OT 9TH CIRCUIT: WORDS "UNDER GOD" IN U.S. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOUND TO BE "COERCIVE REQUIREMENT TO AFFIRM GOD"

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton said the words
"under God" violate the right of school children to be "free from a
coercive requirement to affirm God." According to the Associated Press,
Karlton said he was bound by precedent of the Ninth Circuit Court of
Appeals, which ruled in favor of Newdow in 2002.

Conservatives were quick to condemn the ruling.

"Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
[/cite:cnn]

Learning Richard wrote:[color=blue]
> In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton said the words
> "under God" violate the right of school children to be "free from a
> coercive requirement to affirm God." According to the Associated Press,
> Karlton said he was bound by precedent of the Ninth Circuit Court of
> Appeals, which ruled in favor of Newdow in 2002.
>
> Conservatives were quick to condemn the ruling.
>
> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
> [/cite:cnn][/color]

oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Learning Richard wrote:[color=green]
>> In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton said the words
>> "under God" violate the right of school children to be "free from a
>> coercive requirement to affirm God." According to the Associated Press,
>> Karlton said he was bound by precedent of the Ninth Circuit Court of
>> Appeals, which ruled in favor of Newdow in 2002.
>>
>> Conservatives were quick to condemn the ruling.
>>
>> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
>> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
>> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
>> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
>> [/cite:cnn][/color]
>
> oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
> not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
> bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
>[/color]

Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that was
one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.

You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist Liberation
Union. And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . . Damn,
Richard, how do you manage to do it?

Charles of Kankakee

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Learning Richard wrote:[/color][/color]

<edit />
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
> >> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
> >> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
> >> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
> >> [/cite:cnn][/color]
> >[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
> > not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
> > bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
> >[/color][/color]

Kanker Sore replied thusly:
[color=blue]
>
> Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that was
> one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.[/color]

Do you read my posts? Or, are you psychotic? Does your mind
involuntarily exclude information that does not jive with your altered
perception of reality? They make dopamine for this.
[color=blue]
>
> You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist Liberation
> Union.[/color]

You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
Union".
[color=blue]
> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .[/color]

what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?
[color=blue]
> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?[/color]

do what?
[color=blue]
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

Oh yeah -- the Cold War is over. Keep up Kanker Sore.

Oh... are you a Christian? Lets clear the air on that.

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Learning Richard wrote:[/color][/color]

<edit />
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
> >> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
> >> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
> >> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
> >> [/cite:cnn][/color]
> >[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
> > not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
> > bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
> >[/color][/color]

Kanker Sore replied thusly:
[color=blue]
>
> Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that was
> one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.[/color]

Do you read my posts? Or, are you psychotic? Does your mind
involuntarily exclude information that does not jive with your altered
perception of reality? They make dopamine for this.
[color=blue]
>
> You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist Liberation
> Union.[/color]

You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
Union".
[color=blue]
> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .[/color]

what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?
[color=blue]
> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?[/color]

do what?
[color=blue]
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

Oh yeah -- the Cold War is over. Keep up Kanker Sore.

Oh... are you a Christian? Lets clear the air on that.

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126755854.416945.173640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=green]
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Learning Richard wrote:[/color][/color]
>
> <edit />
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
>> >> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
>> >> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
>> >> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
>> >> [/cite:cnn]
>> >[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
>> > not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
>> > bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
>> >[/color][/color]
>
> Kanker Sore replied thusly:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that
>> was
>> one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.[/color]
>
> Do you read my posts? Or, are you psychotic? Does your mind
> involuntarily exclude information that does not jive with your altered
> perception of reality? They make dopamine for this.[/color]

Yeah, you need a helluva large dose. I'm sick of listening to you f*cking
liberals pulling the '1984' trick of historical revisionism.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist Liberation
>> Union.[/color]
>
> You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
> Union".[/color]

Not around me it's not. They should be given the ultimate punishment for
treason. They haven't protected my civil liberties, as a matter of fact
they seem to be trying to take them away. They want to make it illegal for
me to practice my religion just about anywhere. They want to close
churches. They want to force acceptance of homosexuality in places it
shouldn't be. They can all go to Hell for all I care. If I were in front
of one of their representitives, I would first SPIT on him, then click my
thumb off my teeth at him.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .[/color]
>
> what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?[/color]

