Rear brake problem "94 Corolla. Help

Hello:

I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and drums
on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot of
force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to the shoes
or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes are on correctly
(on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster is seated at it's
lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go over the shoes about 1/3
of the way with some banging and then stop. The Toyota manual says put the
drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off and
measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back on and
bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use some help and
it would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bill

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:40:45 +0000, Bill wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello:
>
> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and drums
> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot of
> force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to the shoes
> or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes are on correctly
> (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster is seated at it's
> lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go over the shoes about 1/3
> of the way with some banging and then stop. The Toyota manual says put the
> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off and
> measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back on and
> bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use some help and
> it would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill[/color]


Well, I'm a Backyard Gumby, so I just bang 'em on. Obviously you have
checked the clearacnes and that the shoes are seated properly and not
canted one way or the other.

New drums w new shoes can be a bitch to put on. I see the guys n the shop
banging them on with a rubber hammer.

"Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=blue]
> Hello:
>
> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
> drums
> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot of
> force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to the shoes
> or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes are on correctly
> (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster is seated at it's
> lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go over the shoes about 1/3
> of the way with some banging and then stop. The Toyota manual says put
> the
> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off and
> measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back on and
> bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use some help and
> it would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill[/color]

You did do one side at a time so you can compare with the other, right?
Are you sure that the adjuster is fully retracted and no threads are
visible?
Are the cylinders fully retracted?
Are the shoes and drums OEM or aftermarket?
Are the shoes oriented properly (leading and trailing)?
Is the parking brake handle and cable fully retracted (off)?
Is the hold down spring seated properly?
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:40:45 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and drums
>on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot of
>force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to the shoes
>or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes are on correctly
>(on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster is seated at it's
>lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go over the shoes about 1/3
>of the way with some banging and then stop. The Toyota manual says put the
>drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off and
>measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back on and
>bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use some help and
>it would be appreciated.[/color]

Well, if they are new drums, they shouldn't have a wear ridge on the
outer edge that can be getting in the way.

Did you compare all the new parts with the old parts closely to see
if they gave you a wrong part somewhere? Measure the drums - they
could have been bored undersized at the factory. Take the adjuster
apart to make sure the threads are clean and lubed, and it's really
cranked all the way in.

Could the drum be hanging up on something other than the shoes, like
the wheel studs or the axle center? There IS a logical reason why it
won't go together, it's all in finding it.

--<< Bruce >>--

--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
[color=blue]
>
> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=green]
>> Hello:
>>
>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
>> drums
>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot
>> of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to
>> the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes
>> are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster
>> is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go
>> over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and then stop.
>> The Toyota manual says put the
>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off
>> and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back
>> on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use
>> some help and it would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill[/color][/color]


[color=blue]
> You did do one side at a time so you can compare with the other,
> right?[/color]
Yes, and I reassembled using the toyota diagram.
[color=blue]
> Are you sure that the adjuster is fully retracted and no
> threads are visible?[/color]
No threads are visible, but this has taken the other side of the adjuster
out of it's rear base about 3/4". Is this normal?
[color=blue]
> Are the cylinders fully retracted?[/color]
The shoes are sitting is the cylinder notches and are fully inside the
boots.
[color=blue]
> Are the shoes and drums OEM or aftermarket?[/color]
Aftermarket. Auto Zone Valuecraft drums, Duralast shoes.
[color=blue]
> Are the shoes oriented properly (leading and trailing)?[/color]
When I took the new shoes out of the box I saw that there were two pairs
of identical shoes, so I just took a pair for each wheel, one for the
rear shoe and put the levers on it and used the other for the front shoe.
The toyota manual didn't say anything about specific shoe orientation.
[color=blue]
> Is the parking brake handle and cable fully retracted (off)?[/color]
The handle is all the way down but how can I make sure the cable is
retracted? I noticed I was not able to move the parking brake lever back
and forth at the wheel to check that the adjuster moves (in the manual).
I had a rough time connecting the parking brake cable, I may have pull it
out a ways.
[color=blue]
> Is the hold down spring seated properly?[/color]
Shoe springs look seated well.

Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:46:37 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
>news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=darkred]
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
>>> drums
>>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot
>>> of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to
>>> the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes
>>> are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster
>>> is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go
>>> over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and then stop.
>>> The Toyota manual says put the
>>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off
>>> and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back
>>> on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use
>>> some help and it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill[/color][/color]
>
>
>[color=green]
>> You did do one side at a time so you can compare with the other,
>> right?[/color]
>Yes, and I reassembled using the toyota diagram.
>[color=green]
>> Are you sure that the adjuster is fully retracted and no
>> threads are visible?[/color]
>No threads are visible, but this has taken the other side of the adjuster
>out of it's rear base about 3/4". Is this normal?
>[color=green]
>> Are the cylinders fully retracted?[/color]
>The shoes are sitting is the cylinder notches and are fully inside the
>boots.
>[color=green]
>> Are the shoes and drums OEM or aftermarket?[/color]
>Aftermarket. Auto Zone Valuecraft drums, Duralast shoes.
>[color=green]
>> Are the shoes oriented properly (leading and trailing)?[/color]
>When I took the new shoes out of the box I saw that there were two pairs
>of identical shoes, so I just took a pair for each wheel, one for the
>rear shoe and put the levers on it and used the other for the front shoe.
>The toyota manual didn't say anything about specific shoe orientation.
>[color=green]
>> Is the parking brake handle and cable fully retracted (off)?[/color]
>The handle is all the way down but how can I make sure the cable is
>retracted? I noticed I was not able to move the parking brake lever back
>and forth at the wheel to check that the adjuster moves (in the manual).
>I had a rough time connecting the parking brake cable, I may have pull it
>out a ways.
>[color=green]
>> Is the hold down spring seated properly?[/color]
>Shoe springs look seated well.
>
>Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.[/color]

I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
you...
--

Scott in Florida

Bruce L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in
news:61v9b1htrkfnjnluojb94ft8ladg6dqds9@4ax.com:
[color=blue]
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:40:45 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
>>drums on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without
>>a lot of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage
>>to the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes
>>are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster
>>is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go
>>over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and then stop.
>>The Toyota manual says put the drum on and work the parking brake
>>handle and then take the drum off and measure the clearance between
>>drum and shoes and then put it back on and bleed the system. I can't
>>do that at this point. I could use some help and it would be
>>appreciated.[/color]
>
> Well, if they are new drums, they shouldn't have a wear ridge on the
> outer edge that can be getting in the way.
>
> Did you compare all the new parts with the old parts closely to see
> if they gave you a wrong part somewhere?[/color]
Shoes and hardware looked the same, I will compare the drums.
[color=blue]
> Measure the drums - they could have been bored undersized at the[/color]
factory.
I will try to measure them.
[color=blue]
> Take the adjuster apart to make sure the threads are clean and lubed,
> and it's really cranked all the way in.[/color]
I took the adjusters apart cleaned and lubed them.
[color=blue]
> Could the drum be hanging up on something other than the shoes, like
> the wheel studs or the axle center?[/color]
I really haven't been able to get the drum in that far.
[color=blue]
> There IS a logical reason why it won't go together, it's all in
> finding it.[/color]
I hope so.

Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in
news:ha2bb1pkqacam5bbcmjsdrtp3si579i0pu@4ax.com:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:46:37 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
>>news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes
>>>> and drums
>>>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a
>>>> lot of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage
>>>> to the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the
>>>> shoes are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the
>>>> adjuster is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The
>>>> drums go over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and
>>>> then stop. The Toyota manual says put the
>>>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum
>>>> off and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put
>>>> it back on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I
>>>> could use some help and it would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill[/color]
>>
>>Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.[/color]
>
> I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
> you...[/color]

That is a wonderful gesture. I would like to exhaust all possibilitys
with what I have first. I may get back to you on that. Thanks very much.

"Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967A6DA0415B17p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=blue]
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
> news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=darkred]
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
>>> drums
>>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot
>>> of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to
>>> the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes
>>> are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster
>>> is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go
>>> over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and then stop.
>>> The Toyota manual says put the
>>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off
>>> and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back
>>> on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use
>>> some help and it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill[/color][/color]
>
>
>[color=green]
>> You did do one side at a time so you can compare with the other,
>> right?[/color]
> Yes, and I reassembled using the toyota diagram.
>[color=green]
>> Are you sure that the adjuster is fully retracted and no
>> threads are visible?[/color]
> No threads are visible, but this has taken the other side of the adjuster
> out of it's rear base about 3/4". Is this normal?[/color]

I don't think so. You mentioned that you cleaned and lubed the adjuster -
is it oriented so that the star wheel is in front of the rubber adjusting
plug on the backing plate? When the drums are installed, you should be able
to pull the oval-shaped plug and get at the star wheel from the inboard side
of the backing plate. If not, then the adjusted is installed backwards -
fore-aft.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Are the cylinders fully retracted?[/color]
> The shoes are sitting is the cylinder notches and are fully inside the
> boots.
>[color=green]
>> Are the shoes and drums OEM or aftermarket?[/color]
> Aftermarket. Auto Zone Valuecraft drums, Duralast shoes.[/color]

Use a ruler to measure the diameter of the replacement drums and the ones
you took off.

