Brake job done but now rear drumd make a clicking sound???

With help from Tegger and others I Replaced the MC and rear pads and
drums. After bleeding the hell out of the system things llok good
Except! for a clicking sound that comes from both rear brakes.

I had reused the old springs and clips and I plan on going out after
typing this and replace the old parts with new hardware kit. (springs
and clips)

Aside from this, any suggestions on whats causing the clicking sound
from the rear when the brakes are applied?

1998 Toyota corolla, NO ABS

Thanks

Sr

steve <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in
news:utlvj194qkoo7ntt6l48b9qdlqblrk7n54@4ax.com:
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> With help from Tegger and others I Replaced the MC and rear pads and
> drums. After bleeding the hell out of the system things llok good
> Except! for a clicking sound that comes from both rear brakes.
>
> I had reused the old springs and clips and I plan on going out after
> typing this and replace the old parts with new hardware kit. (springs
> and clips)
>
> Aside from this, any suggestions on whats causing the clicking sound
> from the rear when the brakes are applied?
>
> 1998 Toyota corolla, NO ABS
>[/color]


If the clicking is related to car speed, then you've got something touching
the drum as it spins. You've got no choice but to pull the drum back off
and inspect it.

Do you maybe have the shoes adjusted too tightly? Is there a rust-ridge
around the perimeter of the drum?

Unless the hardware got damaged in some way, it's unlikely replacement of
it will, by itself, eliminate the noise.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
[url]www.tegger.com/hondafaq/[/url]

A clicking sound from drum brakes can be a drum that is cracked
either -through- the wearing surface or cracked between the lug bolt holes.
Some of the cheaply made drums having a cast iron wearing surface but a
stamped steel support plate (the area where the lug nut studs pass through)
will click. Nothing to do with these but replace.


"steve" <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in message
news:jm20k1pibgio6qapppud5lu99ar2b9ggjk@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>I should have said it only clicks when applying the brakes.
> drums and pads were replaced. I inspected both wheels and everything
> looks OK.
>
> The pins holding the shoes were pretty rusty so I'm going to replace
> the hardware while I have the wheels off again...Then I'll test drive
> again. From the sound, I realy thought something had broken like one
> of thosepins??? but Like I said, everything looks normal. I'll watch
> for having the pads expanded to much..
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
> On 2 Oct 2005 13:51:01 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
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>>steve <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in
>>news:utlvj194qkoo7ntt6l48b9qdlqblrk7n54@4ax.com:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> With help from Tegger and others I Replaced the MC and rear pads and
>>> drums. After bleeding the hell out of the system things llok good
>>> Except! for a clicking sound that comes from both rear brakes.
>>>
>>> I had reused the old springs and clips and I plan on going out after
>>> typing this and replace the old parts with new hardware kit. (springs
>>> and clips)
>>>
>>> Aside from this, any suggestions on whats causing the clicking sound
>>> from the rear when the brakes are applied?
>>>
>>> 1998 Toyota corolla, NO ABS
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>If the clicking is related to car speed, then you've got something
>>touching
>>the drum as it spins. You've got no choice but to pull the drum back off
>>and inspect it.
>>
>>Do you maybe have the shoes adjusted too tightly? Is there a rust-ridge
>>around the perimeter of the drum?
>>
>>Unless the hardware got damaged in some way, it's unlikely replacement of
>>it will, by itself, eliminate the noise.[/color]
>[/color]

I just fought a car with a similar issue; except that we has new hardware
put in- Have the drum checked; get it cut if necessary. Notice the sound
"clicks"? That shouldn't happen with a true drum.


I've seen new drums and discs come from the stores out of tolerance. (or
perhaps in tolerance but causing an issue)





