Scion xA ?

What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or manual
xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or (gasp)
Honda Element ?
--
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx
[url]http://www.rfruth.net[/url]

1981 Raleigh for errands & fun ____ __o
1997 Trek 2300 for real fun ! ____ _ \ | _)
2000 Civic hatchback (_)/ (_)

spam the Federal Trade Commission thats [email]spam@uce.gov[/email]

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:51:01 +0000, someone wrote:
[color=blue]
> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or manual
> xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or (gasp)
> Honda Element ?[/color]

Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this means
great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)

If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like 2D
coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power, decent
economy.

NEXT would be a Mazda 3 wagon. Nice design, boatloads of Ooomph!

Honda Element? They give me a headache just looking at them.

Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...

"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.02.05.07.43.390566@Trueno.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:51:01 +0000, someone wrote:
>[color=green]
>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or manual
>> xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or (gasp)
>> Honda Element ?[/color]
>
> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this means
> great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)[/color]

Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage. My only
caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable roll. Other than
that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is hubby's car)[color=blue]
>
> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like 2D
> coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power, decent
> economy.[/color]

Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...[color=blue]
>
> NEXT would be a Mazda 3 wagon. Nice design, boatloads of Ooomph![/color]

And shit gas mileage[color=blue]
>
> Honda Element? They give me a headache just looking at them.[/color]

Fugly, but reliable[color=blue]
>
> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
> thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>[/color]
Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?

Search the posts here for it

Natalie

A stiffer rear sway bar helped the body roll and handling on my Matrix
A LOT. :-)

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:17:21 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.02.05.07.43.390566@Trueno.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:51:01 +0000, someone wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or manual
>>> xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or (gasp)
>>> Honda Element ?[/color]
>>
>> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this means
>> great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)[/color]
>
> Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage. My
> only caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable roll.
> Other than that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is hubby's car)[/color]

No, no, no, Natalie! Sheesh! I wasn't saying, "Don't onw one" I was saying
"Don't own one" in response to the OP's question, "Anybody here own one".
So, I meant "*I* don't own one!!!"

Now take it back!

We have an xA on the lot. Under the new regime, I doubt I'll get to drive
it. Under the old regime, I probably could have borrowed ti to go tolunch
when my Celica broke down yesterday. I would LOVE to be able to take it
for a spin. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive' engine in it!

[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like 2D
>> coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power, decent
>> economy.[/color]
>
> Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...[/color]


Shouldn't be too much more than the current Corolla!
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> NEXT would be a Mazda 3 wagon. Nice design, boatloads of Ooomph![/color]
>
> And shit gas mileage[/color]

Zoom, Zoom!

[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Honda Element? They give me a headache just looking at them.[/color]
>
> Fugly, but reliable[color=green]
>>
>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>> thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>>[/color]
> Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?
>
> Search the posts here for it
>
> Natalie[/color]

That's why I'd wait. Actually, we have quite a few of them in and out, and
I like it. A little unnerving the way they start and run, but cool little
cars. I call 'em Japanese Beetles due to the design...

[color=blue]
> We have an xA on the lot. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive' engine in it![/color]

Glad there *isn't* a bigger engine in it (don't want to feed the thing)
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait[color=darkred]
>>>thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...[/color][/color][/color]

When might hybrid mania settle down, when fuel cells are feasible ?


--
Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx
[url]http://www.rfruth.net[/url]

1981 Raleigh for errands & fun ____ __o
1997 Trek 2300 for real fun ! ____ _ \ | _)
2000 Civic hatchback (_)/ (_)

spam the Federal Trade Commission thats [email]spam@uce.gov[/email]

"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.02.18.41.07.443139@Trueno.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:17:21 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or manual
>>>> xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or (gasp)
>>>> Honda Element ?
>>>
>>> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this means
>>> great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)[/color]
>>
>> Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage. My
>> only caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable roll.
>> Other than that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is hubby's car)[/color]
>
> No, no, no, Natalie! Sheesh! I wasn't saying, "Don't onw one" I was saying
> "Don't own one" in response to the OP's question, "Anybody here own one".
> So, I meant "*I* don't own one!!!"[/color]

