OT: tolerate but not condone

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The Daily Mail
09:58am 29th August 2005

You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)

A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
lesson.

The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
yesterday. They warned it would backfire.

Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.

Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.

'Tolerate but not condone'

"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
score," he wrote in the letter

"Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
of the lesson."

Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.

"This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
level," said the father of one pupil.

Should have do's and don'ts

Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
'do and don't'.

"They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.

"Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
demeaning the authority of the teacher."

Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
Wonderland reasoning'.

"What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
improve something by discouraging it."

'Praise postcards'

The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by
Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards'
to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for
lessons.

Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the
policy. "The reality is that the f-word is part of these young adults'
everyday language," he said.

"As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want
them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."


--
"The harder I work, the luckier I get." -- Gary Player

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> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>
> The Daily Mail
> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>
> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>
> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
> lesson.
>
> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>
> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>
> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>
> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>
> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
> score," he wrote in the letter
>
> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
> of the lesson."
>
> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>
> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
> level," said the father of one pupil.
>
> Should have do's and don'ts
>
> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
> 'do and don't'.
>
> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>
> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>
> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
> Wonderland reasoning'.
>
> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
> improve something by discouraging it."
>
> 'Praise postcards'
>
> The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by
> Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards'
> to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for
> lessons.
>
> Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the
> policy. "The reality is that the f-word is part of these young adults'
> everyday language," he said.
>
> "As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want
> them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."
>
>
> --
> "The harder I work, the luckier I get." -- Gary Player[/color]

Once again we are letting the inmates run the asylum.

Charles of Kankakee

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> The Daily Mail
> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>
> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>[/color]

It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F word
not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits swear at
each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for several
hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be allowed to
break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before sending him or
her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.



[color=blue]
> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
> lesson.
>
> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>
> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>
> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>[/color]

Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
disposal ...



[color=blue]
> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>
> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
> score," he wrote in the letter
>
> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
> of the lesson."
>
> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>
> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
> level," said the father of one pupil.
>
> Should have do's and don'ts
>
> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
> 'do and don't'.
>
> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>
> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>
> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
> Wonderland reasoning'.
>
> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
> improve something by discouraging it."
>[/color]

You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.

PS
I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's knuckles,
but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
across.




[color=blue]
> 'Praise postcards'
>
> The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by
> Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards'
> to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for
> lessons.
>
> Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the
> policy. "The reality is that the f-word is part of these young adults'
> everyday language," he said.
>[/color]

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. The headmaster
should be looking for a new job. Maybe he should be making rulers.



[color=blue]
> "As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want
> them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."
>[/color]

Smack the shit out of the little bastards, they'll do better.

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>> [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article[/url]
>> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>>
>> The Daily Mail
>> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>>
>> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>>[/color]
>
> It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
> word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits swear
> at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
> several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
> allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
> sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
>> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
>> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
>> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
>> lesson.
>>
>> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>>
>> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>>
>> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
>> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>>[/color]
>
> Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
> disposal ...
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>>
>> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
>> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
>> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>> score," he wrote in the letter
>>
>> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
>> of the lesson."
>>
>> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>>
>> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
>> level," said the father of one pupil.
>>
>> Should have do's and don'ts
>>
>> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
>> 'do and don't'.
>>
>> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
>> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>>
>> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
>> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>>
>> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>> Wonderland reasoning'.
>>
>> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>> improve something by discouraging it."
>>[/color]
>
> You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
>
> PS
> I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's knuckles,
> but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
> across.
>
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> 'Praise postcards'
>>
>> The 1,130-pupil school, which was criticised as 'not effective' by
>> Ofsted inspectors last November, also plans to send 'praise postcards'
>> to the parents of children who do not swear and who turn up on time for
>> lessons.
>>
>> Headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the
>> policy. "The reality is that the f-word is part of these young adults'
>> everyday language," he said.
>>[/color]
>
> Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. The
> headmaster should be looking for a new job. Maybe he should be making
> rulers.
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> "As a temporary policy we are giving them a bit of leeway, but want
>> them to think about the way they talk and how they might do better."
>>[/color]
>
> Smack the shit out of the little bastards, they'll do better.
>
>
>
>[/color]

I think the headmaster should get 6 cuts with the cane. . . .

