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Old 06-08-2005, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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transmission drain plug

I have a 2003 Camry LE automatic. The car is approaching 30K miles.
And I am thinking that it will need the 30K service soon. First of all
as many posters had pointed out, I have alos noticed that the dealer
has
added many extra things for the 30K mile service that're not listed in
my passport manual for maintenace to be performed at 30K miles. And
they charge me $424.95 for their service (I live in Washington metro
area
in Maryland). Based on the passbook, I figure I could easily do the
following myself:
- LOF
- Replace air filter & cabin filter
- rotate tires
- replace spark plugs
And that's pretty much all I have to do. And I do not expect to spend
much money (I will get the plugs and filters from the dealer). But
the dealer's service includes, among other things, transmission
drain/refill.
And I think, after 30K, the tranny fluid should be changed even though
Toyota does not recommend that.

The other day, I jacked up the car and took a look at the transmission
pan.
If I remember correctly, I saw a transmission plug whose center is a
square
recess into the plug. I must admit I am very uninformed about tools.
I
have never seen such a plug. What kind of tool do I use to loosen the
plug,
and where could I find such a tool?

Thanks for any ponter
Ted

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Old 06-08-2005, 11:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

On 8 Jun 2005 19:33:15 -0700, [email]tedliu525@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>I have a 2003 Camry LE automatic. The car is approaching 30K miles.
>And I am thinking that it will need the 30K service soon. First of all
>as many posters had pointed out, I have alos noticed that the dealer
>has
>added many extra things for the 30K mile service that're not listed in
>my passport manual for maintenace to be performed at 30K miles. And
>they charge me $424.95 for their service (I live in Washington metro
>area
>in Maryland). Based on the passbook, I figure I could easily do the
>following myself:
>- LOF
>- Replace air filter & cabin filter
>- rotate tires
>- replace spark plugs
>And that's pretty much all I have to do. And I do not expect to spend
>much money (I will get the plugs and filters from the dealer). But
>the dealer's service includes, among other things, transmission
>drain/refill.
>And I think, after 30K, the tranny fluid should be changed even though
>Toyota does not recommend that.
>
>The other day, I jacked up the car and took a look at the transmission
>pan.
>If I remember correctly, I saw a transmission plug whose center is a
>square
>recess into the plug. I must admit I am very uninformed about tools.
>I
>have never seen such a plug. What kind of tool do I use to loosen the
>plug,
>and where could I find such a tool?
>
>Thanks for any ponter
>Ted[/color]

Use a ratchet wrench (It is a square drive).

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Old 06-09-2005, 01:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

On 8 Jun 2005 19:33:15 -0700, [email]tedliu525@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>I have a 2003 Camry LE automatic. The car is approaching 30K miles.
>And I am thinking that it will need the 30K service soon. First of all
>as many posters had pointed out, I have alos noticed that the dealer
>has
>added many extra things for the 30K mile service that're not listed in
>my passport manual for maintenace to be performed at 30K miles. And
>they charge me $424.95 for their service (I live in Washington metro
>area
>in Maryland). Based on the passbook, I figure I could easily do the
>following myself:
>- LOF
>- Replace air filter & cabin filter
>- rotate tires
>- replace spark plugs
>And that's pretty much all I have to do. And I do not expect to spend
>much money (I will get the plugs and filters from the dealer). But
>the dealer's service includes, among other things, transmission
>drain/refill.
>And I think, after 30K, the tranny fluid should be changed even though
>Toyota does not recommend that.
>
>The other day, I jacked up the car and took a look at the transmission
>pan.
>If I remember correctly, I saw a transmission plug whose center is a
>square
>recess into the plug. I must admit I am very uninformed about tools.
>I
>have never seen such a plug. What kind of tool do I use to loosen the
>plug,
>and where could I find such a tool?
>
>Thanks for any ponter
>Ted[/color]
Don't know for sure what the 2003 has , but my 96 LE has a
10mm allen head plug.....which does look kinda aquare :-).
You can get a 10mm allen socket at most any auto store.

Ken Day
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

Its a 10mm hex drive. You can pick one up almost anywhere. Also don't forget
to drain the differential too. There is an identical plug (oriented
vertically) about 12 inches behind the transmission drain pan.
And double check on those sparkplugs, too. I'm fairly certain that the
service interval is beyond 30k miles. Don't want to replace then if you
don't have to!

