OT - Durbin apologizes

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]

Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
yet again, egg on their faces.

Tough.

It appears even Durbin admits his error.



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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:23:59 -0700, Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.nét> wrote:
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>[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>
>Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
>yet again, egg on their faces.
>
>Tough.
>
>It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]

Maybe some in here should listen to Durbin?

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Scott in Florida

Eric Dreher wrote:[color=blue]
> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>
> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
> yet again, egg on their faces.
>
> Tough.
>
> It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent
describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would
most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their
gulags or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for
human beings,"

And he was DAMN right!. If we would have heard of ANOTHER country doing this
shit we would be OUTRAGED. This is the VERY same thing we are fighting
against.

"Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line," the Illinois Democrat
said. "To them I extend my heartfelt apologies."

"I made reference to Nazis, to Soviets, and other repressive regimes. Mr.
President, I've come to understand that's a very poor choice of words."

Yup, a poor choice of words only because it caused such an uproar

Only you jackass neocons would think something like torturing INNOCENT
people is somehow acceptable as long as it's not our own, sickos.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:35:31 GMT, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
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>>It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]
>
>Maybe some in here should listen to Durbin?[/color]

Don't hold your breath. These loons will continue to defend the
intent of Durbin's words, all the while expressing far more concern
for the well being of enemy combatants than they do our soldiers,
our civilians, or even Iraqis who've died at their hands while
trying to make a better country for themselves.

It goes beyond the pale.


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Idiot Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.nét> wrote:
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>Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
>yet again, egg on their faces.
>
>Tough.
>
>It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]

Idiot. An apology doesn't mean shit Politics often require that you
say things to appease the protestors or whoever.

Only a moron like you would put much stock in what this guy says, one
way or the other.

"Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
news:SLecncCrX_3aXCXfUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Eric Dreher wrote:[color=green]
>> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>>
>> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
>> yet again, egg on their faces.
>>
>> Tough.
>>
>> It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]
>
> "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent
> describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you
> would
> most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their
> gulags or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for
> human beings,"
>
> And he was DAMN right!. If we would have heard of ANOTHER country doing
> this
> shit we would be OUTRAGED. This is the VERY same thing we are fighting
> against.
>
> "Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line," the Illinois Democrat
> said. "To them I extend my heartfelt apologies."
>
> "I made reference to Nazis, to Soviets, and other repressive regimes. Mr.
> President, I've come to understand that's a very poor choice of words."
>
> Yup, a poor choice of words only because it caused such an uproar
>
> Only you jackass neocons would think something like torturing INNOCENT
> people is somehow acceptable as long as it's not our own, sickos.[/color]

Smoke pole, asshole. BTW, they are NOT innocent people. Pay more attention
to Islamic infidels who behead INNOCENT people.
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>
>[/color]

Sharx35 wrote:[color=blue]
> "Josh" <nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote in message
> news:SLecncCrX_3aXCXfUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Eric Dreher wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>>>
>>> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing
>>> have, yet again, egg on their faces.
>>>
>>> Tough.
>>>
>>> It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]
>>
>> "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent
>> describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you
>> would
>> most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in
>> their gulags or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no
>> concern for human beings,"
>>
>> And he was DAMN right!. If we would have heard of ANOTHER country
>> doing this
>> shit we would be OUTRAGED. This is the VERY same thing we are
>> fighting against.
>>
>> "Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line," the Illinois
>> Democrat said. "To them I extend my heartfelt apologies."
>>
>> "I made reference to Nazis, to Soviets, and other repressive
>> regimes. Mr. President, I've come to understand that's a very poor
>> choice of words."
>>
>> Yup, a poor choice of words only because it caused such an uproar
>>
>> Only you jackass neocons would think something like torturing
>> INNOCENT people is somehow acceptable as long as it's not our own,
>> sickos.[/color]
>
> Smoke pole, asshole. BTW, they are NOT innocent people. Pay more
> attention to Islamic infidels who behead INNOCENT people.[/color]

There are a LOT of innocents locked up, it's YOU who have not payed
attention. Nobody denies this, even the damn government but you neos do.

dizzy wrote:[color=blue]
> Idiot Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.nét> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing
>> have, yet again, egg on their faces.
>>
>> Tough.
>>
>> It appears even Durbin admits his error.[/color]
>
> Idiot. An apology doesn't mean shit Politics often require that you
> say things to appease the protestors or whoever.
>
> Only a moron like you would put much stock in what this guy says, one
> way or the other.[/color]

I think he was selective about the way he apologized. He did not say he was
sorry for saying, only he was sorry that some felt it was harsh, and that it
was not the most wise choice of words.

"Eric Dreher" <ericd@cox.nét> wrote in message
news:4bfhb19ju8tfo5v5r6kva1mmonnmiu6nei@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>
> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
> yet again, egg on their faces.
>
> Tough.
>
> It appears even Durbin admits his error.
>[/color]

It's too bad we live in a political climate were
someone can't speak the truth, but that's the climate
we have with this fascist administration. Every thing
Durbin said was right on accurate.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:53:57 -0700, "ToMh" <Teelhumm@hotm.com> wrote:
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>
>"Eric Dreher" <ericd@cox.nét> wrote in message
>news:4bfhb19ju8tfo5v5r6kva1mmonnmiu6nei@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>>
>> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
>> yet again, egg on their faces.
>>
>> Tough.
>>
>> It appears even Durbin admits his error.
>>[/color]
>
>It's too bad we live in a political climate were
>someone can't speak the truth, but that's the climate
>we have with this fascist administration. Every thing
>Durbin said was right on accurate.
>
>[/color]
I suggest you and 'dick' Durbin take a trip down to Gitmo and review
the treatment of the enemy combatants....

