Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you get
when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates properly
somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to get a cup of
coffee the thing was 'Smokin'!
I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal was
softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it is need
of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so hard. After
sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to let things cool
a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had returned to the brake
pedal.
I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull the
caliper and try to free the slider.
My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the slider
out, and then run through the hole with a drill of the same size, or emery
cloth or sandpaper. Thoughts?
Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in
news:pan.2005.07.23.20.29.02.125000@ae86.gts:
[color=blue]
> Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you
> get when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates
> properly somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to
> get a cup of coffee the thing was 'Smokin'![/color]
When sliders stick, they stick forever until you fix it. That's rust at
work, son.
You might also have a sticking caliper piston, which means
a rebuild (fun!).
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>
> I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal
> was softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it
> is need of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so
> hard. After sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to
> let things cool a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had
> returned to the brake pedal.
>
> I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull
> the caliper and try to free the slider.
>
> My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the
> slider out,[/color]
Vise Grips on the end. Wiggle and pull (push). In Kanada I have to live
with this as a yearly ritual.
Can I move to California now? Excessive Mexicans are preferable to
excessive snow, believe me.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:25:38 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
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> Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in
> news:pan.2005.07.23.20.29.02.125000@ae86.gts:
>[color=green]
>> Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you
>> get when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates
>> properly somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to
>> get a cup of coffee the thing was 'Smokin'![/color]
>
>
>
> When sliders stick, they stick forever until you fix it. That's rust at
> work, son.
>
> You might also have a sticking caliper piston, which means
> a rebuild (fun!).[/color]
I've already removed the caliper from the rotor once (but not from the
car...) and tried to unstick the slider with (ugh) a hammer and lots of
penetrating oil. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes it slides reluctantly.
[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal
>> was softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it
>> is need of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so
>> hard. After sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to
>> let things cool a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had
>> returned to the brake pedal.
>>
>> I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull
>> the caliper and try to free the slider.
>>
>> My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the
>> slider out,[/color]
>
>
> Vise Grips on the end. Wiggle and pull (push). In Kanada I have to live
> with this as a yearly ritual.
>
> Can I move to California now? Excessive Mexicans are preferable to
> excessive snow, believe me.[/color]
You sure about that, Teg?
Just think, I have had some really nice Toyotas, and if I lived in So.
Cal, I'd STILL have them!
Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>Thoughts?[/color]
Well, no actual, like, what you'd call *thoughts* (Hey: It's a
Samuel Adams Surridy night, fer chrissake.) but if it was my
pieceofshit, I'd call the parts house and find out when they can have a
ready-to-install caliper ready for pickup. Be sure to remove the bleed
valve from your dead one "just in case".
Gratuitous Aside: Only yesterday, I replaced a caliper on the
Detroit Iron that I'm driving. Some years ago, the plastic backing plate
of RF abraded against rotor and caught afire, burning the boot on the
brake caliper. Drove the hog 'til it quit (Hey, it'll quit rolling all
right enough when it hits something, OK?), which was just, hell,
whatever day yesterday was, you know?
At any rate, why would you piss away a day "rebuilding" a fucked up
caliper when you can replace it within 20 minutes (Supra brakes still
are those Teves knockoffs, aren't they?) and possibly spend the
remainder of the day drinking (for example), maybe even get laid (for
example), and altogether feel just as good about your miserable self
(you are the guy who posted the HTML, right?) as you would if you
actually had pissed away a day "rebuilding" a toasted caliper that you
could have replaced in 20 minutes for $51? You answer me that, now,
Binkie....
Stick with me kid, 'n' I'll learn you something about practical DIY
car care ;-)
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:17:48 +0000, Derald wrote:
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> Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Thoughts?[/color]
> Well, no actual, like, what you'd call *thoughts* (Hey: It's a
> Samuel Adams Surridy night, fer chrissake.) but if it was my pieceofshit,
> I'd call the parts house and find out when they can have a
> ready-to-install caliper ready for pickup. Be sure to remove the bleed
> valve from your dead one "just in case".
> Gratuitous Aside: Only yesterday, I replaced a caliper on the
> Detroit Iron that I'm driving. Some years ago, the plastic backing plate
> of RF abraded against rotor and caught afire, burning the boot on the
> brake caliper. Drove the hog 'til it quit (Hey, it'll quit rolling all
> right enough when it hits something, OK?), which was just, hell, whatever
> day yesterday was, you know?
