Where's Nick T when ya need him (Technical Question...)

OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.

tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.

Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?


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The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...

"hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>
> tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
> Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>
> Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>
>
> --
> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...[/color]

Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to swap
heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the 2.7 making it
a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some of the block away for
the crank.

I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC to
DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want performance & less
rotating mass.

"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
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>
> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...[color=green]
> > OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
> >
> > tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
> > Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
> >
> > Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...[/color]
>
> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to swap
> heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the 2.7 making[/color]
it[color=blue]
> a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some of the block away for
> the crank.
>
> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC to
> DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want performance & less
> rotating mass.[/color]

More thoughts on this, you'll need the Harness, ECU or stand alone,
manifolds, TB, sensors and probably a few other things to get it running
right. What are you really after here? Do you need a new head? Performance?

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:37:52 -0400, Josh wrote:
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>
> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...[color=green]
>> OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>>
>> tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
>> Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>>
>> Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...[/color]
>
> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to swap
> heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the 2.7 making it
> a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some of the block away for
> the crank.
>
> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC to
> DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want performance & less
> rotating mass.[/color]

2.7 won't fit. I'm somewhat mechanically declined, and aside from having
to fabricate motor mounts, etc, and rewiring, the headswap is the easiest
way to get some cheap performance. The 2.7's are fairly readily available
in the junkyards, and we're taling a 20 YO car that's starting to rust at
an alarming rate.


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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:45:51 -0400, Josh wrote:
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>
> "Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
> news:ZqWcnbEatZamUi7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...[color=darkred]
>> > OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>> >
>> > tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
>> > Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>> >
>> > Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...[/color]
>>
>> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to swap
>> heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the 2.7 making[/color]
> it[color=green]
>> a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some of the block away for
>> the crank.
>>
>> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC to
>> DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want performance & less
>> rotating mass.[/color]
>
> More thoughts on this, you'll need the Harness, ECU or stand alone,
> manifolds, TB, sensors and probably a few other things to get it running
> right. What are you really after here? Do you need a new head? Performance?[/color]

No, the engine's fine. I figure about a 15-25HP boost from a DOHC for
cheap $$$ and an afternoon in the backyard. THe engine was rated for 155HP
(91 truck w/proper ECU, etc) the Celica beathes better but I'm using the
'85 ECU, so I probably gained about 5 HP over stock (there is a noticeable
difference) so if an easy-breathing head can get me 10 more or so, that
puts me to 155-170; just fine for this car.

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"hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:45:51 -0400, Josh wrote:
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> >
> > "Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
> > news:ZqWcnbEatZamUi7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> >> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...
> >> > OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
> >> >
> >> > tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
> >> > Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
> >> >
> >> > Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
> >>
> >> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to swap
> >> heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the 2.7[/color][/color][/color]
making[color=blue][color=green]
> > it[color=darkred]
> >> a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some of the block away[/color][/color][/color]
for[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> the crank.
> >>
> >> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC to
> >> DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want performance &[/color][/color][/color]
less[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> rotating mass.[/color]
> >
> > More thoughts on this, you'll need the Harness, ECU or stand alone,
> > manifolds, TB, sensors and probably a few other things to get it running
> > right. What are you really after here? Do you need a new head?[/color][/color]
Performance?[color=blue]
>
> No, the engine's fine. I figure about a 15-25HP boost from a DOHC for
> cheap $$$ and an afternoon in the backyard. THe engine was rated for 155HP
> (91 truck w/proper ECU, etc) the Celica beathes better but I'm using the
> '85 ECU, so I probably gained about 5 HP over stock (there is a noticeable
> difference) so if an easy-breathing head can get me 10 more or so, that
> puts me to 155-170; just fine for this car.[/color]

If you think you can do it, and you have all the parts and $ then go for it.
Might as well P&P the new head while it's off.

hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:37:52 -0400, Josh wrote:
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>>
>> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...[color=darkred]
>>> OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>>>
>>> tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
>>> Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>>>
>>> Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...[/color]
>>
>> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to
>> swap heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the
>> 2.7 making it a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some
>> of the block away for the crank.
>>
>> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC
>> to DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want
>> performance & less rotating mass.[/color]
>
> 2.7 won't fit. I'm somewhat mechanically declined, and aside from
> having to fabricate motor mounts, etc, and rewiring, the headswap is
> the easiest way to get some cheap performance. The 2.7's are fairly
> readily available in the junkyards, and we're taling a 20 YO car
> that's starting to rust at an alarming rate.[/color]

How do you know the 2.7L Crank wont fit your block?

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:27:07 -0400, Josh wrote:
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> hachiroku wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:37:52 -0400, Josh wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...
>>>> OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>>>>
>>>> tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
>>>> Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>>>>
>>>> Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
>>>
>>> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to
>>> swap heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the
>>> 2.7 making it a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some
>>> of the block away for the crank.
>>>
>>> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC
>>> to DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want
>>> performance & less rotating mass.[/color]
>>
>> 2.7 won't fit. I'm somewhat mechanically declined, and aside from
>> having to fabricate motor mounts, etc, and rewiring, the headswap is
>> the easiest way to get some cheap performance. The 2.7's are fairly
>> readily available in the junkyards, and we're taling a 20 YO car
>> that's starting to rust at an alarming rate.[/color]
>
> How do you know the 2.7L Crank wont fit your block?[/color]


I dont. I was talking about replacing the engine. The 2.7L won't fit
handily.

hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:27:07 -0400, Josh wrote:
>[color=green]
>> hachiroku wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:37:52 -0400, Josh wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:u4Pse.13720$Nx1.8295@trndny05...
>>>>> OK, I have my '85 Celica GTS, 22RE 2.4L SOHC engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> tC has 2.4L DOHC engine
>>>>> Taco has 2.7L DOHC engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can either of these heads be fitted to my '91 22RE?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
>>>>
>>>> Get a HG for both and see what lines up..... Why would you want to
>>>> swap heads though? How about checking the crank and swapping in the
>>>> 2.7 making it a 2.7L stroker? Of course you may have to grind some
>>>> of the block away for the crank.
>>>>
>>>> I think it will be too much work and not worth it to go from a SOHC
>>>> to DOHC...Plus you only have 1 cam to regrind if you want
>>>> performance & less rotating mass.
>>>
>>> 2.7 won't fit. I'm somewhat mechanically declined, and aside from
>>> having to fabricate motor mounts, etc, and rewiring, the headswap is
>>> the easiest way to get some cheap performance. The 2.7's are fairly
>>> readily available in the junkyards, and we're taling a 20 YO car
>>> that's starting to rust at an alarming rate.[/color]
>>
>> How do you know the 2.7L Crank wont fit your block?[/color]
>
>
> I dont. I was talking about replacing the engine. The 2.7L won't fit
> handily.[/color]

Yeah I thought so, I was talking about making a Stroker Motor.