You're in Virginia and you're such a dumb cracker you don't know what a
redneck peckerwood is? Just how close are you to the alternative reality
that is Da City?[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?[/color]
>
> do what?[/color]

Be a card-carrying member of the ACLU and a redneck peckerwood at the same
time. . . . Next thing you're going to tell me is you're also a member of
one of them there 'hunting clubs'. . . .[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]

And I already answered your question about Christianity. About as near as I
get is Disgruntled Baptist. God doesn't like me, so I don't talk to Him
either. But I know where I'm going afterwards, and I deserve it. . . . .

Charles of Kankakee

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126755953.650355.289300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>[/color]

You're either stuttering or double-posting. Since I won't get an honest
answer out of you the first time, I won't answer you the second time,
either.

Charles of Kankakee

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126755854.416945.173640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Learning Richard wrote:[/color]
> >
> > <edit />
> >[color=darkred]
> >> >> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is yet
> >> >> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers believed
> >> >> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
> >> >> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
> >> >> [/cite:cnn]
> >> >[/color]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> > oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God" were
> >> > not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm.... another
> >> > bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
> >> >[/color]
> >
> > Kanker Sore replied thusly:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that
> >> was
> >> one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.[/color]
> >
> > Do you read my posts? Or, are you psychotic? Does your mind
> > involuntarily exclude information that does not jive with your altered
> > perception of reality? They make dopamine for this.[/color]
>
> Yeah, you need a helluva large dose. I'm sick of listening to you f*cking
> liberals pulling the '1984' trick of historical revisionism.[/color]

revisionism? So now you're saying that they DIDN'T add those words in
1954?
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist Liberation
> >> Union.[/color]
> >
> > You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
> > Union".[/color]
>
> Not around me it's not. They should be given the ultimate punishment for
> treason. They haven't protected my civil liberties, as a matter of fact
> they seem to be trying to take them away. They want to make it illegal for
> me to practice my religion just about anywhere.[/color]

Your religion? What is your religion?
[color=blue]
> They want to close
> churches.[/color]

Where?
[color=blue]
> They want to force acceptance of homosexuality in places it
> shouldn't be.[/color]

such as.... where?
[color=blue]
> They can all go to Hell for all I care. If I were in front
> of one of their representitives, I would first SPIT on him, then click my
> thumb off my teeth at him.[/color]

Ahhh. So you're a black Italian?
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .[/color]
> >
> > what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?[/color]
>
> You're in Virginia and you're such a dumb cracker[/color]

I'm in Maryland. Have been for 3 years.
[color=blue]
> you don't know what a redneck peckerwood is?[/color]

I know what a redneck is, but peckerwood is obviously a regional
colloquialism.
[color=blue]
> Just how close are you to the alternative reality
> that is Da City?[/color]

Da City?
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?[/color]
> >
> > do what?[/color]
>
> Be a card-carrying member of the ACLU[/color]

which I'm not...
[color=blue]
> and a redneck peckerwood at the same
> time. . . .[/color]

don't judge a book by its cover. I don't have any cars up on blocks in
my yard.
[color=blue]
> Next thing you're going to tell me is you're also a member of
> one of them there 'hunting clubs'. . . .[/color]

hunting clubs?
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >>[/color][/color]
>
> And I already answered your question about Christianity. About as near as I
> get is Disgruntled Baptist.[/color]

So what _is_ your religion?
[color=blue]
> God doesn't like me,[/color]

but He Loves you
[color=blue]
> so I don't talk to Him either.[/color]

even when you don't want to, you do. How about this: "one nation under
Allah". Or, "one nation under Yeshua". (?)
[color=blue]
> But I know where I'm going afterwards, and I deserve it. . . . .[/color]

You're fun!
[color=blue]
>
> Charles of Kankakee[/color]

