Tercel jacking points question

Hello -

I have a '96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on the car.
I'll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to lift
the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be
in the jacking point, so I can't put the stand there. Can I put the
stand right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or
should I position it somewhere else?

Thanks.

<joshua.hassol@volpe.dot.gov> wrote in message
news:1121869155.988718.316600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Hello -
>
> I have a '96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on the car.
> I'll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to lift
> the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be
> in the jacking point, so I can't put the stand there. Can I put the
> stand right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or
> should I position it somewhere else?
>
> Thanks.
>[/color]
I would not put the jack stand next to the jacking point along the pinch
weld unless the stand has a slot to accommodate the pinch weld. If you
lower the car so that the pinch weld itself rests on the jack stand, you
will bend the pinched metal. The jack that comes with the car has a slot in
it so that the weight of the car rests on the flat metal on either side of
the pinch weld.

In front, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension, engine,
and/or transmission are bolted to the undercarriage.

In the rear, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension is
attached. If the car has a solid beam between the rear wheels, the beam is
a good spot.
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Ray O
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Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> I would not put the jack stand next to the jacking point along the pinch
> weld unless the stand has a slot to accommodate the pinch weld. If you
> lower the car so that the pinch weld itself rests on the jack stand, you
> will bend the pinched metal. The jack that comes with the car has a slot in
> it so that the weight of the car rests on the flat metal on either side of
> the pinch weld.
>
> In front, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension, engine,
> and/or transmission are bolted to the undercarriage.
>
> In the rear, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension is
> attached. If the car has a solid beam between the rear wheels, the beam is
> a good spot.
> --
> Ray O
> correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]

Thanks for the advice. The car does have a solid beam between the
wheels. My only remaining question is, with one wheel lifted off the
ground using a scissor jack, is it safe to go under the car to position
the jack stands? I'll chock the wheels, of course, and put on the
parking brake and put the car in gear.

<joshua.hassol@volpe.dot.gov> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> I would not put the jack stand next to the jacking point along the pinch
>> weld unless the stand has a slot to accommodate the pinch weld. If you
>> lower the car so that the pinch weld itself rests on the jack stand, you
>> will bend the pinched metal. The jack that comes with the car has a slot
>> in
>> it so that the weight of the car rests on the flat metal on either side
>> of
>> the pinch weld.
>>
>> In front, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension, engine,
>> and/or transmission are bolted to the undercarriage.
>>
>> In the rear, good spots for jack stands are where the suspension is
>> attached. If the car has a solid beam between the rear wheels, the beam
>> is
>> a good spot.
>> --
>> Ray O
>> correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
>
> Thanks for the advice. The car does have a solid beam between the
> wheels. My only remaining question is, with one wheel lifted off the
> ground using a scissor jack, is it safe to go under the car to position
> the jack stands? I'll chock the wheels, of course, and put on the
> parking brake and put the car in gear.
>[/color]
It is never safe to crawl under a vehicle supported only by a jack. That
said, I will reach under a vehicle making sure that only my arm is under the
vehicle to place a jack stand. I'm not sure that you can lift a vehicle
enough with a scissors jack to actually get jack stands underneath, unless
they are very low stands.
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"joshua.hassol" wrote:[color=blue]
>Hello -
>
>I have a ’96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on
>the car.
> I’ll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to
>lift
>the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be
>in the jacking point, so I can’t put the stand there. Can I put
>the
>stand right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or
>should I position it somewhere else?
>
>Thanks.[/color]

Place a jack stand under the axle or control arm for the wheel you are
working on and then jack it done some so it is being held in in two
places for added safety as they will not both fail at once.

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"Ray O" wrote:[color=blue]
><joshua.hassol@volpe.dot.gov> wrote in message
>news:1121872454.978983.171650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I would not put the jack stand next to the jacking point[/color][/color]
>along the pinch[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> weld unless the stand has a slot to accommodate the pinch[/color][/color]
>weld. If you[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> lower the car so that the pinch weld itself rests on the jack[/color][/color]
>stand, you[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> will bend the pinched metal. The jack that comes with the[/color][/color]
>car has a slot[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> in
>>> it so that the weight of the car rests on the flat metal on[/color][/color]
>either side[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> of
>>> the pinch weld.
>>>
>>> In front, good spots for jack stands are where the[/color][/color]
>suspension, engine,[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> and/or transmission are bolted to the undercarriage.
>>>
>>> In the rear, good spots for jack stands are where the[/color][/color]
>suspension is[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> attached. If the car has a solid beam between the rear[/color][/color]
>wheels, the beam[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> is
>>> a good spot.
>>> --
>>> Ray O
>>> correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
>>
>> Thanks for the advice. The car does have a solid beam between[/color]
>the[color=green]
>> wheels. My only remaining question is, with one wheel lifted off[/color]
>the[color=green]
>> ground using a scissor jack, is it safe to go under the car to[/color]
>position[color=green]
>> the jack stands? I’ll chock the wheels, of course, and put[/color]
>on the[color=green]
>> parking brake and put the car in gear.
>>[/color]
>It is never safe to crawl under a vehicle supported only by a jack.
>That
>said, I will reach under a vehicle making sure that only my arm is
>under the
>vehicle to place a jack stand. I’m not sure that you can lift a
>vehicle
>enough with a scissors jack to actually get jack stands underneath,
>unless
>they are very low stands.[/color]