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Old 06-09-2005, 05:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

Its a 10mm hex drive. You can pick one up almost anywhere. Also don't forget
to drain the differential too. There is an identical plug (oriented
vertically) about 12 inches behind the transmission drain pan.
And double check on those sparkplugs, too. I'm fairly certain that the
service interval is beyond 30k miles. Don't want to replace then if you
don't have to!

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Old 06-09-2005, 05:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

Its a 10mm hex drive. You can pick one up almost anywhere. Also don't forget
to drain the differential too. There is an identical plug (oriented
vertically) about 12 inches behind the transmission drain pan.
And double check on those sparkplugs, too. I'm fairly certain that the
service interval is beyond 30k miles. Don't want to replace then if you
don't have to!

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Old 06-09-2005, 07:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

Whats a LOF? These are not $2 sparkplugs and usually are good for
60,000 miles. You may be able to rotate the tires OK but they should be
rebalanced too. You cant do that.
The trans should be serviced but if you dont know your way around
tools...Also you forgot
the differential. Thats a mess to change fluid.
If you are going to do these things, at least get the Haynes manual.

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Old 06-09-2005, 08:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Rob wrote:[color=blue]
> Whats a LOF?[/color]

you're kidding? everyone who works on car should know LOF
stands for: Lube, Oil and Filter.


These are not $2 sparkplugs and usually are good for[color=blue]
> 60,000 miles.[/color]

Both the dealer's 30K service and my Camry passport manual
call for spark plug replacement at 30K. So I better follow.


You may be able to rotate the tires OK but they should be[color=blue]
> rebalanced too. You cant do that.[/color]

mmm....I did rotate mine once myself (w/o rebalancing them,
of course). But I think the dealer also offer tire rotation
service (no rebalancing) for about $20.00 ...
[color=blue]
> The trans should be serviced but if you dont know your way around
> tools...Also you forgot
> the differential. Thats a mess to change fluid.[/color]

I was told drain/refill tranny fluid is much important
than the differential fluid change at 30K. I think I could
wait until 60K to do the differential fluid. Again the
user service manual does not mention differential at 30K

[color=blue]
> If you are going to do these things, at least get the Haynes manual.[/color]

I did try. But I have yet to find any auto repair manual
(including Chilton, Haynes) that covers the year model of my
car (2003 Camry LE). I would appreciate very much if
anyone can tell me where I could get one for my car.

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Old 06-09-2005, 08:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

LOF must be lube, oil, filter - however there's no "lube" anymore with
sealed chassis fittings.
Double check for your engine, there may not be a separate drain for the
differential.
In my view, rotating the tires is sufficient (without rebalancing). Has
worked fine for me.
Be sure to use the factory specified transmission fluid and re check
the level after reaching full operating temperature (drive min. 10
miles). Some of the newer transaxles require a special type of fluid.
If you have the Iridium spark plugs, they should be good for 90,000
miles.
My suggestion: when removing oil or transmission drain plugs, always
use a new gasket, they're inexpensive insurance against leaks and help
to avoild the need to over tighten.

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Old 06-09-2005, 09:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

LOF must be lube, oil, filter - however there's no "lube" anymore with
sealed chassis fittings.
Double check for your engine, there may not be a separate drain for the
differential.
In my view, rotating the tires is sufficient (without rebalancing). Has
worked fine for me.
Be sure to use the factory specified transmission fluid and re check
the level after reaching full operating temperature (drive min. 10
miles). Some of the newer transaxles require a special type of fluid.
If you have the Iridium spark plugs, they should be good for 90,000
miles.
My suggestion: when removing oil or transmission drain plugs, always
use a new gasket, they're inexpensive insurance against leaks and help
to avoid the need to over tighten.

