out.
>
>[/color]
Yeah - *sigh* I wonder how many OT posts were generated by this sort of rant.

Natalie


 
Old 06-15-2005, 10:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:52:20 -0400, "Wickeddoll®"
<wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
>news:zbKcnb2qp_tDdi3fUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
>>> group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
>>> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>>
>> hahahah! Well the thing is, it IS an 'alt' Usegroup that is *unmoderated*
>> These posts are not taking up space preventing Toyota topics from being
>> posted. The only harm is some new users to the group will find them to be a
>> turn off and not participate in any discussion at all.
>>
>> It's been said before, if you don't like them use your Newsreaders filters
>> to filter them out.
>>
>>[/color]
>Yeah - *sigh* I wonder how many OT posts were generated by this sort of rant.
>
>Natalie
>[/color]

Don't come in our 'Cheers' and try to reform us....

We're having a good time and MOST of us put OT on OT posts...


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Old 06-15-2005, 11:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Scott in Florida wrote:[color=blue]
> On 16 Jun 2005 02:33:55 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
>> group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
>> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>
> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out....WBMA[/color]

Ya!


 
Old 06-16-2005, 05:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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> This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC[color=blue]
> group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
> you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]

I do or did belong to interest groups and, invariably, subjects of
discussions vary a lot.
Put a bunch of people together in the same room and they will talk politics,
religion, kids, the job, etc.
In this newsgroup, we are no different.
It is what I observed and it does not constitute an opinion.
JP


 
Old 06-16-2005, 06:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Scott in Florida, 6/15/2005, 10:37:20 PM,
<tdp1b19ptfsq1d4pi37uee45h5onumjlot@4ax.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 16 Jun 2005 02:33:55 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
> > group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
> > you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>
> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out....WBMA[/color]

Scott, you are the main instigator of all this useless babbling.
a.a.t. has become your personal chat room because you don't give a damn
about anyone else but yourself and getting attention. Act your age,
man.

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seriously.
 
Old 06-16-2005, 06:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Josh, 6/15/2005, 11:03:31 PM, <zbKcnb2qp_tDdi3fUSdV9g@ptd.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
> > This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
> > group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
> > you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.[/color]
>
> hahahah! Well the thing is, it IS an 'alt' Usegroup that is
> unmoderated These posts are not taking up space preventing Toyota
> topics from being posted. The only harm is some new users to the
> group will find them to be a turn off and not participate in any
> discussion at all.
>
> It's been said before, if you don't like them use your Newsreaders
> filters to filter them out.[/color]

This "unmoderated" argument is yet another excuse people use to justify
their behavior. The group has a name based upon the expected topics in
it. Moderated groups are necessary because trolls chase people away
for some sick sense of satisfaction they receive.

You say "the only harm is some new users to the group will not
participate". Don't you think that is a major problem? If there is no
new blood in this group then it will die the slow death it is
experiencing now. New people should be what you try to attract to
bring experience and help continue learning new things. The only thing
being taught here are political dissension, foul language, flaming, and
a bunch of stupid acronyms by people too lazy to type a word out.

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seriously.
 
Old 06-16-2005, 07:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Wickeddoll®, 6/15/2005, 11:51:40 PM,
<42b0f74b$0$4975$636a15ce@news.free.fr> wrote:
[color=blue]
> You need to read a bunch of other 'alt' groups before slamming this
> one. Star Trek groups not only have a lot more OT posts, but also
> have way more flame threads as well, which is a major reason I left
> (Not the OT, but the flaming). And, this topic itself is also
> technically off-topic. If you'd like to filter the OT stuff, I
> mentioned it on the last "You people post too much off-topic" stuff
> thread.[/color]

Just because someone else is doing something doesn't make it right.
There seems to be quite a few people complaining about the OT posts.
Also, this post is not OT because it is a discussion about the
alt.autos.toyota forum itself. It is a request for less politics and
more Toyotas. However if you disagree with that then so be it.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too
> > seriously.[/color]
>
> Oh, the irony of that being your sig line.[/color]

My point exactly. The political posters here are creating mountains
out of molehills and blocking the view of the serene valley.
[color=blue]
> What do you think will happen with this thread? I think I can guess[/color]

I think the same as with any other post requesting OT subjects be
limited. The problem people will say "Tough Shit", "Filter your
posts", "I like it like this", "Go somewhere else", etc. The others
will continue to drift away from this forum and let it die or become
like the other ones you have mentioned.

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Old 06-16-2005, 08:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Couldn't agree with you more. Seldom a response to a serious Toyota
question. Latest example: I asked if someone would be so kind as to check
to see what the part number is on the air flow meter sensor for a '90 Supra.
Only response was "Hey, it's dark outside. Maybe I'll check tomorrow"
which, surprisingly, didn't happen and whch, perhaps, led other posters to
think that my question had been answered. Between the foregoing, and the OT
posts you point out, I have come to the conclusion that there is little to
be gained by reading posts to this group. If I kill filed all the OT's I'd
probably be reading about 3 (maybe) Toyota posts a day. Let the flaming
begin------it doesn't matter.
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0e3jgaiopyq000@news.readfreenews.net...
This is pitiful. alt.autos.toyota is the epitome of an OFF TOPIC
group. You political hacks ought to be ashamed of yourself with how
you have polluted this once fine group with your garbage.


Statistics for alt.autos.toyota. 6/15/2005 10:27:03 PM

From article 317846 (6/1/2005 12:10:59 AM) to article 320667 (6/15/2005
10:17:35 PM)

Number of threads ................... 196
Number of articles .................. 2830
Average articles per thread ......... 14.44
Number of unanswered posts .......... 39 (probably all Toyota related)


Top Threads

Ranking Articles Subject
------- -------- ----------------------------
1 223 Re: OT - Was 'WMD', then 'Terrorist' now 'Iraqi
Civil War'
2 179 OT - Who's the moron?
3 142 OT Kerry the C Student!!!! ROFL
4 137 Re: OT - Way Past Due
5 122 Slightly OT: Oh Sh*t!!!
6 109 OT: Scott, Eric - look at *THIS*
7 72 OT - never listen to Amnesty International
8 70 Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help
(Hachiroku?)
9 69 OT New weapon should bring a bunch of terrorists to
desert temperature..
10 60 OT Wireless networking...questions
11 51 OT How to divert a hurricane...
12 50 OT: The Opinion Of Bush Keeps Going South
13 49 OT: Jackson gets off.
14 47 OT My Main Man Dean! This guy is great!!!!
15 46 OT - More Weirdness from the nuts on the right
16 43 toyota dealer adding $650 TAD to KBB listed dealer
invoice price (BS?)
17 43 Re: OT: The Judiciary: Senator Bill Frist[R,
Tennessee] Said Democrats Were Attempting to "Assassinate Judges"
18 39 Re: OT: The end of Common Sense
19 37 OT Gun Control
20 37 OT: Bob Dylan on 60 Minutes
21 35 OT Democrats just LOVE Dean....LOL

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No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too seriously.


 
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