Measure the curvature of the replacement shoes and the ones you took off to
make sure they are an exact match.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Are the shoes oriented properly (leading and trailing)?[/color]
> When I took the new shoes out of the box I saw that there were two pairs
> of identical shoes, so I just took a pair for each wheel, one for the
> rear shoe and put the levers on it and used the other for the front shoe.
> The toyota manual didn't say anything about specific shoe orientation.
>[/color]

There is a specific leading and trailing shoe, and I believe the adjusters
are specific left and right. The moving threaded part of the adjuster
should extend towards the rear of the vehicle.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Is the parking brake handle and cable fully retracted (off)?[/color]
> The handle is all the way down but how can I make sure the cable is
> retracted? I noticed I was not able to move the parking brake lever back
> and forth at the wheel to check that the adjuster moves (in the manual).
> I had a rough time connecting the parking brake cable, I may have pull it
> out a ways.[/color]

If the parking brake cable is too tight, it will pull the shoes out. Back
off the parking brake adjuster if necessary. Peel back the boot over the
adjuster lever and make sure it it not all rusted.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Is the hold down spring seated properly?[/color]
> Shoe springs look seated well.
>
> Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.[/color]
Good luck!
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:28:02 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in
>news:ha2bb1pkqacam5bbcmjsdrtp3si579i0pu@4ax.com:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:46:37 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
>>>news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...
>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes
>>>>> and drums
>>>>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a
>>>>> lot of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage
>>>>> to the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the
>>>>> shoes are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the
>>>>> adjuster is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The
>>>>> drums go over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and
>>>>> then stop. The Toyota manual says put the
>>>>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum
>>>>> off and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put
>>>>> it back on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I
>>>>> could use some help and it would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bill
>>>
>>>Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.[/color]
>>
>> I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
>> you...[/color]
>
>That is a wonderful gesture. I would like to exhaust all possibilitys
>with what I have first. I may get back to you on that. Thanks very much.[/color]

No problem. We all go thru times when the money gets tight.

Just say the word...


--

Scott in Florida

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:04:19 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:46:37 -0000, Bill <concan@nowhere.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote in
>>news:5535c$42b4e264$180fead6$22738@msgid.meganewsservers.com:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9679C82EE4D57p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> I'm finishing a replacement of rear brake hoses, cylinders, shoes and
>>>> drums
>>>> on my '94 Corolla. I can't seem to get the drums on now without a lot
>>>> of force. I don't want to keep banging them on and cause damage to
>>>> the shoes or the wheel studs or the drums. It looks like the shoes
>>>> are on correctly (on the anchor and in the cylinder) and the adjuster
>>>> is seated at it's lowest point, parking brake is off. The drums go
>>>> over the shoes about 1/3 of the way with some banging and then stop.
>>>> The Toyota manual says put the
>>>> drum on and work the parking brake handle and then take the drum off
>>>> and measure the clearance between drum and shoes and then put it back
>>>> on and bleed the system. I can't do that at this point. I could use
>>>> some help and it would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill[/color]
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You did do one side at a time so you can compare with the other,
>>> right?[/color]
>>Yes, and I reassembled using the toyota diagram.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Are you sure that the adjuster is fully retracted and no
>>> threads are visible?[/color]
>>No threads are visible, but this has taken the other side of the adjuster
>>out of it's rear base about 3/4". Is this normal?
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Are the cylinders fully retracted?[/color]
>>The shoes are sitting is the cylinder notches and are fully inside the
>>boots.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Are the shoes and drums OEM or aftermarket?[/color]
>>Aftermarket. Auto Zone Valuecraft drums, Duralast shoes.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Are the shoes oriented properly (leading and trailing)?[/color]
>>When I took the new shoes out of the box I saw that there were two pairs
>>of identical shoes, so I just took a pair for each wheel, one for the
>>rear shoe and put the levers on it and used the other for the front shoe.
>>The toyota manual didn't say anything about specific shoe orientation.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is the parking brake handle and cable fully retracted (off)?[/color]
>>The handle is all the way down but how can I make sure the cable is
>>retracted? I noticed I was not able to move the parking brake lever back
>>and forth at the wheel to check that the adjuster moves (in the manual).
>>I had a rough time connecting the parking brake cable, I may have pull it
>>out a ways.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is the hold down spring seated properly?[/color]
>>Shoe springs look seated well.
>>
>>Unfortunatly at the present time I can't afford toyota parts.[/color]
>
> I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
> you...[/color]