Charles of Kankakee

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>>
>> The Daily Mail
>> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>>
>> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>>[/color]
>
> It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
> word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits swear
> at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
> several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
> allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
> sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
>> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
>> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
>> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
>> lesson.
>>
>> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>>
>> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>>
>> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
>> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>>[/color]
>
> Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
> disposal ...
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>>
>> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
>> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
>> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>> score," he wrote in the letter
>>
>> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
>> of the lesson."
>>
>> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>>
>> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
>> level," said the father of one pupil.
>>
>> Should have do's and don'ts
>>
>> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
>> 'do and don't'.
>>
>> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
>> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>>
>> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
>> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>>
>> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>> Wonderland reasoning'.
>>
>> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>> improve something by discouraging it."
>>[/color]
>
> You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
>
> PS
> I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's knuckles,
> but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
> across.
>[/color]

When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of their
habits.

Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually shattered
on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they were
really pissed.

Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles. If
spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the less
painful plastic ruler punishment.

Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your knuckles
or lift you off your feet...


--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

[color=blue]
>
> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of their
> habits.
>
> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
> shattered on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the
> nuns carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
> were really pissed.
>
> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
> If spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the less
> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>
> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
> knuckles or lift you off your feet...
>
>
> --
> Ray O
> correct the return address punctuation to reply
>
>[/color]

That's what I'm saying. There is more to education than the 3Rs, readin',
'ritin', and 'rithmatic.

Part of an education is seeing how much punishment is coming before it gets
there, or at least anticipating that there can or should be punishment on
the way. Sometimes the education is learning how to fly under the wire, but
the real education comes when the wires trip you up, and the spittle drips
down the nuns' chin. (That sound dirty if you think of Bill Clinton saying
it.)

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> >> [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article[/url]
> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
> >>
> >> The Daily Mail
> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
> >>
> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
> >>[/color]
> >
> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits swear
> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
> >
> >
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
> >> lesson.
> >>
> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
> >>
> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
> >>
> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
> > disposal ...
> >
> >
> >
> >[color=darkred]
> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
> >>
> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
> >> score," he wrote in the letter
> >>
> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
> >> of the lesson."
> >>
> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
> >>
> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
> >>
> >> Should have do's and don'ts
> >>
> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
> >> 'do and don't'.
> >>
> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
> >>
> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
> >>
> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
> >>
> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
> >> improve something by discouraging it."
> >>[/color]
> >
> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
> >
> > PS
> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's knuckles,
> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
> > across.
> >[/color]
>
> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of their
> habits.
>
> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually shattered
> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they were
> really pissed.
>
> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles. If
> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the less
> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>
> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your knuckles
> or lift you off your feet...[/color]


ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!

I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
shit out of them.

Pick on someone your own size or you're a coward.

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> > >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
> > >>
> > >> The Daily Mail
> > >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
> > >>
> > >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
> > >>
> > >
> > > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
> > > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits swear
> > > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
> > > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
> > > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
> > > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long as
> > >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
> > >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If a
> > >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
> > >> lesson.
> > >>
> > >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
> > >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
> > >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
> > >>
> > >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
> > >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
> > >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
> > >>
> > >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
> > >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
> > > disposal ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
> > >>
> > >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
> > >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
> > >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
> > >> score," he wrote in the letter
> > >>
> > >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the end
> > >> of the lesson."
> > >>
> > >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
> > >>
> > >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
> > >> level," said the father of one pupil.
> > >>
> > >> Should have do's and don'ts
> > >>
> > >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
> > >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of
> > >> 'do and don't'.
> > >>
> > >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
> > >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
> > >>
> > >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
> > >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
> > >>
> > >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
> > >> Wonderland reasoning'.
> > >>
> > >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
> > >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
> > >> improve something by discouraging it."
> > >>
> > >
> > > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
> > >
> > > PS
> > > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's knuckles,
> > > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
> > > across.
> > >[/color]
> >
> > When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
> > offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of their
> > habits.
> >
> > Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually shattered
> > on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
> > carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they were
> > really pissed.
> >
> > Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
> > not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles. If
> > spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
> > sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the less
> > painful plastic ruler punishment.
> >
> > Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
> > ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your knuckles
> > or lift you off your feet...[/color]
>
>
> ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
>
> I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
> shit out of them.[/color]

let me amend that... I'd kick the shit out of what was left after my
wife got finished kicking the shit out of them... she'd beat me to it.

J Strickland wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
> > offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of their
> > habits.
> >
> > Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
> > shattered on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the
> > nuns carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
> > were really pissed.
> >
> > Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
> > not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
> > If spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
> > sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the less
> > painful plastic ruler punishment.
> >
> > Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
> > ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
> > knuckles or lift you off your feet...
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ray O
> > correct the return address punctuation to reply
> >
> >[/color]
>
> That's what I'm saying. There is more to education than the 3Rs, readin',
> 'ritin', and 'rithmatic.
>
> Part of an education is seeing how much punishment is coming before it gets
> there, or at least anticipating that there can or should be punishment on
> the way.[/color]

It is a well-documented fact that corporal punishment only serves to
violate a child's precious trust of adult authority figures, which
leads to a plethora of adjustment problems in many cases. In other
cases, the child supresses the terrible experience (imagine someone
2,3,or 4 times your size beating you) and then go on to practice the
same with their children.