Thats way I would put it under the control arm. My son has a Tercel
and we just did a brake job on it the way.

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SnoMan wrote:[color=blue]
> "joshua.hassol" wrote:[color=green]
> >Hello -
> >
> >I have a '96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on
> >the car.
> > I'll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to
> >lift
> >the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be
> >in the jacking point, so I can't put the stand there. Can I put
> >the
> >stand right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or
> >should I position it somewhere else?
> >
> >Thanks.[/color]
>
> Place a jack stand under the axle or control arm for the wheel you are
> working on and then jack it done some so it is being held in in two
> places for added safety as they will not both fail at once.
>
>I didn't realize the control arm was strong enough to support that much weight.[/color]

SnoMan wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> Place a jack stand under the axle or control arm for the wheel you are
> working on and then jack it done some so it is being held in in two
> places for added safety as they will not both fail at once.
>
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I didn't realize the control arm was strong enough to support that much
weight.

"joshua.hassol" wrote:[color=blue]
>
>I didn’t realize the control arm was strong enough to support
>that much weight.[/color]
The lower control arm holds the weight of the arm and road stress. It
is quite strong.

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I always lay the wheel I have taken off under the edge of the car as well as
jack stands. Better to wreck a rim than have the car fall on me.
John
"hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.21.01.15.27.929247@Trueno.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:19:16 -0700, joshua.hassol wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hello -
>>
>> I have a '96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on the car.
>> I'll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to lift
>> the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be in
>> the jacking point, so I can't put the stand there. Can I put the stand
>> right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or should I
>> position it somewhere else?
>>
>> Thanks.[/color]
>
> Unless I am stuck somewhere, I use a hydraulic jack and jack stands. I got
> my jack a the Evil Wal-Mart for $39, it has a safety bar that goes into a
> hole under the jacking arm. I jack the car up, and then use jack stands
> that have a wide enough top to accomodate the 'frame rails', underneath
> the car. These are stmpings in the steel floor pan the look like frame
> rails. I jack the car, place the jack stand, insert the safety bar and
> then lower the car until it contact the jack stand, and then raise the
> jack to make sure all of the weight is neither on the jack or the stand.
>
> And block the wheel opposite from the corner of the car you are jacking,
> too. Yeah, I'm paranoid, but even a light car weighs well over a half a
> ton.
>
> I did my brakes and my exhaust on a '95 Tercel this way.[/color]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:18:24 +0000, Johnnyboy wrote:
[color=blue]
> I always lay the wheel I have taken off under the edge of the car as well as
> jack stands. Better to wreck a rim than have the car fall on me.
> John[/color]

Ja, dot too...!

[color=blue]
> "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.21.01.15.27.929247@Trueno.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:19:16 -0700, joshua.hassol wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hello -
>>>
>>> I have a '96 Tercel DX coupe. I want to do some brake work on the car.
>>> I'll work on one wheel at a time. If I use my scissors jack to lift
>>> the car, where can I position a jack stand? The scissor jack will be in
>>> the jacking point, so I can't put the stand there. Can I put the stand
>>> right next to the jacking point, along the same pinch weld? Or should I
>>> position it somewhere else?
>>>
>>> Thanks.[/color]
>>
>> Unless I am stuck somewhere, I use a hydraulic jack and jack stands. I got
>> my jack a the Evil Wal-Mart for $39, it has a safety bar that goes into a
>> hole under the jacking arm. I jack the car up, and then use jack stands
>> that have a wide enough top to accomodate the 'frame rails', underneath
>> the car. These are stmpings in the steel floor pan the look like frame
>> rails. I jack the car, place the jack stand, insert the safety bar and
>> then lower the car until it contact the jack stand, and then raise the
>> jack to make sure all of the weight is neither on the jack or the stand.
>>
>> And block the wheel opposite from the corner of the car you are jacking,
>> too. Yeah, I'm paranoid, but even a light car weighs well over a half a
>> ton.
>>
>> I did my brakes and my exhaust on a '95 Tercel this way.[/color][/color]