But..but...you implied my Echo doesn't have testicular fortitude! It *does!*[color=blue]
>
> Now take it back![/color]

Not till you recant that grievous insult to my Echo![color=blue]
>
> We have an xA on the lot. Under the new regime, I doubt I'll get to drive
> it. Under the old regime, I probably could have borrowed ti to go tolunch
> when my Celica broke down yesterday. I would LOVE to be able to take it
> for a spin. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive' engine in it!
>[/color]
Hey, leave your issues out when discussing my Echo...[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like 2D
>>> coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power, decent
>>> economy.[/color]
>>
>> Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...[/color]
>
>
> Shouldn't be too much more than the current Corolla![/color]

Like I'd have that one either![color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> NEXT would be a Mazda 3 wagon. Nice design, boatloads of Ooomph![/color]
>>
>> And shit gas mileage[/color]
>
> Zoom, Zoom!
>[/color]
There go those issues again...[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Honda Element? They give me a headache just looking at them.[/color]
>>
>> Fugly, but reliable[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>>> thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>>>[/color]
>> Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?
>>
>> Search the posts here for it
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> That's why I'd wait. Actually, we have quite a few of them in and out, and
> I like it. A little unnerving the way they start and run, but cool little
> cars. I call 'em Japanese Beetles due to the design...
>[/color]
LOL nah, they're much better made than VWs will ever be

Natalie

"someone" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:JCDxe.2618$Ox3.62@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> We have an xA on the lot. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive'
>> engine in it![/color]
>
> Glad there *isn't* a bigger engine in it (don't want to feed the thing)[/color]

LOL you sound like me talking about that damned Sunfire Enterprise first gave
me. Thing out-ate my teenaged son![color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>>>>thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...[/color][/color]
>
> When might hybrid mania settle down, when fuel cells are feasible ?
>
>[/color]

Hey, if you're gonna dream, dream big

Natalie

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:19:38 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.02.18.41.07.443139@Trueno.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:17:21 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or
>>>>> manual xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or
>>>>> (gasp) Honda Element ?
>>>>
>>>> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this
>>>> means great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)
>>>
>>> Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage.
>>> My only caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable
>>> roll. Other than that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is
>>> hubby's car)[/color]
>>
>> No, no, no, Natalie! Sheesh! I wasn't saying, "Don't onw one" I was
>> saying "Don't own one" in response to the OP's question, "Anybody here
>> own one". So, I meant "*I* don't own one!!!"[/color]
>
> But..but...you implied my Echo doesn't have testicular fortitude! It
> *does!*[/color]

Do you have an A/T or a 5 sp. They ARE pretty quick on the pickup due to
the gearing. But, it is basically the same car as my '95 Tercel, and while
it ran tops, I wouldn't put it up against my ae86 or even a Corolla "S".
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> Now take it back![/color]
>
> Not till you recant that grievous insult to my Echo![/color]

I didn't insult it. I merely meant to imply they can't get out of their
own way! ;)
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>> We have an xA on the lot. Under the new regime, I doubt I'll get to
>> drive it. Under the old regime, I probably could have borrowed ti to go
>> tolunch when my Celica broke down yesterday. I would LOVE to be able to
>> take it for a spin. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive'
>> engine in it!
>>[/color]
> Hey, leave your issues out when discussing my Echo...[/color]

Basicall, the same car.

[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like
>>>> 2D coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power,
>>>> decent economy.
>>>
>>> Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...[/color]
>>
>>
>> Shouldn't be too much more than the current Corolla![/color]
>
> Like I'd have that one either![/color]

Believe it or not, the Corolla "S" is a nice quick car! Can't wait till we
get an XRs...
[color=blue][color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> NEXT would be a Mazda 3 wagon. Nice design, boatloads of Ooomph!
>>>
>>> And shit gas mileage[/color]
>>
>> Zoom, Zoom!
>>[/color]
> There go those issues again...[color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Honda Element? They give me a headache just looking at them.
>>>
>>> Fugly, but reliable
>>>>
>>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>>>> thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>>>>
>>> Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?
>>>
>>> Search the posts here for it
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> That's why I'd wait. Actually, we have quite a few of them in and out,
>> and I like it. A little unnerving the way they start and run, but cool
>> little cars. I call 'em Japanese Beetles due to the design...
>>[/color]
> LOL nah, they're much better made than VWs will ever be
>
> Natalie[/color]


But they LOOK like Japanese beetles!

