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#1 Old 08-14-2005, 09:17 PM
badgolferman
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transmission dipstick level reading

I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.

When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?

Am I reading the level properly or is my transmission overfilled?

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#2 Old 08-14-2005, 10:34 PM
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>
> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>
> Am I reading the level properly or is my transmission overfilled?
>
> --
> "Talking to a golf ball won't do you any good. Unless you do it while
> your opponent is teeing off."
> Bruce Lansky[/color]

The best way to check transmission fluid level is with the fluid hot.
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Ray O
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#3 Old 08-15-2005, 07:05 AM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>
> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>
> Am I reading the level properly or is my transmission overfilled?
>[/color]
Are you checking it when it is running when you say COLD?
 
#4 Old 08-15-2005, 02:50 PM
miyanjee o via CarKB.com
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

thanks for writing and asking ?

to make things very simple..

cold....level should between the two notches..of the cold
hot ..level should be between two notches of the hot.

i prefer taking the readings when engine is hot....and as long as it s not
the very bottom end.. shouldnt be a problem


miyanjee
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#5 Old 08-15-2005, 08:57 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

"miyanjee o via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:
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>thanks for writing and asking ?
>
>to make things very simple..
>
>cold....level should between the two notches..of the cold
>hot ..level should be between two notches of the hot.
>
>i prefer taking the readings when engine is hot....and as long as it s not
>the very bottom end.. shouldnt be a problem
>
>[/color]
....AND with the engine idling and in park of course!...
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#6 Old 08-15-2005, 11:43 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

In article <0sh2g1dlhsi5v4o25l04q7l8j34s3i42b5@4ax.com>,
Gord Beaman <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "miyanjee o via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> >i prefer taking the readings when engine is hot....and as long as it s not
> >the very bottom end.. shouldnt be a problem
> >
> >[/color]
> ...AND with the engine idling and in park of course!...[/color]

And after once shifting through each of the gears (at least that is how I
learned to do it).

Merritt
 
#7 Old 08-16-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>
> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>[/color]

IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.

When the trans is warmed up, the fluid is pumped into all sorts of places,
as the trans cools then the fluid drains from the far away places, and this
makes it appear as though the level has risen.

Always check the trans when warm, engine running, and it Park.

Checking when cold will tell you the color of the fluid, but not much more
unless you are a transmission guy. Ray, from the board here, will know what
he sees on a cold transmission stick, but most of us will not know. The best
information for us regular guys will come from a hot transmission.




[color=blue]
> Am I reading the level properly or is my transmission overfilled?
>
> --
> "Talking to a golf ball won't do you any good. Unless you do it while
> your opponent is teeing off."
> Bruce Lansky[/color]


 
#8 Old 08-16-2005, 06:50 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

It depends on how much too high it is. Much the same as the motor oil, it
matters how much over filled it is to know what sorts of problems there can
be.





<wenmang@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have the same problem. The ATF level always above the HOT mark
> regardless the fluid is hot or not. Is it OK?
>[/color]


 
#9 Old 08-17-2005, 12:27 AM
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"J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>
>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>[/color]
>
> IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>[/color]

So if I pull it out and it's dry then my trans will work OK?


 
#10 Old 08-17-2005, 10:51 AM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading


"Fantom" <reaper_nz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dduhql$g1p$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...[color=blue]
>
> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:2-mdnZ2dnZ2wA-WmnZ2dnVHnn96dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>>
>>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>>[/color]
>
> So if I pull it out and it's dry then my trans will work OK?
>[/color]

I didn't say that. What I said was you can't judge how much fluid to pour in
based on what the stick says when cold. If your trans isn't working right,
looking at the stick isn't the way to find out, and looking at the stick in
this case confirms your suspicions, it isn't your first indication.

When the trans is working right, and one is merely doing routine checking of
the fluid level, the correct way to make this check is when the trans is
warm.

If the trans is not working right, you usually find out when it is warm, and
waiting for it to cool before pulling the stick seems counter intuitive to
me, which makes your statement absurd.




