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Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo

Reuters

LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United States
should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign terrorism
suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday, Clinton
said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if they have a
reputation for abusing people.

"Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton said
when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time that there
are no more stories coming out of there about people being abused."

The prison, set up after the United States went to war in Afghanistan
in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become increasingly
controversial in recent months. Some U.S. lawmakers have condemned the
way detainees are treated at the prison.

"If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own soldiers
much more at risk," Clinton said.

Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.

The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
have been held for more than three years; four have been charged. Most
were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.

Learning Richard wrote:[color=blue]
> All that fun at the Kennebunkport "Ranch" this summer... ya think?
>
> Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo
>
> Reuters
>
> LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United
> States should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign
> terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
>
> In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday, Clinton
> said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if they have
> a reputation for abusing people.
>
> "Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton said
> when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time that
> there are no more stories coming out of there about people being
> abused."
>
> The prison, set up after the United States went to war in Afghanistan
> in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become increasingly
> controversial in recent months. Some U.S. lawmakers have condemned the
> way detainees are treated at the prison.
>
> "If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own soldiers
> much more at risk," Clinton said.
>
> Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
> prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
> describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.
>
> The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
> have been held for more than three years; four have been charged. Most
> were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.[/color]

Let's not forget that we are *not* in a state of war. Congress, not the
president, declares war and Congress has not declared war since WWII. Makes
Guantanamo Bay and all the action in Iraq seem even more out of place,
doesn't it.

"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vrque.830$Q75.125542@newshog.newsread.com...[color=blue]
> Learning Richard wrote:[color=green]
>> All that fun at the Kennebunkport "Ranch" this summer... ya think?
>>
>> Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo
>>
>> Reuters
>>
>> LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United
>> States should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign
>> terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
>>
>> In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday, Clinton
>> said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if they have
>> a reputation for abusing people.
>>
>> "Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton said
>> when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time that
>> there are no more stories coming out of there about people being
>> abused."
>>
>> The prison, set up after the United States went to war in Afghanistan
>> in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become increasingly
>> controversial in recent months. Some U.S. lawmakers have condemned the
>> way detainees are treated at the prison.
>>
>> "If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own soldiers
>> much more at risk," Clinton said.
>>
>> Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
>> prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
>> describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.
>>
>> The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
>> have been held for more than three years; four have been charged. Most
>> were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.[/color]
>
> Let's not forget that we are *not* in a state of war. Congress, not the
> president, declares war and Congress has not declared war since WWII.
> Makes Guantanamo Bay and all the action in Iraq seem even more out of
> place, doesn't it.
>[/color]

Only to fucking idiot surrender monkeys..like yourself.

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>[/color]

"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Cyrue.97292$on1.10495@clgrps13...[color=blue]
>
> "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vrque.830$Q75.125542@newshog.newsread.com...[color=green]
> > Learning Richard wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> All that fun at the Kennebunkport "Ranch" this summer... ya think?
> >>
> >> Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo
> >>
> >> Reuters
> >>
> >> LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United
> >> States should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign
> >> terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
> >>
> >> In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday, Clinton
> >> said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if they have
> >> a reputation for abusing people.
> >>
> >> "Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton said
> >> when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time that
> >> there are no more stories coming out of there about people being
> >> abused."
> >>
> >> The prison, set up after the United States went to war in Afghanistan
> >> in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become increasingly
> >> controversial in recent months. Some U.S. lawmakers have condemned the
> >> way detainees are treated at the prison.
> >>
> >> "If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own soldiers
> >> much more at risk," Clinton said.
> >>
> >> Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
> >> prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
> >> describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.
> >>
> >> The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
> >> have been held for more than three years; four have been charged. Most
> >> were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.[/color]
> >
> > Let's not forget that we are *not* in a state of war. Congress, not the
> > president, declares war and Congress has not declared war since WWII.
> > Makes Guantanamo Bay and all the action in Iraq seem even more out of
> > place, doesn't it.
> >[/color]
>
> Only to fucking idiot surrender monkeys..like yourself.[/color]

