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Old 07-22-2005, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1994 Toyota Chaser Strikes Again

My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the window, a
fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas inside the car.
It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should I start
looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks anywhere on the
car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
in advance. 8O

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Old 07-22-2005, 02:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...[color=blue]
> My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the window, a
> fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas inside the car.
> It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should I start
> looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks anywhere on the
> car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
> in advance. 8O
>[/color]

Start with the charcoal canister.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"" wrote:[color=blue]
> "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...[color=green]
> > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the[/color]
> window, a[color=green]
> > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas[/color]
> inside the car.[color=green]
> > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should[/color]
> I start[color=green]
> > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks[/color]
> anywhere on the[color=green]
> > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be[/color]
> appreciated, thanks[color=green]
> > in advance. 8O
> >[/color]
>
> Start with the charcoal canister.
> --
> Ray O
> correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]

Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most I can get
out of the Japanese locals is it’s under the hood. I don’t even know
what it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little to no
help at all.

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Old 07-28-2005, 01:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "" wrote:[color=green]
> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...[color=darkred]
> > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the[/color]
> > window, a[color=darkred]
> > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas[/color]
> > inside the car.[color=darkred]
> > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should[/color]
> > I start[color=darkred]
> > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks[/color]
> > anywhere on the[color=darkred]
> > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be[/color]
> > appreciated, thanks[color=darkred]
> > > in advance. 8O
> > >[/color]
> >
> > Start with the charcoal canister.
> > --
> > Ray O
> > correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
>
> Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most I can get
> out of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't even know
> what it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little to no
> help at all.
>[/color]

You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn wo me-say-tay
koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal canister."

Or

Open the hood and look for the top of a canister (the body may be underneath
sheet metal) with vacuum hoses leading into the top. One of the hoses will
lead towards the gas tank and disappear under the firewall and another will
go towards the intake.
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <e2915$42e86742$180fead6$25650@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...[color=green]
> > "" wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
> > > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the
> > > window, a
> > > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
> > > inside the car.
> > > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should
> > > I start
> > > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
> > > anywhere on the
> > > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
> > > appreciated, thanks
> > > > in advance. 8O
> > > >
> > >
> > > Start with the charcoal canister.
> > > --
> > > Ray O
> > > correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
> >
> > Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most I can get
> > out of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't even know
> > what it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little to no
> > help at all.
> >[/color]
>
> You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn wo me-say-tay
> koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal canister."[/color]

Unless he thinks you are using an Americanism ("can") for "benjo". <grin>
 
Old 07-31-2005, 02:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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"" wrote:[color=blue]
> In article
> <e2915$42e86742$180fead6$25650@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...[color=darkred]
> > > "" wrote:
> > > > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
> > > > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes,[/color][/color]
> then the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > window, a
> > > > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
> > > > inside the car.
> > > > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world[/color][/color]
> should[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > I start
> > > > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
> > > > anywhere on the
> > > > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
> > > > appreciated, thanks
> > > > > in advance. 8O
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Start with the charcoal canister.
> > > > --
> > > > Ray O
> > > > correct the return address punctuation to reply
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most[/color][/color]
> I can get[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > out of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I[/color][/color]
> don't even know[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > what it looks like. I tried to google it but that was[/color][/color]
> little to no[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > help at all.
> > >[/color]
> >
> > You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn[/color]
> wo me-say-tay[color=green]
> > koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal[/color]
> canister."
>
> Unless he thinks you are using an Americanism ("can") for
> "benjo". <grin>[/color]

Well... Armed with my new Japanese sentence and my already broken
Japanese I set out on my journey. This is what I found.

#1. I should stick to speaking english! The mechanic just assumed
that I could speak japanese fluently and started talking away.
Needless to say I stopped him and got him to slow waaaaay down.

#2. The ’94 Chaser does not have a charcoal canister.

#3. The fuel leak has mistified 5 mechanics now and after all of us
chased the fuel line and found nothing we gave up.