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:24:57 +0000, someone wrote:
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> We have an xA on the lot. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive'
>> engine in it![/color]
>
> Glad there *isn't* a bigger engine in it (don't want to feed the thing)
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>>>>thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...[/color][/color]
>
> When might hybrid mania settle down, when fuel cells are feasible ?[/color]


It won't be too long now.

We just delivered 2 Highlander hybrids...

"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.03.03.16.00.139045@Trueno.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:19:38 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.07.02.18.41.07.443139@Trueno.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:17:21 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or
>>>>>> manual xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius or
>>>>>> (gasp) Honda Element ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this
>>>>> means great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage.
>>>> My only caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable
>>>> roll. Other than that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is
>>>> hubby's car)
>>>
>>> No, no, no, Natalie! Sheesh! I wasn't saying, "Don't onw one" I was
>>> saying "Don't own one" in response to the OP's question, "Anybody here
>>> own one". So, I meant "*I* don't own one!!!"[/color]
>>
>> But..but...you implied my Echo doesn't have testicular fortitude! It
>> *does!*[/color]
>
> Do you have an A/T or a 5 sp. They ARE pretty quick on the pickup due to
> the gearing. But, it is basically the same car as my '95 Tercel, and while
> it ran tops, I wouldn't put it up against my ae86 or even a Corolla "S".
>[/color]
Automatic, but I'm not certified through NASCAR, so it's enough for me[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Now take it back![/color]
>>
>> Not till you recant that grievous insult to my Echo![/color]
>
> I didn't insult it. I merely meant to imply they can't get out of their
> own way! ;)
>[/color]
*fwap*
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> We have an xA on the lot. Under the new regime, I doubt I'll get to
>>> drive it. Under the old regime, I probably could have borrowed ti to go
>>> tolunch when my Celica broke down yesterday. I would LOVE to be able to
>>> take it for a spin. I only wish Toyota had put a more 'aggressive'
>>> engine in it!
>>>[/color]
>> Hey, leave your issues out when discussing my Echo...[/color]
>
> Basicall, the same car.
>[/color]
*whistling innocently*[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I like
>>>>> 2D coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice power,
>>>>> decent economy.
>>>>
>>>> Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...
>>>
>>>
>>> Shouldn't be too much more than the current Corolla![/color]
>>
>> Like I'd have that one either![/color]
>
> Believe it or not, the Corolla "S" is a nice quick car! Can't wait till we
> get an XRs...
>[/color]
Corollas and Camrys are just too common. I must see at least 10 of each of
those per day. Why be ordinary? Bob and I love strange-looking vehicles, as
they seem less hum-drum[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

*snip*[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>
>>>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd wait
>>>>> thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>>>>>
>>>> Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?
>>>>
>>>> Search the posts here for it
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> That's why I'd wait. Actually, we have quite a few of them in and out,
>>> and I like it. A little unnerving the way they start and run, but cool
>>> little cars. I call 'em Japanese Beetles due to the design...
>>>[/color]
>> LOL nah, they're much better made than VWs will ever be
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
>
> But they LOOK like Japanese beetles![/color]