And you surrendered to KKKarl Rove and the neocons! Ahhh another mindless
follower, how thick the Fog of War has become.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:40:33 -0400, "Josh"
<nobody@noplacenowhere.never> wrote:
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>
>"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Cyrue.97292$on1.10495@clgrps13...[color=green]
>>
>> "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:vrque.830$Q75.125542@newshog.newsread.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Learning Richard wrote:[/color][/color][/color]
[snip][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Let's not forget that we are *not* in a state of war. Congress, not the
>> > president, declares war and Congress has not declared war since WWII.[/color][/color][/color]

Just because we are dropping bombs, and men are dying, doesn't, ah,
mean we are, um, at ... war ... D'oh!
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Makes Guantanamo Bay and all the action in Iraq seem even more out of
>> > place, doesn't it.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Only to fucking idiot surrender monkeys..like yourself.[/color][/color]

Ya know, if ya don't have anything nice to say, just stFu :-)
[color=blue]
>And you surrendered to KKKarl Rove and the neocons! Ahhh another mindless
>follower, how thick the Fog of War has become.
>[/color]

The last episode of American Dad (Sunday nights on FOX!) portrayed
Rove as a Star Wars Sith-like character (or maybe simply a demon?).
Funny stuff ;-)

....

Sharx35 wrote:[color=blue]
> "FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vrque.830$Q75.125542@newshog.newsread.com...[color=green]
>> Learning Richard wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> All that fun at the Kennebunkport "Ranch" this summer... ya think?
>>>
>>> Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo
>>>
>>> Reuters
>>>
>>> LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United
>>> States should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign
>>> terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
>>>
>>> In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday,
>>> Clinton said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if
>>> they have a reputation for abusing people.
>>>
>>> "Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton
>>> said when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time
>>> that there are no more stories coming out of there about people
>>> being abused."
>>>
>>> The prison, set up after the United States went to war in
>>> Afghanistan in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has
>>> become increasingly controversial in recent months. Some U.S.
>>> lawmakers have condemned the way detainees are treated at the
>>> prison. "If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own
>>> soldiers
>>> much more at risk," Clinton said.
>>>
>>> Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
>>> prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
>>> describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.
>>>
>>> The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
>>> have been held for more than three years; four have been charged.
>>> Most were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.[/color]
>>
>> Let's not forget that we are *not* in a state of war. Congress, not
>> the president, declares war and Congress has not declared war since
>> WWII. Makes Guantanamo Bay and all the action in Iraq seem even more
>> out of place, doesn't it.
>>[/color]
>
> Only to fucking idiot surrender monkeys..like yourself.[/color]

People like this is how it happened - 9/11 *and* the war.

[This followup was posted to alt.autos.toyota and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]

In article <1119497064.950424.94900@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
[email]learningrichard@gmail.com[/email] says...[color=blue]
> All that fun at the Kennebunkport "Ranch" this summer... ya think?
>
> Clinton Calls For Change at Guantanamo
>
> Reuters
>
> LONDON, June 20 -- Former president Bill Clinton said the United States
> should either "close down or clean up" the prison for foreign terrorism
> suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
>
> In an interview with the Financial Times published on Monday, Clinton
> said U.S. or British troops will be at much greater risk if they have a
> reputation for abusing people.
>
> "Well, it either needs to be closed down or cleaned up," Clinton said
> when asked whether the camp in Cuba should close. "It's time that there
> are no more stories coming out of there about people being abused."
>
> The prison, set up after the United States went to war in Afghanistan
> in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become increasingly
> controversial in recent months. Some U.S. lawmakers have condemned the
> way detainees are treated at the prison.
>
> "If we get a reputation for abusing people, it puts our own soldiers
> much more at risk," Clinton said.
>
> Former detainees have alleged they were abused or tortured at the
> prison. U.S. authorities have insisted they do not use torture and
> describe Guantanamo Bay as safe and humane.
>
> The Pentagon has said it holds about 520 men at Guantanamo Bay. Many
> have been held for more than three years; four have been charged. Most
> were detained after being taken into custody in Afghanistan.
>
>[/color]
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