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126757411.386026.15270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=green]
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1126755854.416945.173640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Charles @ Kankakee wrote:
>> >> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1126754967.286522.184580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Learning Richard wrote:
>> >
>> > <edit />
>> >
>> >> >> "Today's ruling by a federal judge who sits in the 9th Circuit is
>> >> >> yet
>> >> >> another assault on American principles. The Founding Fathers
>> >> >> believed
>> >> >> that our Creator gave us certain inalienable rights," said House
>> >> >> Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.).
>> >> >> [/cite:cnn]
>> >> >
>> >
>> >> > oh yeah -- someone should tell Hastert, that the words "Under God"
>> >> > were
>> >> > not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954. Hmmmm....
>> >> > another
>> >> > bright bulb in the Republican arsenal, he is!
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Kanker Sore replied thusly:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Under God was added in 1954 at the height of the cold war because that
>> >> was
>> >> one thing WE had that you athiestic Communist meatheads didn't have.
>> >
>> > Do you read my posts? Or, are you psychotic? Does your mind
>> > involuntarily exclude information that does not jive with your altered
>> > perception of reality? They make dopamine for this.[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, you need a helluva large dose. I'm sick of listening to you
>> f*cking
>> liberals pulling the '1984' trick of historical revisionism.[/color]
>
> revisionism? So now you're saying that they DIDN'T add those words in
> 1954?
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You must be a card carrying member of the American Communist
>> >> Liberation
>> >> Union.
>> >
>> > You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
>> > Union".[/color]
>>
>> Not around me it's not. They should be given the ultimate punishment for
>> treason. They haven't protected my civil liberties, as a matter of
>> fact
>> they seem to be trying to take them away. They want to make it illegal
>> for
>> me to practice my religion just about anywhere.[/color]
>
> Your religion? What is your religion?[/color]

Any religion that even mentions Christ. Mohammed and Bhudda are OK, but
don't dare mention God . . .[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> They want to close
>> churches.[/color]
>
> Where?
>[color=green]
>> They want to force acceptance of homosexuality in places it
>> shouldn't be.[/color]
>
> such as.... where?[/color]

The Boy Scouts, for instance. They've been after the Boy Scouts for years
to allow homosexual leaders. Where do you go from "mentally awake and
morally straight" to get to homosexual?[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> They can all go to Hell for all I care. If I were in front
>> of one of their representitives, I would first SPIT on him, then click my
>> thumb off my teeth at him.[/color]
>
> Ahhh. So you're a black Italian?[/color]

Just lived in the Italian neighborhood in Chicago long enough to pick up a
few good curses.[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .
>> >
>> > what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?[/color]
>>
>> You're in Virginia and you're such a dumb cracker[/color]
>
> I'm in Maryland. Have been for 3 years.
>[color=green]
>> you don't know what a redneck peckerwood is?[/color]
>
> I know what a redneck is, but peckerwood is obviously a regional
> colloquialism.
>[/color]
From Arkansas, apparently it's used only in the further western parts of the
south.[color=blue][color=green]
>> Just how close are you to the alternative reality
>> that is Da City?[/color]
>
> Da City?
>[/color]
Washington, DC.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?
>> >
>> > do what?[/color]
>>
>> Be a card-carrying member of the ACLU[/color]
>
> which I'm not...
>[/color]
You sure carry water for those people . . .[color=blue][color=green]
>> and a redneck peckerwood at the same
>> time. . . .[/color]
>
> don't judge a book by its cover. I don't have any cars up on blocks in
> my yard.
>[color=green]
>> Next thing you're going to tell me is you're also a member of
>> one of them there 'hunting clubs'. . . .[/color]
>
> hunting clubs?
>[/color]
In Arkansas, if you belonged to certain 'hunting clubs', everyone knew you
were a member of a 'certain secret society'. I knew a black guy once who
actually wanted to be a member of that 'certain secret society' better known
as David Duke's old group.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> >>[/color]
>>
>> And I already answered your question about Christianity. About as near
>> as I
>> get is Disgruntled Baptist.[/color]
>
> So what _is_ your religion?
>[color=green]
>> God doesn't like me,[/color]
>
> but He Loves you[/color]