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Old 06-09-2005, 11:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

On 8 Jun 2005 19:33:15 -0700, [email]tedliu525@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>I have a 2003 Camry LE automatic. The car is approaching 30K miles.
>And I am thinking that it will need the 30K service soon. First of all
>as many posters had pointed out, I have alos noticed that the dealer
>has
>added many extra things for the 30K mile service that're not listed in
>my passport manual for maintenace to be performed at 30K miles. And
>they charge me $424.95 for their service (I live in Washington metro
>area
>in Maryland). Based on the passbook, I figure I could easily do the
>following myself:
>- LOF
>- Replace air filter & cabin filter
>- rotate tires
>- replace spark plugs[/color]


Do you have a V6 or 4 cylinder? The 4-cylinder plugs are very easy
.... as for the V6 plugs, I gave up on the back set of plugs--they were
quite challenging (at least for me).

If you are doing it yourself, I would also replace the brake fluid.
Your manual will probaby say it isn't due until 45K (or every 2 years
which you are close to).


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Old 06-09-2005, 12:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Curtis Newton wrote:[color=blue]
> On 8 Jun 2005 19:33:15 -0700, [email]tedliu525@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I have a 2003 Camry LE automatic. The car is approaching 30K miles.
> >And I am thinking that it will need the 30K service soon. First of all
> >as many posters had pointed out, I have alos noticed that the dealer
> >has
> >added many extra things for the 30K mile service that're not listed in
> >my passport manual for maintenace to be performed at 30K miles. And
> >they charge me $424.95 for their service (I live in Washington metro
> >area
> >in Maryland). Based on the passbook, I figure I could easily do the
> >following myself:
> >- LOF
> >- Replace air filter & cabin filter
> >- rotate tires
> >- replace spark plugs[/color]
>
>
> Do you have a V6 or 4 cylinder? The 4-cylinder plugs are very easy
> ... as for the V6 plugs, I gave up on the back set of plugs--they were
> quite challenging (at least for me).
>
> If you are doing it yourself, I would also replace the brake fluid.
> Your manual will probaby say it isn't due until 45K (or every 2 years
> which you are close to).[/color]

I have the 4 cylinder. And you are right. The plugs are very
accessible. Take off the plastic cover, and they are right in
front of you. So why pay someone $80.00 labor if you can
get it done in 10 minutes?
My Camry passport does not mention brake at 30K, but the dealer's
30K service does include "clean & adjust rear brakes".
So I am planning to simply pull the drums, spray some brake
cleaner, and check/adjust the spring tension....
Thanks for your comments
Ted

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Old 06-09-2005, 09:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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<tedliu525@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118322177.230272.69740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
>
> Rob wrote:[color=green]
>> Whats a LOF?[/color]
>
> you're kidding? everyone who works on car should know LOF
> stands for: Lube, Oil and Filter.
>
>
> These are not $2 sparkplugs and usually are good for[color=green]
>> 60,000 miles.[/color]
>
> Both the dealer's 30K service and my Camry passport manual
> call for spark plug replacement at 30K. So I better follow.[/color]

You had better reread your passport because mine says that the spark plugs
need to be replaced at 30,000 miles for the Echo, not the Camry.[color=blue]
>
>
> You may be able to rotate the tires OK but they should be[color=green]
>> rebalanced too. You cant do that.[/color]
>
> mmm....I did rotate mine once myself (w/o rebalancing them,
> of course). But I think the dealer also offer tire rotation
> service (no rebalancing) for about $20.00 ...
>[color=green]
>> The trans should be serviced but if you dont know your way around
>> tools...Also you forgot
>> the differential. Thats a mess to change fluid.[/color]
>
> I was told drain/refill tranny fluid is much important
> than the differential fluid change at 30K. I think I could
> wait until 60K to do the differential fluid. Again the
> user service manual does not mention differential at 30K
>
>[color=green]
>> If you are going to do these things, at least get the Haynes manual.[/color]
>
> I did try. But I have yet to find any auto repair manual
> (including Chilton, Haynes) that covers the year model of my
> car (2003 Camry LE). I would appreciate very much if
> anyone can tell me where I could get one for my car.
>[/color]


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Old 06-10-2005, 12:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: transmission drain plug

On 9 Jun 2005 06:02:57 -0700, [email]tedliu525@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
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>> Whats a LOF?[/color]
>
>you're kidding? everyone who works on car should know LOF
>stands for: Lube, Oil and Filter.[/color]

I never heard of it either. I've been working on cars going on 50
years and never heard the term LOF.
Grease job 'n' oil change , now I've heard that.
Maybe it's a local thing. :-)

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