#4. I will probably junk the car after I make one last attempt to find
the leak. It is going to cost to much to have someone trouble shoot
it and fix it. I guess being out $2700 bucks after having the car a
full year ain’t bad. Oh well. Now I’m on to fix my damn Nissan’s
radiator fan. Man life is swell :o

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Old 07-31-2005, 03:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_639276_27a1f7c05120919e9027f5c4ff64a931@autoforumz.com...[color=blue]
> "" wrote:[color=green]
> > In article
> > <e2915$42e86742$180fead6$25650@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> > "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOT.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...
> > > > "" wrote:
> > > > > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
> > > > > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes,[/color]
> > then the[color=darkred]
> > > > > window, a
> > > > > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
> > > > > inside the car.
> > > > > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world[/color]
> > should[color=darkred]
> > > > > I start
> > > > > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
> > > > > anywhere on the
> > > > > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
> > > > > appreciated, thanks
> > > > > > in advance. 8O
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Start with the charcoal canister.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ray O
> > > > > correct the return address punctuation to reply
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most[/color]
> > I can get[color=darkred]
> > > > out of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I[/color]
> > don't even know[color=darkred]
> > > > what it looks like. I tried to google it but that was[/color]
> > little to no[color=darkred]
> > > > help at all.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn[/color]
> > wo me-say-tay[color=darkred]
> > > koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal[/color]
> > canister."
> >
> > Unless he thinks you are using an Americanism ("can") for
> > "benjo". <grin>[/color]
>
> Well... Armed with my new Japanese sentence and my already broken
> Japanese I set out on my journey. This is what I found.
>
> #1. I should stick to speaking english! The mechanic just assumed
> that I could speak japanese fluently and started talking away.
> Needless to say I stopped him and got him to slow waaaaay down.
>[/color]

LOL! Although I speak Japanese fluently, my Japanese reading is about
kindegarten or 1st grade. I can read all 50 Katakana, all 50 Hiragana, and
maybe 50 or 75 out of the 8,000 Kanji characters.

When I went to Japan for a dealer convention, my co-workers would ask me to
ask for directions at the train station. So, I'd go ask someone in
Japanese, they'd look at me like I was an idiot, and point to the map or
directional signs. So, after that embarrassing moment, I had my Caucasian
friends do the asking.
[color=blue]
> #2. The '94 Chaser does not have a charcoal canister.[/color]

Must be a U.S. thing.
[color=blue]
>
> #3. The fuel leak has mistified 5 mechanics now and after all of us
> chased the fuel line and found nothing we gave up.
>
> #4. I will probably junk the car after I make one last attempt to find
> the leak. It is going to cost to much to have someone trouble shoot
> it and fix it. I guess being out $2700 bucks after having the car a
> full year ain't bad. Oh well. Now I'm on to fix my damn Nissan's
> radiator fan. Man life is swell :o
>[/color]

If fuel is not leaking from the line or the tank and the fuel cap is good
(you should hear the "whoosh" when you open the cap on a hot day with the
tank almost empty) then the car is probably misfiring.
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Old 07-31-2005, 08:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:00:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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> news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...[color=green]
>> "" wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
>> > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the
>> > window, a
>> > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
>> > inside the car.
>> > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should
>> > I start
>> > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
>> > anywhere on the
>> > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
>> > appreciated, thanks
>> > > in advance. 8O
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Start with the charcoal canister.
>> > --
>> > Ray O
>> > correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
>>
>> Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most I can get out
>> of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't even know what
>> it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little to no help at
>> all.
>>
>>[/color]
> You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn wo me-say-tay
> koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal canister."[/color]

I think "Please show me your tits" would be a better phrase to learn!
[color=blue]
>
> Or
>
> Open the hood and look for the top of a canister (the body may be
> underneath sheet metal) with vacuum hoses leading into the top. One of
> the hoses will lead towards the gas tank and disappear under the firewall
> and another will go towards the intake.[/color]

 
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> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:00:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
>> news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...[color=darkred]
>>> "" wrote:
>>> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
>>> > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes, then the
>>> > window, a
>>> > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
>>> > inside the car.
>>> > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world should
>>> > I start
>>> > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
>>> > anywhere on the
>>> > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
>>> > appreciated, thanks
>>> > > in advance. 8O
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > Start with the charcoal canister.
>>> > --
>>> > Ray O
>>> > correct the return address punctuation to reply
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most I can get out
>>> of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't even know what
>>> it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little to no help at
>>> all.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn wo me-say-tay
>> koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal canister."[/color]
>
> I think "Please show me your tits" would be a better phrase to learn!
>[/color]