Damn! All this time I've been scraping and scratching and all I had to do
was ask Uncle Scotty? DAMN!

Well, now that I know this, I want a stainless steel TRD exhaust, a new
A340 auto tranny for the Supra, some new seats for the Hachiroku, with an
engine overhaul and body work to boot.

DAMN!!!

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:05 GMT, hachiroku <hachiroku@Trueno.GTS>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:04:19 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
>> you...[/color]
>
>
>Damn! All this time I've been scraping and scratching and all I had to do
>was ask Uncle Scotty? DAMN!
>
>Well, now that I know this, I want a stainless steel TRD exhaust, a new
>A340 auto tranny for the Supra, some new seats for the Hachiroku, with an
>engine overhaul and body work to boot.
>
>DAMN!!![/color]

YOU have an unfair advantage....

You have a job at a Toy dealer.....

You don't 'need' any help...

We all have 'toys' we 'want'.....but we all don't have 'important'
things like brakes that we need....

You know I would help if you 'needed' it...



--

Scott in Florida

Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in
news:feobb1pm5qis7g42k0pv9mtesun0hnk6bj@4ax.com:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:05 GMT, hachiroku[/color]
<hachiroku@Trueno.GTS>[color=blue]
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:04:19 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>>[/color]
>[/color]

I got the drums on finally. No Banging.

1) I had the adjusting lever stuck against the star wheel which
wouldn't let the adjuster set properly.
2 ) I did not have a proper tool to get the return spring on . A
long nose vise-grip locking pliers from Lowes helped with that.

Many thanks to those who gave suggestions you really helped me
out of a jam. The people that share their knowledge help to make
the Internet a great place.

"Bill" <concan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967BD85D1CE067p9e36jx@216.168.3.50...[color=blue]
> Scott in Florida <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in
> news:feobb1pm5qis7g42k0pv9mtesun0hnk6bj@4ax.com:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:05 GMT, hachiroku[/color]
> <hachiroku@Trueno.GTS>[color=green]
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:04:19 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
> I got the drums on finally. No Banging.
>
> 1) I had the adjusting lever stuck against the star wheel which
> wouldn't let the adjuster set properly.
> 2 ) I did not have a proper tool to get the return spring on . A
> long nose vise-grip locking pliers from Lowes helped with that.
>
> Many thanks to those who gave suggestions you really helped me
> out of a jam. The people that share their knowledge help to make
> the Internet a great place.[/color]

Happy motoring!
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:24:40 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:17:05 GMT, hachiroku <hachiroku@Trueno.GTS>
> wrote:
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>>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:04:19 +0000, Scott in Florida wrote:
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>>> I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks to help get OEM parts for
>>> you...[/color]
>>
>>
>>Damn! All this time I've been scraping and scratching and all I had to do
>>was ask Uncle Scotty? DAMN!
>>
>>Well, now that I know this, I want a stainless steel TRD exhaust, a new
>>A340 auto tranny for the Supra, some new seats for the Hachiroku, with an
>>engine overhaul and body work to boot.
>>
>>DAMN!!![/color]
>
> YOU have an unfair advantage....
>
> You have a job at a Toy dealer.....
>
> You don't 'need' any help...
>
> We all have 'toys' we 'want'.....but we all don't have 'important'
> things like brakes that we need....
>
> You know I would help if you 'needed' it...[/color]

Nah, I'd never ask. However, a few months ago...

I went by where I was working before this morning. They sold 3 cars in the
time I've been gone: 5-6 weeks (I can't remember...) One was a $300
Commission, one was $200, one was $250. That's $750. I've SPENT more than
that in the last 6 weeks!! (Mostly paying for Insurance before it got
cancelled...12 HOURS before it got cancelled! The last time it got
cancelled in February I DID miss the payment by 8 hours! The LAST payment
and they wouldn't accept the payment!)