01 Camry - Made In Japan

I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?

It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
their models. Why not the flagship Camry?

TIA

CP

"Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net...[color=blue]
>I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?
>
> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?
>
> TIA
>
> CP
>[/color]

It has to do more with volume. Originally the first Toyota produced in
America was the 1NX Corolla out of Fremont, since that was the most sold car
in the US at the time. Camrys are made in the US because they sell more
Camrys than anything else in the US. They imported the Previa (91-97)
because only about 20,000 a year sold. They are considering a plant here to
produce 3G Priuses since they are selling so many here in the US.

Charles of Kankakee

"Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net...[color=blue]
>I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?
>
> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?
>
> TIA
>
> CP
>[/color]

Something else, sometimes they supplement US production if they can't get
enough over here. I have a 93 1NX Corolla. My sister has a 95 1NX Corolla,
but her boarder has a JT2 94 Corolla made in Japan. I have seen 2xx
Corollas made in Canada, also here in the US in the late 90's.

Charles of Kankakee

"Charles @ Kankakee" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net...[color=green]
>>I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
>> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
>> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
>> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
>> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?
>>
>> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
>> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> CP
>>[/color]
>
> It has to do more with volume. Originally the first Toyota produced in
> America was the 1NX Corolla out of Fremont, since that was the most sold
> car in the US at the time. Camrys are made in the US because they sell
> more Camrys than anything else in the US. They imported the Previa
> (91-97) because only about 20,000 a year sold. They are considering a
> plant here to produce 3G Priuses since they are selling so many here in
> the US.
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

IIRC, the first Toyota-badged vehicles to come out of the NUMMI plant was
the Corolla FX 16, which was not a best-seller.

I believe all Siennas and Avalons sold in the U.S. are assembled in the U.S.

Charles of Kanakee is correct as far as volume goes. For example, if an
assembly plant has the capacity to produce 200,000 vehicles a year, the
manufacturer will produce a model that has enough demand in the local market
to be able to sell in numbers at or close to plant capacity. If another
model sells 50,000 in 1 market but 200,000 worldwide, then it would be
produced at one plant and shipped to various markets from that plant.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:00:49 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
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> I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?
>
> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?
>
> TIA
>
> CP[/color]

I can't answer your specific question, Charles, but I can provide a little
information:

I see a LOT of 00-01 Camry's with "J" vins here in MA, so I guess there is
a fair amount. I know there is a port in Long Beach and one in Newark
where the Japanese models are unloaded.

But, here's a monkey wrench: I have been seeing a LOT of '05's with "J"
vins coming in, but the Content Sticker is most revealing. "US/Canadian
parts: 75%, Japan Parts: 20%". BTW, where's the other 5% of the car! They
look whole to me!

SO, either the Marus are bringing parts back to Japan on the return trip,
or they are sending complete bodies over and installing the drive trains
in Japan. The other little bit of the Content sticker says: Origin of
Engine parts: Japan; Origin of Transmission parts: Japan. Final Assembly:
Toyota, Aichi, Japan"

So, it seems that 75% of a Japanese Camry is made up of US parts. The
reason it gets a "J" vin is due to the fact that since the final assembly
point is Japan, the Certificate of Origin is drafted in Japan, hence a "J"
vin.

Another little tid-bit: most of the "4" vin US made Camrys are the same
parts content, and not nearly so often a US made engine and tranny in a
Japanese built body! Funny, but VERY few are entirely US, since the Tacoma
has the same engine and is almost entirely US.

"Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net...[color=blue]
>I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?
>
> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?
>
> TIA
>
> CP
>[/color]

I had less problems with my American built Sienna (2005) than my Japanese
built 4Runner(2003).

In article <3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net>,
[email]pisanochas@webtv.net[/email] (Charles Pisano) wrote:
[color=blue]
> I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?[/color]

Avalons are ONLY made and sold in the U.S. They were designed in the U.S.
as well.

Until this year, the Lexus brand has never been sold in Japan.
[color=blue]
> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?[/color]

They build the cars where it makes economic sense to build the cars. I am
sure Toyota does not consider their U.S. built cars to be inferior to
their Japanese-built cars.

Merritt

Actually the Lexus models have been sold in Japan for a long time. They
were sold under the Toyota brand. . The Japanese are finding out their
people like the cashe' of an expensive car even if it is the same model
with a higher price and new badge, and slightly more standard options.


At least that is what the WSJ said about the upcoming debut of Lexus in
Japan.

"Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:mmullen8014-2A4E3F.17340810082005@netnews.asp.att.net...[color=blue]
> In article <3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net>,
> [email]pisanochas@webtv.net[/email] (Charles Pisano) wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
>> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
>> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
>> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
>> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?[/color]
>
> Avalons are ONLY made and sold in the U.S. They were designed in the U.S.
> as well.
>
> Until this year, the Lexus brand has never been sold in Japan.
>[color=green]
>> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
>> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?[/color]
>
> They build the cars where it makes economic sense to build the cars. I am
> sure Toyota does not consider their U.S. built cars to be inferior to
> their Japanese-built cars.
>
> Merritt[/color]

Lexus brand has not sold, but Lexus cars were sold, just badged as Toyotas.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:38 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
[color=blue]
> Actually the Lexus models have been sold in Japan for a long time. They
> were sold under the Toyota brand. . The Japanese are finding out their
> people like the cashe' of an expensive car even if it is the same model
> with a higher price and new badge, and slightly more standard options.
>
>
> At least that is what the WSJ said about the upcoming debut of Lexus in
> Japan.[/color]

Most of the cars sold under the Lexus badge have either been discontinued
in the US (ES300 was at one time the Corona MKII) or never sold in the US
before (SC300/400/430(?) is the JDM Soarer) the LS 400 was sold as the
Excelsior(?) and has a sister model I REALLY need to get my hands on: The
Crown Royal!!!!

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:38 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
[color=blue]
> Actually the Lexus models have been sold in Japan for a long time. They
> were sold under the Toyota brand. . The Japanese are finding out their
> people like the cashe' of an expensive car even if it is the same model
> with a higher price and new badge, and slightly more standard options.
>
>
> At least that is what the WSJ said about the upcoming debut of Lexus in
> Japan.[/color]

For a decent picture of my new Favorite Car, look in
alt.binaries.images.fun...

In article <11fmijgpjiqhq5c@news.supernews.com>,
"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:mmullen8014-2A4E3F.17340810082005@netnews.asp.att.net...[color=green]
> > In article <3512-42FA16A1-36@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net>,
> > [email]pisanochas@webtv.net[/email] (Charles Pisano) wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> I wonder how many got imported that year? Is there a way to find out?
> >> And how many in the years since, if any? I'd like to get a new sienna
> >> with a J - vin number . But I think to do that I'd have to switch to a
> >> RAV 4 to get a J . Other wise I'd have to get an Avalon or Lexus??? Or
> >> have they started makes Avalons in the U. S. as well.?[/color]
> >
> > Avalons are ONLY made and sold in the U.S. They were designed in the U.S.
> > as well.
> >
> > Until this year, the Lexus brand has never been sold in Japan.
> >[color=darkred]
> >> It also begs the question why do they chose to import the RAV 4 of all
> >> their models. Why not the flagship Camry?[/color]
> >
> > They build the cars where it makes economic sense to build the cars. I am
> > sure Toyota does not consider their U.S. built cars to be inferior to
> > their Japanese-built cars.
> >
> > Merritt[/color]
>
> Lexus brand has not sold, but Lexus cars were sold, just badged as Toyotas.[/color]

Yes, that is why I said "brand." I understand the Lexus brand is being
introduced into Japan this year.

Merritt

"HachiRoku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:EPRKe.5430$rY.4315@trndny03...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:38 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Actually the Lexus models have been sold in Japan for a long time. They
>> were sold under the Toyota brand. . The Japanese are finding out their
>> people like the cashe' of an expensive car even if it is the same model
>> with a higher price and new badge, and slightly more standard options.
>>
>>
>> At least that is what the WSJ said about the upcoming debut of Lexus in
>> Japan.[/color]
>
> Most of the cars sold under the Lexus badge have either been discontinued
> in the US (ES300 was at one time the Corona MKII) or never sold in the US
> before (SC300/400/430(?) is the JDM Soarer) the LS 400 was sold as the
> Excelsior(?) and has a sister model I REALLY need to get my hands on: The
> Crown Royal!!!![/color]

The LS 400/430 is sold as the Celsior.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:29:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "HachiRoku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:EPRKe.5430$rY.4315@trndny03...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:43:38 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Actually the Lexus models have been sold in Japan for a long time. They
>>> were sold under the Toyota brand. . The Japanese are finding out their
>>> people like the cashe' of an expensive car even if it is the same model
>>> with a higher price and new badge, and slightly more standard options.
>>>
>>>
>>> At least that is what the WSJ said about the upcoming debut of Lexus in
>>> Japan.[/color]
>>
>> Most of the cars sold under the Lexus badge have either been discontinued
>> in the US (ES300 was at one time the Corona MKII) or never sold in the US
>> before (SC300/400/430(?) is the JDM Soarer) the LS 400 was sold as the
>> Excelsior(?) and has a sister model I REALLY need to get my hands on: The
>> Crown Royal!!!![/color]
>
> The LS 400/430 is sold as the Celsior.[/color]

That's not what my EX said! (Actually, I knew something was wrong, since
most Toyota models begin with the letter "C"...) Thanks for the correction!