Only along with "I want to call my embassy!"
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"" wrote:[color=blue]
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> news:pan.2005.07.31.13.00.02.348461@Trueno.GTS...
>[color=green]
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:00:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...
> >>> "" wrote:
> >>> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> >>> >
> >>> > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
> >>> > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes,[/color][/color]
> then the[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> > window, a
> >>> > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
> >>> > inside the car.
> >>> > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world[/color][/color]
> should[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> > I start
> >>> > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
> >>> > anywhere on the
> >>> > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
> >>> > appreciated, thanks
> >>> > > in advance. 8O
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > Start with the charcoal canister.
> >>> > --
> >>> > Ray O
> >>> > correct the return address punctuation to reply
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most[/color][/color]
> I can get out[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't[/color][/color]
> even know what[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little[/color][/color]
> to no help at[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>> all.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn[/color][/color]
> wo me-say-tay[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal[/color][/color]
> canister."[color=green]
> >
> > I think "Please show me your tits" would be a better phrase[/color]
> to learn![color=green]
> >[/color]
>
> Only along with "I want to call my embassy!"
> --
> Ray O
> correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]

The drama continues. I took the car to the hobby shop and started
tearing it apart. Things got interesting fast.

Where it looks like the fuel line comes straight up from the
underneath side of the car, on the passenger side, there was a very
well hidden treasure. After taking the wheel well out and some
retarted looking cover there was the coveted charcoal canister. Now,
unless your lucky, like I was, you would have never looked there b/c
of the way the fuel line runs. Doesn’t even look like the fuel line
makes it to the canister! Very weird. This was overlooked by all b/c
we assumed, don’t ever do that, that there was nothing underneath the
cover.

So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and put it
on my car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I don’t think it
helped. The wife and I took a cruise around town and there was still
a noticable gas smell inside the car. The smell is still just with
the A/C on.

I looked at the miss firing scenario and replaced the spark plugs in
the process. Every one of them were charcoal black.

The fuel tank shows no signs of leaking, I can’t find a leak in the
line and now the charcoal canister has been replaced. The A/C vent
is opening and closing when you switch between recycled air and
outside air. The smell is not in the seats or carpet. I’m still at
a loss. As well as everyone I talk to. The car is running sound as
can be, at least from the mechanical standpoint.

Oh, and just as I pulled into the parking space a light in the shape
of a car with lines on the back, as if the brake lights were out, came
on. What the poop is that one.

Well, I’ve got to go to work for now. Hopefully I’ll get to look at
it again later today. Thanks for all the help so far.

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"americanjap" wrote:[color=blue]
> The drama continues. I took the car to the hobby shop and
> started tearing it apart. Things got interesting fast.
>
> Where it looks like the fuel line comes straight up from the
> underneath side of the car, on the passenger side, there was a
> very well hidden treasure. After taking the wheel well out
> and some retarted looking cover there was the coveted charcoal
> canister. Now, unless your lucky, like I was, you would have
> never looked there b/c of the way the fuel line runs. Doesn't
> even look like the fuel line makes it to the canister! Very
> weird. This was overlooked by all b/c we assumed, don't ever
> do that, that there was nothing underneath the cover.
>
> So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and
> put it on my car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I
> don't think it helped. The wife and I took a cruise around
> town and there was still a noticable gas smell inside the car.
> The smell is still just with the A/C on.
>
> I looked at the miss firing scenario and replaced the spark
> plugs in the process. Every one of them were charcoal black.
>
> The fuel tank shows no signs of leaking, I can't find a leak
> in the line and now the charcoal canister has been replaced.
> The A/C vent is opening and closing when you switch between
> recycled air and outside air. The smell is not in the seats
> or carpet. I'm still at a loss. As well as everyone I talk
> to. The car is running sound as can be, at least from the
> mechanical standpoint.
>
> Oh, and just as I pulled into the parking space a light in the
> shape of a car with lines on the back, as if the brake lights
> were out, came on. What the poop is that one.
>
> Well, I've got to go to work for now. Hopefully I'll get to
> look at it again later today. Thanks for all the help so far.[/color]

Well, it’s been two days and the gas smell is still there. The
charcoal caninster must not have been the problem.

Ok, I decided to edit this post b/c I went back and read what you said
Ray O about the car misfiring. Wouldn’t I be able to tell if it was
misfiring? Wouldn’t there be a noticeble power loss or excessive gas
consumption?

Also, could the fuel pressure regulator be the problem if it is
operating at to high a pressure?

Someone also said to check the gas cap. It was good. When I opened
it I heard the vaccum sound.