> At any rate, why would you piss away a day "rebuilding" a fucked up
> caliper when you can replace it within 20 minutes (Supra brakes still are
> those Teves knockoffs, aren't they?) and possibly spend the remainder of
> the day drinking (for example), maybe even get laid (for example), and
> altogether feel just as good about your miserable self (you are the guy
> who posted the HTML, right?)[/color]
Aw, c'mon...I didn't 'post' in HTML, I just copied and pasted. It's 1985
for God's sake!
as you would if you actually had pissed away[color=blue]
> a day "rebuilding" a toasted caliper that you could have replaced in 20
> minutes for $51? You answer me that, now, Binkie....
> Stick with me kid, 'n' I'll learn you something about practical DIY
> car care ;-)[/color]
Because I can whip the wheel off and have at the caliper in about 7
minutes, and do it right in my backyard for $0. The piston is OK, I
already chaned the pads. Aside from this one I have 4 others, all also
needing various bits and pieces, so anything I can save I'll put into
another car.
And, i don't think I'm playing tomorrow (MAYBE tomorrow night) so I won't
be drinking. Try looking me up Friday morning at 1AM and see what happens
then. Crown and coke, and maybe a little Everclear just to make things
'clear'. Whoo boy...better get them brakes fixed before Thursday...
Course, Sam was what I was drinking last Friday when we actually played a
gig...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:15:05 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you get
>when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates properly
>somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to get a cup of
>coffee the thing was 'Smokin'!
>
>I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal was
>softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it is need
>of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so hard. After
>sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to let things cool
>a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had returned to the brake
>pedal.
>
>I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull the
>caliper and try to free the slider.
>
>My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the slider
>out, and then run through the hole with a drill of the same size, or emery
>cloth or sandpaper. Thoughts?
>
>Even if i mess it up, a new one is a whole $51...[/color]
Paging TeGGer, Please pick up the 'Canadian Rust' Colored Courtesy
Phone...
He's mentioned in the past that cleaning up those brake slider pin
bolts is a waste of your time and effort - just buy new ones.
I'll bet they're yellow irridite or cadmium plated (or something
else slightly exotic) and once the plating is gone they'll rust like
crazy no matter what you do. And near the brakes, grease is out.
I'm glad I don't live in rust country. ;-) It's nice living where
you regularly see 40-year-old-plus cars being used as daily drivers,
and they're not in imminent danger of the body splitting in two.
--<< Bruce >>--
--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.
"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.23.20.29.02.125000@ae86.gts...[color=blue]
> Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you get
> when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates properly
> somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to get a cup of
> coffee the thing was 'Smokin'!
>
> I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal was
> softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it is need
> of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so hard. After
> sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to let things cool
> a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had returned to the brake
> pedal.
>
> I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull the
> caliper and try to free the slider.
>
> My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the slider
> out, and then run through the hole with a drill of the same size, or emery
> cloth or sandpaper. Thoughts?
>
> Even if i mess it up, a new one is a whole $51...[/color]
I wouldn't use a drill bit. Try wrapping emery cloth around a smaller
diameter bolt and running it through. Use emery cloth on the slider bolt
and when re-lubing, use anti-seize or wheel bearing grease. Don't bother
with lithium grease - it will just melt and run off.
While you're under there, I'd give some serious thought about flushing out
the old brake fluid.
Good luck!
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:16:02 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.23.20.29.02.125000@ae86.gts...[color=green]
>> Drove the Supra today, and on the way home I noticed that smell you get
>> when a caliper is stuck. Seems the slider is stuck and operates properly
>> somketimes and not at others. When I pulled into the store to get a cup
>> of coffee the thing was 'Smokin'!
>>
>> I tapped the brakes to see if it would free things up and the pedal was
>> softer than usual. The brakes on this car are HARD; I suspect it is need
>> of a flushing (and a brake service...) since the pedal is so hard. After
>> sucking down one cup and getting another (in an effort to let things
>> cool a bit before the last mile) some of the hardness had returned to
>> the brake pedal.
>>
>> I suppose, since it's going to be a nice day tomorrow, i'd better pull
>> the caliper and try to free the slider.