 
#11 Old 08-17-2005, 03:57 PM
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Merritt Mullen <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <0sh2g1dlhsi5v4o25l04q7l8j34s3i42b5@4ax.com>,
> Gord Beaman <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "miyanjee o via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >i prefer taking the readings when engine is hot....and as long as it s not
>> >the very bottom end.. shouldnt be a problem
>> >
>> >[/color]
>> ...AND with the engine idling and in park of course!...[/color]
>
>And after once shifting through each of the gears (at least that is how I
>learned to do it).
>
>Merritt[/color]

Just so.
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#12 Old 08-17-2005, 03:59 PM
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"J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote:
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>
>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>
>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>[/color]
>
>IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>
>When the trans is warmed up, the fluid is pumped into all sorts of places,
>as the trans cools then the fluid drains from the far away places, and this
>makes it appear as though the level has risen.
>
>Always check the trans when warm, engine running, and it Park.
>
>Checking when cold will tell you the color of the fluid, but not much more
>unless you are a transmission guy. Ray, from the board here, will know what
>he sees on a cold transmission stick, but most of us will not know. The best
>information for us regular guys will come from a hot transmission.
>[/color]
....and Ray's keyboard.

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#13 Old 08-17-2005, 04:00 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading

"Fantom" <reaper_nz@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>"J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:2-mdnZ2dnZ2wA-WmnZ2dnVHnn96dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>>
>>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>>[/color]
>
>So if I pull it out and it's dry then my trans will work OK?
>[/color]
Well...maybe you got a point there guy... :)
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#14 Old 08-17-2005, 04:02 PM
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"J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote:
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>
>"Fantom" <reaper_nz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:dduhql$g1p$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...[color=green]
>>
>> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:2-mdnZ2dnZ2wA-WmnZ2dnVHnn96dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...
>>>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>>>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>>>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>>>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>>>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>>>
>>>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>>>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>>>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>>>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>>>
>>>
>>> IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> So if I pull it out and it's dry then my trans will work OK?
>>[/color]
>
>I didn't say that. What I said was you can't judge how much fluid to pour in
>based on what the stick says when cold. If your trans isn't working right,
>looking at the stick isn't the way to find out, and looking at the stick in
>this case confirms your suspicions, it isn't your first indication.
>
>When the trans is working right, and one is merely doing routine checking of
>the fluid level, the correct way to make this check is when the trans is
>warm.
>
>If the trans is not working right, you usually find out when it is warm, and
>waiting for it to cool before pulling the stick seems counter intuitive to
>me, which makes your statement absurd.
>
>
>[/color]
C'mon Jeff...he was likely just trying to insert some levity into
the discussion!... :)
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#15 Old 08-17-2005, 04:23 PM
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Re: transmission dipstick level reading


"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:xn0e5zxnw2uu6r7000@news.readfreenews.net...[color=darkred]
>>> I'll admit despite reading a bit and having people explain automatic
>>> transmissions to me I am clueless as to how they work and am more
>>> scared when there is a mysterious noise or funny shifting happening
>>> with the transmission than if there's a funny noise from the engine.
>>> That said, I have a question about how to read the dipstick.
>>>
>>> When the car is cold, the level appears to be above the HOT marking.
>>> After driving around for some time with the van running and in Park,
>>> the level is right at the HOT level. What is the COLD marking for and
>>> why does the level actually drop after the hydraulic fluid gets hot?
>>>[/color]
>>
>>IGNORE the dipstick when the trans is cold.
>>
>>When the trans is warmed up, the fluid is pumped into all sorts of places,
>>as the trans cools then the fluid drains from the far away places, and
>>this
>>makes it appear as though the level has risen.
>>
>>Always check the trans when warm, engine running, and it Park.
>>
>>Checking when cold will tell you the color of the fluid, but not much more
>>unless you are a transmission guy. Ray, from the board here, will know
>>what
>>he sees on a cold transmission stick, but most of us will not know. The
>>best
>>information for us regular guys will come from a hot transmission.
>>[/color]
> ....and Ray's keyboard.
>
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)[/color]

OK, I'll share the factory rep's secret for diagnosis from looking at a cold
automatic transmission dip stick:
..
..
..
..
..
..
Translucent red - fluid is OK.
Note: <fluid is OK> does not necessarily mean that the transmission is OK or
that fluid level is OK.
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
Any color but translucent red - fluid is not OK and more checking is
necessary, i.e., smell the fluid, research service and operating history,
pressure test, stall test, manual shift test.
--
Ray O
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