Not that I'm saying Strychnine or Ray O beat their kids, if they have
kids; I sure hope they don't.

Or maybe they need a good spanking? We should find a linebacker to
whip their asses perhaps?

Learning Richard, 8/30/2005,
<1125443323.888197.143740@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,7:08:43 PM,
wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick
> > the shit out of them.[/color]
>
> let me amend that... I'd kick the shit out of what was left after my
> wife got finished kicking the shit out of them... she'd beat me to it.[/color]

Is that the same wife you knocked up and was forced to marry because
she wouldn't have an abortion like your other girls? At least she has
more sense of right and wrong than you do. She'd be ahead of you
protecting her child.

--
"They call it golf because all of the other four-letter words were
taken." -- Raymond Floyd

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125443690.864003.125060@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> J Strickland wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> > When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden
>> > ruler
>> > offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
>> > their
>> > habits.
>> >
>> > Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
>> > shattered on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although
>> > the
>> > nuns carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless
>> > they
>> > were really pissed.
>> >
>> > Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and
>> > did
>> > not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
>> > If spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
>> > sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
>> > less
>> > painful plastic ruler punishment.
>> >
>> > Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
>> > ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
>> > knuckles or lift you off your feet...
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ray O
>> > correct the return address punctuation to reply
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>> That's what I'm saying. There is more to education than the 3Rs, readin',
>> 'ritin', and 'rithmatic.
>>
>> Part of an education is seeing how much punishment is coming before it
>> gets
>> there, or at least anticipating that there can or should be punishment on
>> the way.[/color]
>
> It is a well-documented fact that corporal punishment only serves to
> violate a child's precious trust of adult authority figures, which
> leads to a plethora of adjustment problems in many cases. In other
> cases, the child supresses the terrible experience (imagine someone
> 2,3,or 4 times your size beating you) and then go on to practice the
> same with their children.
>[/color]

First, my respect for authority was formed when Mrs. Brubaker - 1st Grade -
broke a ruler across my young knuckles after politely asking me to shape up.
I failed to shape up, and she promptly broke a ruler on my knuckles with out
asking again that I shape up. I never again failed to shape up upon request
because I knew she wouldnot hesitiate to break a ruler over my knuckles. The
other kids learned the lesson by osmosis - they learned because I learned.


[color=blue]
> Not that I'm saying Strychnine or Ray O beat their kids, if they have
> kids; I sure hope they don't.
>[/color]

I have never had to spank my children. I'm convinced God is playing some
grotesque trick on me, but I don't know the punch line yet.

I, on the other hand was spanked with amazing regularity. I thank God I was
not spanked every time I deserved to be spanked, but I can say that every
time I was spanked, it was well deserved.

[color=blue]
> Or maybe they need a good spanking? We should find a linebacker to
> whip their asses perhaps?
>[/color]

Thanks, I can whip my kids into shape on my own. The fact they haven't
required being whipped into shape means nothing. They know that if they need
it, they'll get it, so they take care to not need it.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125442912.996509.202100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:IuSdnXg1E5fDRoneRVn-sg@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:xn0e6l0ix3ecun4002@news.readfreenews.net...
>> >> [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article[/url]
>> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>> >>
>> >> The Daily Mail
>> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>> >>
>> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>> >>
>> >
>> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
>> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits
>> > swear
>> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
>> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
>> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
>> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long
>> >> as
>> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
>> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If
>> >> a
>> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
>> >> lesson.
>> >>
>> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>> >>
>> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>> >>
>> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
>> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
>> > disposal ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>> >>
>> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
>> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
>> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>> >> score," he wrote in the letter
>> >>
>> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the
>> >> end
>> >> of the lesson."
>> >>
>> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>> >>
>> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
>> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
>> >>
>> >> Should have do's and don'ts
>> >>
>> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles
>> >> of
>> >> 'do and don't'.
>> >>
>> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
>> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>> >>
>> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
>> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>> >>
>> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
>> >>
>> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>> >> improve something by discouraging it."
>> >>
>> >
>> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
>> >
>> > PS
>> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's
>> > knuckles,
>> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
>> > across.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
>> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
>> their
>> habits.
>>
>> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
>> shattered
>> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
>> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
>> were
>> really pissed.
>>
>> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
>> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
>> If
>> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
>> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
>> less
>> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>>
>> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
>> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
>> knuckles
>> or lift you off your feet...[/color]
>
>
> ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
>
> I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
> shit out of them.
>[/color]

That's the difference in a liberal houshold and a conservative one.