Thanks again for all the help. Sorry if I’m a little erratic at times
with my post but working 12+ hours a day on aircraft my brain becomes
a little mushy and I don’t remember everything. 8O
 
Old 08-04-2005, 12:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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"americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_640880_dad7adad05e39b191c482454908196e3@autoforumz.com...[color=blue]
> "" wrote:[/color]

<snip>
[color=blue]
>
> So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and put it
> on my car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I don't think it
> helped. The wife and I took a cruise around town and there was still
> a noticable gas smell inside the car. The smell is still just with
> the A/C on.[/color]

OK, get some Lysol or spray disinfectant, turn on the AC and set to recirc.
Under the passenger seat, spary the disinfectant into the intake - watch
your eyes and nose! See if the smell goes away- it could just be gunk on
the AC evaperator.
[color=blue]
>
> I looked at the miss firing scenario and replaced the spark plugs in
> the process. Every one of them were charcoal black.[/color]

Black spark plugs are either too rich mixture or misfire. More likely too
rich.
[color=blue]
>
> The fuel tank shows no signs of leaking, I can't find a leak in the
> line and now the charcoal canister has been replaced. The A/C vent
> is opening and closing when you switch between recycled air and
> outside air. The smell is not in the seats or carpet. I'm still at
> a loss. As well as everyone I talk to. The car is running sound as
> can be, at least from the mechanical standpoint.
>
> Oh, and just as I pulled into the parking space a light in the shape
> of a car with lines on the back, as if the brake lights were out, came
> on. What the poop is that one.
>
> Well, I've got to go to work for now. Hopefully I'll get to look at
> it again later today. Thanks for all the help so far.
>[/color]

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Old 08-04-2005, 12:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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"americanjap" <DoNotEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
news:1_641951_c72516c40245c3a54c51291b8eb1b75f@autoforumz.com...[color=blue]
> "americanjap" wrote:[color=green]
> > The drama continues. I took the car to the hobby shop and
> > started tearing it apart. Things got interesting fast.
> >
> > Where it looks like the fuel line comes straight up from the
> > underneath side of the car, on the passenger side, there was a
> > very well hidden treasure. After taking the wheel well out
> > and some retarted looking cover there was the coveted charcoal
> > canister. Now, unless your lucky, like I was, you would have
> > never looked there b/c of the way the fuel line runs. Doesn't
> > even look like the fuel line makes it to the canister! Very
> > weird. This was overlooked by all b/c we assumed, don't ever
> > do that, that there was nothing underneath the cover.
> >
> > So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and
> > put it on my car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I
> > don't think it helped. The wife and I took a cruise around
> > town and there was still a noticable gas smell inside the car.
> > The smell is still just with the A/C on.
> >
> > I looked at the miss firing scenario and replaced the spark
> > plugs in the process. Every one of them were charcoal black.
> >
> > The fuel tank shows no signs of leaking, I can't find a leak
> > in the line and now the charcoal canister has been replaced.
> > The A/C vent is opening and closing when you switch between
> > recycled air and outside air. The smell is not in the seats
> > or carpet. I'm still at a loss. As well as everyone I talk
> > to. The car is running sound as can be, at least from the
> > mechanical standpoint.
> >
> > Oh, and just as I pulled into the parking space a light in the
> > shape of a car with lines on the back, as if the brake lights
> > were out, came on. What the poop is that one.
> >
> > Well, I've got to go to work for now. Hopefully I'll get to
> > look at it again later today. Thanks for all the help so far.[/color]
>
> Well, it's been two days and the gas smell is still there. The
> charcoal caninster must not have been the problem.
>
> Ok, I decided to edit this post b/c I went back and read what you said
> Ray O about the car misfiring. Wouldn't I be able to tell if it was
> misfiring? Wouldn't there be a noticeble power loss or excessive gas
> consumption?[/color]

Misfiring would probably cause performance issues. Too rich mixture may
not. The increase in gas consumption may not be noticeable, only 2-3 MPG.
[color=blue]
>
> Also, could the fuel pressure regulator be the problem if it is
> operating at to high a pressure?
>[/color]
Possibly, not likely.
[color=blue]
> Someone also said to check the gas cap. It was good. When I opened
> it I heard the vaccum sound.[/color]