>>
>> My game plan is to yank the caliper and try to press or force the slider
>> out, and then run through the hole with a drill of the same size, or
>> emery cloth or sandpaper. Thoughts?
>>
>> Even if i mess it up, a new one is a whole $51...[/color]
>
> I wouldn't use a drill bit. Try wrapping emery cloth around a smaller
> diameter bolt and running it through. Use emery cloth on the slider bolt
> and when re-lubing, use anti-seize or wheel bearing grease. Don't bother
> with lithium grease - it will just melt and run off.[/color]
My drummer suggested the same thing with the emery cloth. Seems to ne the
way to go.
[color=blue]
>
> While you're under there, I'd give some serious thought about flushing out
> the old brake fluid.[/color]
Yeah, I think this is a given, also...
[color=blue]
>
> Good luck![/color]
Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in
news:pan.2005.07.24.02.54.29.656000@ae86.gts:
[color=blue]
>
> I've already removed the caliper from the rotor once (but not from the
> car...) and tried to unstick the slider with (ugh) a hammer and lots of
> penetrating oil. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes it slides reluctantly.[/color]
Do you have the kind where there's a metal sleeve surrounded by a rubber
sleeve, with the whole works inside a hole in the caliper body?
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> Can I move to California now? Excessive Mexicans are preferable to
>> excessive snow, believe me.[/color]
>
> You sure about that, Teg?[/color]
Well, Philip tells me otherwise, so...
[color=blue]
>
> Just think, I have had some really nice Toyotas, and if I lived in So.
> Cal, I'd STILL have them!
>[/color]
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:17:48 GMT, Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>At any rate, why would you piss away a day "rebuilding" a fucked up
>caliper when you can replace it within 20 minutes (Supra brakes still
>are those Teves knockoffs, aren't they?) and possibly spend the
>remainder of the day drinking (for example), maybe even get laid (for
>example), and altogether feel just as good about your miserable self
>(you are the guy who posted the HTML, right?) as you would if you
>actually had pissed away a day "rebuilding" a toasted caliper that you
>could have replaced in 20 minutes for $51? You answer me that, now,
>Binkie....[/color]
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:55:27 +0000, Derald wrote:
[color=blue]
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>That's Charles Pisano.[/color]
> Thanks![/color]
No, this time it wasn't Charles, it was me!
My name is VASH THE STAMPEDE!! Forgive the lack of warning, but it's
time for my daily massacre! If you do not believe I am the real thing,
take a good look at me and start freaking out!! I am known as Valentinez
Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla Blue Stradivari Talentrent
Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus George Doitzel Kaiser III.
Don't hesitate to call!
hachiroku <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in
news:pan.2005.07.24.20.14.51.652041@Trueno.GTS:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:55:27 +0000, Derald wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>That's Charles Pisano.[/color]
>> Thanks![/color]
>
> No, this time it wasn't Charles, it was me!
>
> My name is VASH THE STAMPEDE!! Forgive the lack of warning, but it's
> time for my daily massacre! If you do not believe I am the real
> thing, take a good look at me and start freaking out!! I am known as
> Valentinez Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla Blue
> Stradivari Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus
> George Doitzel Kaiser III. Don't hesitate to call![/color]
Are you any relation to Steve Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla
Blue Stradivari Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus
George Doitzel Kaiser III?
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:39:17 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
[color=blue]
> hachiroku <ae86@Trueno.GTS> wrote in
> news:pan.2005.07.24.20.14.51.652041@Trueno.GTS:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:55:27 +0000, Derald wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's Charles Pisano.
>>> Thanks![/color]
>>
>> No, this time it wasn't Charles, it was me!
>>
>> My name is VASH THE STAMPEDE!! Forgive the lack of warning, but it's
>> time for my daily massacre! If you do not believe I am the real thing,
>> take a good look at me and start freaking out!! I am known as
>> Valentinez Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla Blue Stradivari
>> Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus George
>> Doitzel Kaiser III. Don't hesitate to call![/color]
>
>
>
> Are you any relation to Steve Alkalinella Xifax Sicidabohertz Gombigobilla
> Blue Stradivari Talentrent Pierre Andri Charton-Haymoss Ivanovici Baldeus
> George Doitzel Kaiser III?[/color]
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