If I came home with bruises on my knuckles because the teacher broke a ruler
on them, my Dad would spank me again for fucking off in school enough to get
in trouble.

J Strickland wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1125442912.996509.202100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:IuSdnXg1E5fDRoneRVn-sg@ez2.net...
> >> >
> >> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:xn0e6l0ix3ecun4002@news.readfreenews.net...
> >> >> [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article[/url]
> >> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
> >> >>
> >> >> The Daily Mail
> >> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
> >> >>
> >> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the F
> >> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits
> >> > swear
> >> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
> >> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should be
> >> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles before
> >> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as long
> >> >> as
> >> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally of
> >> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board. If
> >> >> a
> >> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of the
> >> >> lesson.
> >> >>
> >> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
> >> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
> >> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
> >> >>
> >> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
> >> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
> >> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
> >> >>
> >> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15 and
> >> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the teacher's
> >> > disposal ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
> >> >>
> >> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not
> >> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these
> >> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
> >> >> score," he wrote in the letter
> >> >>
> >> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the
> >> >> end
> >> >> of the lesson."
> >> >>
> >> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
> >> >>
> >> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their own
> >> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
> >> >>
> >> >> Should have do's and don'ts
> >> >>
> >> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
> >> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear principles
> >> >> of
> >> >> 'do and don't'.
> >> >>
> >> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please the
> >> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five goes,
> >> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
> >> >>
> >> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
> >> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
> >> >>
> >> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
> >> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
> >> >> improve something by discouraging it."
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's knuckles.
> >> >
> >> > PS
> >> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's
> >> > knuckles,
> >> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message comes
> >> > across.
> >> >
> >>
> >> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden ruler
> >> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
> >> their
> >> habits.
> >>
> >> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
> >> shattered
> >> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
> >> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
> >> were
> >> really pissed.
> >>
> >> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and did
> >> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the knuckles.
> >> If
> >> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
> >> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
> >> less
> >> painful plastic ruler punishment.
> >>
> >> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made the
> >> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
> >> knuckles
> >> or lift you off your feet...[/color]
> >
> >
> > ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
> >
> > I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
> > shit out of them.
> >[/color]
>
> That's the difference in a liberal houshold and a conservative one.
>
> If I came home with bruises on my knuckles because the teacher broke a ruler
> on them, my Dad would spank me again for fucking off in school enough to get
> in trouble.[/color]

is that why you're such an angry little pussy? I hope you don't abuse
your children the way your father abused you.

Welcome to the new age of Enlightenment, the 21st century. We know a
lot more than we did when you and I were children. We can empirically
prove things that were conjecture just 10 years ago. Such as my above
assertion.

I don't think its the difference btw liberal and conservative
Strychnine... its the difference between someone who is willing to beat
children and someone who isn't. Or, the difference between someone who
learns and someone who doesn't.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Learning Richard, 8/30/2005,
> <1125443323.888197.143740@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,7:08:43 PM,
> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick
> > > the shit out of them.[/color]
> >
> > let me amend that... I'd kick the shit out of what was left after my
> > wife got finished kicking the shit out of them... she'd beat me to it.[/color]
>
> Is that the same wife you knocked up and was forced to marry because
> she wouldn't have an abortion like your other girls? At least she has
> more sense of right and wrong than you do. She'd be ahead of you
> protecting her child.[/color]

blah blah blah mr. Inventory taker.

I bet you lie in meetings too.

Just shut up, racist.