That is good.
[color=blue]
>
> Thanks again for all the help. Sorry if I'm a little erratic at times
> with my post but working 12+ hours a day on aircraft my brain becomes
> a little mushy and I don't remember everything. 8O[/color]
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:36:59 -0400, americanjap wrote:
[color=blue]
> "" wrote:[color=green]
> > "hachiroku" <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2005.07.31.13.00.02.348461@Trueno.GTS...
> >[color=darkred]
> > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:00:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1_637156_7da37f68c2ba36ab23bd816fa093dbb9@autoforumz.com...
> > >>> "" wrote:
> > >>> > "americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
> > >>> >
> > >>> > news:1_634155_03e76bc2db921eca4a96ab69db58ce01@autoforumz.com...
> > >>> > > My Chaser is killing me slowly. First the brakes,[/color]
> > then the[color=darkred]
> > >>> > window, a
> > >>> > > fouled spark plug and now..... There is an odor of gas
> > >>> > inside the car.
> > >>> > > It is coming from the A/C vents. Where in the world[/color]
> > should[color=darkred]
> > >>> > I start
> > >>> > > looking for this problem? There are no visual leaks
> > >>> > anywhere on the
> > >>> > > car and nothing on the ground. Any help would be
> > >>> > appreciated, thanks
> > >>> > > in advance. 8O
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > Start with the charcoal canister.
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > Ray O
> > >>> > correct the return address punctuation to reply
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone know where the charcoal canister is? The most[/color]
> > I can get out[color=darkred]
> > >>> of the Japanese locals is it's under the hood. I don't[/color]
> > even know what[color=darkred]
> > >>> it looks like. I tried to google it but that was little[/color]
> > to no help at[color=darkred]
> > >>> all.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> You can say "sumi no can wo misete kudasai" (sue-me no cahn[/color]
> > wo me-say-tay[color=darkred]
> > >> koo-dah-sai), which means "please show me the charcoal[/color]
> > canister."[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > I think "Please show me your tits" would be a better phrase[/color]
> > to learn![color=darkred]
> > >
> > >[/color]
> > Only along with "I want to call my embassy!" --
> > Ray O
> > correct the return address punctuation to reply[/color]
>
> The drama continues. I took the car to the hobby shop and started tearing
> it apart. Things got interesting fast.
>
> Where it looks like the fuel line comes straight up from the underneath
> side of the car, on the passenger side, there was a very well hidden
> treasure. After taking the wheel well out and some retarted looking cover
> there was the coveted charcoal canister. Now, unless your lucky, like I
> was, you would have never looked there b/c of the way the fuel line runs.
> Doesn’t even look like the fuel line makes it to the canister! Very
> weird. This was overlooked by all b/c we assumed, don’t ever do that,
> that there was nothing underneath the cover.
>
> So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and put it on my
> car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I don’t think it helped.
> The wife and I took a cruise around town and there was still a noticable
> gas smell inside the car. The smell is still just with the A/C on.
>
> I looked at the miss firing scenario and replaced the spark plugs in the
> process. Every one of them were charcoal black.
>
> The fuel tank shows no signs of leaking, I can’t find a leak in the line
> and now the charcoal canister has been replaced. The A/C vent is opening
> and closing when you switch between recycled air and outside air. The
> smell is not in the seats or carpet. I’m still at a loss. As well as
> everyone I talk to. The car is running sound as can be, at least from the
> mechanical standpoint.
>
> Oh, and just as I pulled into the parking space a light in the shape of a
> car with lines on the back, as if the brake lights were out, came on.
> What the poop is that one.
>
> Well, I’ve got to go to work for now. Hopefully I’ll get to look at it
> again later today. Thanks for all the help so far.[/color]


This is an interesting problem, because my Mom's '86 Camry has the exact
same problem...there is only a gas smell when the AC is on.

She has taken it to the local Toy dealer here three times, and they tell
her there is nothing wrong with the car!

Either there really IS nothing wrong with the car, and it is just
something they can't fix, or it is a problem that really isn't a problem,
or it is a problem that really IS a problem and they just don't want to
bother. Perhaps I smell an unperformed, PITA recall? She just smells gas...
 
Old 08-08-2005, 01:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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[quote="Ray O"]"americanjap" <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote
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<snip>
[color=blue]
>
> So, having found it... I went to a junk yard a pulled one and put it
> on my car. The verdict is still out on the fix, but I don’t think[/color]
it[color=blue]
> helped. The wife and I took a cruise around town and there was[/color]
still[color=blue]
> a noticable gas smell inside the car. The smell is still just with
> the A/C on.[/color]

OK, get some Lysol or spray disinfectant, turn on the AC and set to
recirc.
Under the passenger seat, spary the disinfectant into the intake -
watch
your eyes and nose! See if the smell goes away- it could just be gunk
on
the AC evaperator.

I sprayed the lysol, neutra air brand, and all was good until Sunday
morning. It only last for about 2 days and it’s back to the gas
smell. Is there a A/C filter anywhere that can be replaced? If not
I’m just going with the lysol method and calling it a day. With the
neutra air there is no smell at all coming from the A/C.

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