If He loved me, he wouldn't have put me thorugh the past 13 years the way He
has. . . . You have no idea the path I've had to walk in the past 13 years.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> so I don't talk to Him either.[/color]
>
> even when you don't want to, you do. How about this: "one nation under
> Allah". Or, "one nation under Yeshua". (?)
>[color=green]
>> But I know where I'm going afterwards, and I deserve it. . . . .[/color]
>
> You're fun![/color]

You're Chock Full O'Nuts.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> Charles of Kankakee[/color]
>[/color]

Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=blue]
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126757411.386026.15270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Charles @ Kankakee wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1126755854.416945.173640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >
> >> > You are referring to the ACLU? That's the "American Civil Liberties
> >> > Union".
> >>
> >> Not around me it's not. They should be given the ultimate punishment for
> >> treason. They haven't protected my civil liberties, as a matter of
> >> fact
> >> they seem to be trying to take them away. They want to make it illegal
> >> for
> >> me to practice my religion just about anywhere.[/color]
> >
> > Your religion? What is your religion?[/color]
>
> Any religion that even mentions Christ. Mohammed and Bhudda are OK, but
> don't dare mention God . . .[/color]

Well... I think the whole argument of supressing "UNDER GOD" is
completely frivolous and ridiculous. Sure maybe it is "coercive".
Frankly, I don't care. Does that mean folks will also be too offended
to carry American dollar bills, since they say "In God We Trust"? If
so, they can send their dollar bills to me, I'm pretty thick-skinned.

[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> They want to close
> >> churches.[/color]
> >
> > Where?
> >[color=darkred]
> >> They want to force acceptance of homosexuality in places it
> >> shouldn't be.[/color]
> >
> > such as.... where?[/color]
>
> The Boy Scouts, for instance. They've been after the Boy Scouts for years
> to allow homosexual leaders. Where do you go from "mentally awake and
> morally straight" to get to homosexual?[/color]

I'm not so sure about the Boy Scouts.
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> They can all go to Hell for all I care. If I were in front
> >> of one of their representitives, I would first SPIT on him, then click my
> >> thumb off my teeth at him.[/color]
> >
> > Ahhh. So you're a black Italian?[/color]
>
> Just lived in the Italian neighborhood in Chicago long enough to pick up a
> few good curses.[/color]

OK mr enigma... stop goofin. You black?

[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> >
> >> >> And a redneck peckerwood at the same time . . . .
> >> >
> >> > what exactly does that mean? redneck peckerwood?
> >>
> >> You're in Virginia and you're such a dumb cracker[/color]
> >
> > I'm in Maryland. Have been for 3 years.
> >[color=darkred]
> >> you don't know what a redneck peckerwood is?[/color]
> >
> > I know what a redneck is, but peckerwood is obviously a regional
> > colloquialism.
> >[/color]
> From Arkansas, apparently it's used only in the further western parts of the
> south.[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Just how close are you to the alternative reality
> >> that is Da City?[/color]
> >
> > Da City?
> >[/color]
> Washington, DC.[/color]

I'm about 40 miles north. Baltimore. I work in DC. Which is one of
many reasons I love my little Corolla. I swear it gets damn near 40
mpg.
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >
> >> >> Damn, Richard, how do you manage to do it?
> >> >
> >> > do what?
> >>
> >> Be a card-carrying member of the ACLU[/color]
> >
> > which I'm not...
> >[/color]
> You sure carry water for those people . . .[/color]

I'm not going to dismiss the ACLU in toto because of any one decision
they've made. The ACLU has done something to piss EVERYONE off.

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> and a redneck peckerwood at the same
> >> time. . . .[/color]
> >
> > don't judge a book by its cover. I don't have any cars up on blocks in
> > my yard.
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Next thing you're going to tell me is you're also a member of
> >> one of them there 'hunting clubs'. . . .[/color]
> >
> > hunting clubs?
> >[/color]
> In Arkansas, if you belonged to certain 'hunting clubs', everyone knew you
> were a member of a 'certain secret society'. I knew a black guy once who
> actually wanted to be a member of that 'certain secret society' better known
> as David Duke's old group.[/color]

I get it. That's ridiculous. If I were racist, I'd probably be dead,
what with the neighborhoods I grew up in.