--
Robert E. Lee has more desirable qualities than your idols --
badgolferman

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125446454.212132.321170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> J Strickland wrote:[color=green]
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1125442912.996509.202100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Ray O wrote:
>> >> "J Strickland" <spam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:IuSdnXg1E5fDRoneRVn-sg@ez2.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:xn0e6l0ix3ecun4002@news.readfreenews.net...
>> >> >> [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article[/url]
>> >> >> _id=360685&in_page_id=1770
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Daily Mail
>> >> >> 09:58am 29th August 2005
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can use the f-word in class (but only five times)
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It's a lot easier to enforce the rule that a student may not use the
>> >> > F
>> >> > word not only in class but anywhere on campus. When the little shits
>> >> > swear
>> >> > at each other it's bad enough and they should be given detention for
>> >> > several hours, but when they swear at a teacher the teacher should
>> >> > be
>> >> > allowed to break a ruler across the offender's little knuckles
>> >> > before
>> >> > sending him or her to the Principle's Office to be suspended.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> A secondary school is to allow pupils to swear at teachers - as
>> >> >> long
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> they don't do so more than five times in a lesson. A running tally
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> how many times the f-word has been used will be kept on the board.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> class goes over the limit, they will be 'spoken' to at the end of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> lesson.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The astonishing policy, which the school says will improve the
>> >> >> behaviour of pupils, was condemned by parents' groups and MPs
>> >> >> yesterday. They warned it would backfire.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Parents were advised of the plan, which comes into effect when term
>> >> >> starts next week, in a letter from the Weavers School in
>> >> >> Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at 15
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> 16-year-olds in two classes which are considered troublesome.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Those two classes should have an abundance of rulers at the
>> >> > teacher's
>> >> > disposal ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> 'Tolerate but not condone'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and
>> >> >> these
>> >> >> will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running
>> >> >> score," he wrote in the letter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Over this number the class will be spoken to by the teacher at the
>> >> >> end
>> >> >> of the lesson."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Parents called the rule 'wholly irresponsible and ludicrous'.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "This appears to be a misguided attempt to speak to kids on their
>> >> >> own
>> >> >> level," said the father of one pupil.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Should have do's and don'ts
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "In
>> >> >> these sort of situations teachers should be setting clear
>> >> >> principles
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> 'do and don't'.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "They should not be compromising in an apparent attempt to please
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> pupils. This will send out completely the wrong message.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Youngsters will play up to this and ensure they use their five
>> >> >> goes,
>> >> >> demeaning the authority of the teacher."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tory MP Ann Widdecombe said the policy was based on 'Alice in
>> >> >> Wonderland reasoning'.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "What next?" she asked. "Do we allow people to speed five times or
>> >> >> burgle five times? You don't improve something by allowing it, you
>> >> >> improve something by discouraging it."
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > You inprove things by breaking rulers over the little thug's
>> >> > knuckles.
>> >> >
>> >> > PS
>> >> > I think it's nearly impossible to break a ruler over the thug's
>> >> > knuckles,
>> >> > but even if the ruler doesn't break, I'm pretty sure the message
>> >> > comes
>> >> > across.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> When I was growing up, there were plastic ruler offenses and wooden
>> >> ruler
>> >> offenses. The nuns kept them in secret compartments in the folds of
>> >> their
>> >> habits.
>> >>
>> >> Minor offenses merited the plastic ruler, which stung but usually
>> >> shattered
>> >> on one's knuckles, limiting the number of strikes. Although the nuns
>> >> carried reloads, they didn't often pull out their reloads unless they
>> >> were
>> >> really pissed.
>> >>
>> >> Moderate offenses merited the wooden ruler, which hurt a lot more and
>> >> did
>> >> not usually shatter, thereby allowing multiple strikes on the
>> >> knuckles.
>> >> If
>> >> spittle was coming out of the nun's mouth as she was pronouncing the
>> >> sentence, one was guaranteed a wooden ruler punishment instead of the
>> >> less
>> >> painful plastic ruler punishment.
>> >>
>> >> Got to high school, the paddles with the holes drilled in them made
>> >> the
>> >> ruler look (and feel) like nothing. The ruler didn't warm up your
>> >> knuckles
>> >> or lift you off your feet...
>> >
>> >
>> > ahhh violence against children -- how effective!!
>> >
>> > I just WISH some bastard would try to do that to my kid... I'd kick the
>> > shit out of them.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> That's the difference in a liberal houshold and a conservative one.
>>
>> If I came home with bruises on my knuckles because the teacher broke a
>> ruler
>> on them, my Dad would spank me again for fucking off in school enough to
>> get
>> in trouble.[/color]
>
> is that why you're such an angry little pussy? I hope you don't abuse
> your children the way your father abused you.
>
> Welcome to the new age of Enlightenment, the 21st century. We know a
> lot more than we did when you and I were children. We can empirically
> prove things that were conjecture just 10 years ago. Such as my above
> assertion.
>
> I don't think its the difference btw liberal and conservative
> Strychnine... its the difference between someone who is willing to beat
> children and someone who isn't. Or, the difference between someone who
> learns and someone who doesn't.
>[/color]


We obviously don't know any more because we are graduating people from high
school that can't even spell their own fucking name or read the diploma that
was just handed to them.

Our prisons are buldging at the seams because the little shits do not
respect authority and end up getting arrested for shit that they should have
had a ruler broken across their knuckles for. You really don't get it, do
you? Or, they get girls pregnant because they think it is just fine to get
their rocks off without regard for the consequences. They have never seen a
consequence in their entire lives because liberal assholes like you have
removed all of the consequences.