Heh - guess I've never seen a Japanese beetle

Natalie

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:46:03 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.03.03.16.00.139045@Trueno.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:19:38 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2005.07.02.18.41.07.443139@Trueno.GTS...
>>>> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:17:21 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> What are owner (or future owners) impressions of the xA (auto or
>>>>>>> manual xmission) get a good deal on it, did you consider the Prius
>>>>>>> or (gasp) Honda Element ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't own one. The xA is loosely based on the Echo platform, this
>>>>>> means great economy, lousy power. (So is the xB...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit, Corolla-boy. I love both the Echo *and* the Xa's mileage.
>>>>> My only caveat about the Xa is the stiff steering and considerable
>>>>> roll. Other than that, the Xa rawks just as much as my Echo (Xa is
>>>>> hubby's car)
>>>>
>>>> No, no, no, Natalie! Sheesh! I wasn't saying, "Don't onw one" I was
>>>> saying "Don't own one" in response to the OP's question, "Anybody here
>>>> own one". So, I meant "*I* don't own one!!!"
>>>
>>> But..but...you implied my Echo doesn't have testicular fortitude! It
>>> *does!*[/color]
>>
>> Do you have an A/T or a 5 sp. They ARE pretty quick on the pickup due to
>> the gearing. But, it is basically the same car as my '95 Tercel, and
>> while it ran tops, I wouldn't put it up against my ae86 or even a
>> Corolla "S".
>>[/color]
> Automatic, but I'm not certified through NASCAR, so it's enough for me[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>> Now take it back!
>>>
>>> Not till you recant that grievous insult to my Echo![/color]
>>
>> I didn't insult it. I merely meant to imply they can't get out of their
>> own way! ;)
>>[/color]
> *fwap*
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> We have an xA on the lot. Under the new regime, I doubt I'll get to
>>>> drive it. Under the old regime, I probably could have borrowed ti to
>>>> go tolunch when my Celica broke down yesterday. I would LOVE to be
>>>> able to take it for a spin. I only wish Toyota had put a more
>>>> 'aggressive' engine in it!
>>>>
>>> Hey, leave your issues out when discussing my Echo...[/color]
>>
>> Basicall, the same car.
>>[/color]
> *whistling innocently*[color=green]
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>>>> If I was unassing my ducats, I'd look at the tC first; course, I
>>>>>> like 2D coupes. Next would be the Matrix; plenty of room, nice
>>>>>> power, decent economy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice and high insurance and maintenance costs...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't be too much more than the current Corolla!
>>>
>>> Like I'd have that one either![/color]
>>
>> Believe it or not, the Corolla "S" is a nice quick car! Can't wait till
>> we get an XRs...
>>[/color]
> Corollas and Camrys are just too common. I must see at least 10 of each
> of those per day. Why be ordinary? Bob and I love strange-looking
> vehicles, as they seem less hum-drum[/color]

Look these up in Google images:

1982 Tercel hatchback
1969 Subaru 360
1973 Volvo 1800ES
1991 Toyota Sera
1958 BMW Isetta
1966 Toyota 600 Sport (or was that Sport 600?)
1970 Honda Life

I had the 1800ES and a friend had the Life.

Oh, and who could forget the Pacer?

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>>[/color][/color]
> *snip*[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expect to PAY for a Prius; every one we get is long sold. And I'd
>>>>>> wait thill the State Of The Art of hybrids settles a little...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Did you see where the Prius' computer was effing up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Search the posts here for it
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> That's why I'd wait. Actually, we have quite a few of them in and out,
>>>> and I like it. A little unnerving the way they start and run, but cool
>>>> little cars. I call 'em Japanese Beetles due to the design...
>>>>
>>> LOL nah, they're much better made than VWs will ever be
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>>
>> But they LOOK like Japanese beetles![/color]
>
> Heh - guess I've never seen a Japanese beetle
>
> Natalie[/color]

"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.03.04.25.50.555175@Trueno.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:46:03 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:[/color]

*snip*[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>> Corollas and Camrys are just too common. I must see at least 10 of each
>> of those per day. Why be ordinary? Bob and I love strange-looking
>> vehicles, as they seem less hum-drum[/color]
>
> Look these up in Google images:
>
> 1982 Tercel hatchback
> 1969 Subaru 360
> 1973 Volvo 1800ES
> 1991 Toyota Sera
> 1958 BMW Isetta
> 1966 Toyota 600 Sport (or was that Sport 600?)
> 1970 Honda Life
>
> I had the 1800ES and a friend had the Life.[/color]

You need to get out more[color=blue]
>
> Oh, and who could forget the Pacer?[/color]

I had it all but banished from my memory, then along came "Wayne's World", so
it's stuck in my mind again. Oh, the humanity!

Natalie, gouging out her eyes with a spoon