And, David Duke is a Republican. Oh, and about Louisiana and Mr. Duke:

[cite:[url]http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/duke.asp][/url]
Coming Out (Again)

Even though Duke's ability to win office seemed to have waned, he
still found himself able to create political turmoil. For the second
time in his career, he became embroiled in a scandal concerning the
sale of a mailing list - this time to Louisiana Governor Mike Foster.


Foster was found by the state Board of Ethics to have failed to report
a $103,000 payment to Duke during the 1995 governor's race, and again
in 1997 when he paid $52,000 for the right to continue to use the list.


Foster said that he tried to keep the purchase secret, because "it
ain't real cool to put out there that you're buying something from
David Duke."
[/cite]

Mike Foster was Governor of Louisiana from 1996 to 2004. A true
Republican.

[color=blue]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >> And I already answered your question about Christianity. About as near
> >> as I
> >> get is Disgruntled Baptist.[/color]
> >
> > So what _is_ your religion?
> >[color=darkred]
> >> God doesn't like me,[/color]
> >
> > but He Loves you[/color]
>
> If He loved me, he wouldn't have put me thorugh the past 13 years the way He
> has. . . . You have no idea the path I've had to walk in the past 13 years.[/color]


I certainly won't be dismissive of your path. All I know is, didn't
you recently have major heart surgery? You're still here... Well
that's a good thing. Imagine if you were born say, 50 years ago or
something? My mom always said, "the lord works in mysterious ways".
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[color=darkred]
> >> so I don't talk to Him either.[/color]
> >
> > even when you don't want to, you do. How about this: "one nation under
> > Allah". Or, "one nation under Yeshua". (?)
> >[color=darkred]
> >> But I know where I'm going afterwards, and I deserve it. . . . .[/color]
> >
> > You're fun![/color]
>
> You're Chock Full O'Nuts.[/color]

I prefer Eight O'clock -- grind it every morning.

Have a cup.

OK mr enigma... stop goofin. You black?
=====================

Careful Charles, he's going to treat you different if you're black.
Sounds a bit racist to me.

Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> OK mr enigma... stop goofin. You black?
> =====================
>
> Careful Charles, he's going to treat you different if you're black.
> Sounds a bit racist to me.[/color]
[color=blue]
>From the way you quoted me, it appears that you asked the question.[/color]
IMHO, you should learn how to quote and then quote in context.

HTH.

There nothing H about your O, Richard, and we all understand who said
what.

snip
[color=blue][color=green]
>> but He Loves you[/color]
>
> If He loved me, he wouldn't have put me thorugh the past 13 years the way
> He has. . . . You have no idea the path I've had to walk in the past 13
> years.[/color]

I submit the following verses as an encouragement and without comment.

James 1: 2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of
many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops
perseverance. 4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature
and complete, not lacking anything. 5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should
ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be
given to him. 6But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he
who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That
man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;...

Hebrew 12: 7Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For
what son is not disciplined by his father? 8If you are not disciplined (and
everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not
true sons. 9Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and
we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of
our spirits and live! 10Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as
they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in
his holiness. 11No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later
on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who
have been trained by it.

Romains 8: 28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those
who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God
foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

Bassplayer12 wrote:[color=blue]
> snip
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> but He Loves you[/color]
> >
> > If He loved me, he wouldn't have put me thorugh the past 13 years the way
> > He has. . . . You have no idea the path I've had to walk in the past 13
> > years.[/color]
>
> I submit the following verses as an encouragement and without comment.
>
> James 1: 2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of
> many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops
> perseverance. 4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature
> and complete, not lacking anything. 5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should
> ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be
> given to him. 6But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he
> who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That
> man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;...
>
> Hebrew 12: 7Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For
> what son is not disciplined by his father? 8If you are not disciplined (and
> everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not
> true sons. 9Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and
> we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of
> our spirits and live! 10Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as
> they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in
> his holiness. 11No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later
> on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who
> have been trained by it.
>
> Romains 8: 28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those
> who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God
> foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son,
> that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.[/color]

excellent bassplayer. In other words, keep your chin up fools!

An EXCELLENT book: Man's Search For Meaning by Victor Frankl