I'll pay your way...


--

Scott in Florida

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:56:59 GMT, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
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>I suggest you and 'dick' Durbin take a trip down to Gitmo and review
>the treatment of the enemy combatants....
>
>I'll pay your way...[/color]

When the rubber meets the road...

I do think that some people confuse Gitmo and Abu Ghraib.

Muddled media are at fault, as there has not been any evidence of any
sort of torture at Gitmo, where weight gain is the norm.

Sort of flies in the face of torture claims.


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"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:53:57 -0700, "ToMh" <Teelhumm@hotm.com> wrote:
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>>
>>"Eric Dreher" <ericd@cox.nét> wrote in message
>>news:4bfhb19ju8tfo5v5r6kva1mmonnmiu6nei@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin_3[/url]
>>>
>>> Well, well. It seems the LLL's who *claim* Durbin meant nothing have,
>>> yet again, egg on their faces.
>>>
>>> Tough.
>>>
>>> It appears even Durbin admits his error.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>It's too bad we live in a political climate were
>>someone can't speak the truth, but that's the climate
>>we have with this fascist administration. Every thing
>>Durbin said was right on accurate.
>>
>>[/color]
> I suggest you and 'dick' Durbin take a trip down to Gitmo and review
> the treatment of the enemy combatants....
>
> I'll pay your way...
>[/color]
Considering that they won't even let a US senator visit the prison, I'm sure
they
wouldn't let me go there. More and more proof about abuse and torture are
coming out every day. Funny thing is that it looks very much like Abu
Ghraib,
but of course we are sending soldiers to prison for that "isolated
incident".
Looks to me like that was business as usual and that our military is
sacrificing
a few soldiers to cover their asses. Here's an article from that liberal
rag,
"The Christian Science Monitor". There are many more scathing reports,
but you'd just ignore them anyways and continue to drink the kool aide
served up by conservative talk show hosts. BTW how many of the prisoners
at Gitmo have actually been charged with a crime?

[url]http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0322/dailyUpdate.html[/url]

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4934436/site/newsweek/[/url]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:53:57 -0700, "ToMh" <Teelhumm@hotm.com> wrote:
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>It's too bad we live in a political climate were
>someone can't speak the truth,[/color]

LOL. Funny stuff considering the reaction most radical left wingers
produce when confronted with exactly that.
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>but that's the climate we have with this fascist administration.[/color]

The only fascism I recall during recent years was what happened
between '92 and 2000. Free speech took a nose dive with
politically correct speech ruling the work place.
[color=blue]
>Every thing Durbin said was right on accurate.[/color]

Dang. There's that pesky alarm going off again.


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"Eric Dreher" <ericd@cox.nét> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:53:57 -0700, "ToMh" <Teelhumm@hotm.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>It's too bad we live in a political climate were
>>someone can't speak the truth,[/color]
>
> LOL. Funny stuff considering the reaction most radical left wingers
> produce when confronted with exactly that.[/color]

How does whatever your talking about justify the silencing of
a US senator when speaking his mind?
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>but that's the climate we have with this fascist administration.[/color]
>
> The only fascism I recall during recent years was what happened
> between '92 and 2000. Free speech took a nose dive with
> politically correct speech ruling the work place.
>[/color]

You may want to look up "fascism". Even so, you're
being hypocritical. To you free speech is only OK if it's
"right wing politically correct".
[color=blue][color=green]
>>Every thing Durbin said was right on accurate.[/color]
>
> Dang. There's that pesky alarm going off again.
>[/color]

The one to ignore all news sources and opinions other than talk radio?

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:48:32 -0700, "ToMh" <Teelhumm@hotm.com> wrote:
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>>>It's too bad we live in a political climate were
>>>someone can't speak the truth,[/color]
>>
>> LOL. Funny stuff considering the reaction most radical left wingers
>> produce when confronted with exactly that.[/color]
>
>How does whatever your (sic) talking about justify the silencing of
>a US senator when speaking his mind?[/color]

Followed the news recently? How about the Dem Senators calling for
the resignation of the head of PBS. His crime? Daring to want
more conservative viewpoints on their network. We can't have that
now can we?
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>but that's the climate we have with this fascist administration.[/color]
>>
>> The only fascism I recall during recent years was what happened
>> between '92 and 2000. Free speech took a nose dive with
>> politically correct speech ruling the work place.
>>[/color]
>
>You may want to look up "fascism".[/color]

I used it in exactly the same context you did. Daring to speak
one's mind. In your case, a senator. In mine, any one individual
in the corporate work place or the public eye.
[color=blue]
>Even so, you're being hypocritical. To you free speech is only OK if it's
>"right wing politically correct".[/color]

Pot...kettle. Free speech seems okay for liberals, but if a
conservative dares to express themselves, they're simply
belittled or silences. Very effective when one considers
the media bent.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Every thing Durbin said was right on accurate.[/color]
>>
>> Dang. There's that pesky alarm going off again.[/color]
>
>The one to ignore all news sources and opinions other than talk radio?[/color]

I don't listen to talk radio, so that one falls as flat as the rest
of your argument.


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