"steve" <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in message
news:jm20k1pibgio6qapppud5lu99ar2b9ggjk@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>I should have said it only clicks when applying the brakes.
> drums and pads were replaced. I inspected both wheels and everything
> looks OK.
>
> The pins holding the shoes were pretty rusty so I'm going to replace
> the hardware while I have the wheels off again...Then I'll test drive
> again. From the sound, I realy thought something had broken like one
> of thosepins??? but Like I said, everything looks normal. I'll watch
> for having the pads expanded to much..
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>
> On 2 Oct 2005 13:51:01 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>steve <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in
>>news:utlvj194qkoo7ntt6l48b9qdlqblrk7n54@4ax.com:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> With help from Tegger and others I Replaced the MC and rear pads and
>>> drums. After bleeding the hell out of the system things llok good
>>> Except! for a clicking sound that comes from both rear brakes.
>>>
>>> I had reused the old springs and clips and I plan on going out after
>>> typing this and replace the old parts with new hardware kit. (springs
>>> and clips)
>>>
>>> Aside from this, any suggestions on whats causing the clicking sound
>>> from the rear when the brakes are applied?
>>>
>>> 1998 Toyota corolla, NO ABS
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>If the clicking is related to car speed, then you've got something
>>touching
>>the drum as it spins. You've got no choice but to pull the drum back off
>>and inspect it.
>>
>>Do you maybe have the shoes adjusted too tightly? Is there a rust-ridge
>>around the perimeter of the drum?
>>
>>Unless the hardware got damaged in some way, it's unlikely replacement of
>>it will, by itself, eliminate the noise.[/color]
>[/color]

Well I put in the new hardware and checked the operation of the hand
brake. The auto adjuster worked with each pull of the hand
brake..Everything looked good. I used a file to champher the edges of
the pads, not likely but what the hell???... I reassembled and took
for a test drive. Still could hear a click, from both sides? as I
stepped on the brakes. I drove around testing and trying to anilize.
Then the sound went away. I went to a deserted street and did multiple
stops going forward and backward and it sounded fine.

Brakes feel much better now. Could the shoes have settled in so the
dont click now???
I'm hoping so...

Sr

"steve" <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in message
news:lqp0k1pd6t4temkudgm1o39172l16fjd4f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Well I put in the new hardware and checked the operation of the hand
> brake. The auto adjuster worked with each pull of the hand
> brake..Everything looked good. I used a file to champher the edges of
> the pads, not likely but what the hell???... I reassembled and took
> for a test drive. Still could hear a click, from both sides? as I
> stepped on the brakes. I drove around testing and trying to anilize.
> Then the sound went away. I went to a deserted street and did multiple
> stops going forward and backward and it sounded fine.
>
> Brakes feel much better now. Could the shoes have settled in so the
> dont click now???
> I'm hoping so...
>
> Sr[/color]

The brake linings on drum brakes are referred to as "shoes." The linings on
disc brakes are referred to as "pads."

Next time, try using genuine Toyota brake parts. You're a lot less likely
to run into troubles. If the noise comes back, try putting the back of the
car up on jack stands, spin the wheels, and have someone gently apply the
brakes to see if you can duplicate the noise and pinpoint it more.
--
Ray O
correct the return address punctuation to reply

steve <junkspam@therivets.net> wrote in
news:lqp0k1pd6t4temkudgm1o39172l16fjd4f@4ax.com:
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> Well I put in the new hardware and checked the operation of the hand
> brake. The auto adjuster worked with each pull of the hand
> brake..Everything looked good. I used a file to champher the edges of
> the pads, not likely but what the hell???... I reassembled and took
> for a test drive. Still could hear a click, from both sides? as I
> stepped on the brakes. I drove around testing and trying to anilize.
> Then the sound went away. I went to a deserted street and did multiple
> stops going forward and backward and it sounded fine.
>
> Brakes feel much better now. Could the shoes have settled in so the
> dont click now???
> I'm hoping so...
>[/color]


Like Philip says, check carefully for cracks in the drum. I never thought
of that.

If you jack up the rear of the car, spin the wheels by hand, and have a
helper gently apply the brakes, does that help locate the sound better?


--
TeGGeR®

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:12:34 -0700, steve <junkspam@therivets.net>
wrote:
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>Well I put in the new hardware and checked the operation of the hand
>brake. The auto adjuster worked with each pull of the hand
>brake..Everything looked good. I used a file to champher the edges of
>the pads, not likely but what the hell???... I reassembled and took
>for a test drive. Still could hear a click, from both sides? as I
>stepped on the brakes. I drove around testing and trying to anilize.
>Then the sound went away. I went to a deserted street and did multiple
>stops going forward and backward and it sounded fine.
>
>Brakes feel much better now. Could the shoes have settled in so the
>dont click now???
>I'm hoping so...
>[/color]


You didn't say if this was 'one' click. or 'multiple' clicks.

My 1997 Celica brake system has always given me 'one' click the first
time I use the footbrake after I initially move off - and then no
more.

This especially if I backed-up prior to parking, which I normally do.

The handbrake mechanism clearly has to un-latch somehow if the car was
moving backwards before braking.

The brakes work perfectly - still on all original pads at 81K miles.