Water In Oil?

I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
oil?
I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up. About four
months ago I changed the water pump and termostat. The old pump had
failed. Where could oil be leaking into the motor oil? Is there
anyone who has dealt with this lately? 22R veterans?

"Can't Decide" <kookforlife@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130603241.215360.243430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
> nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
> habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
> driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
> dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
> like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
> normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
> oil?
> I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
> all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up. About four
> months ago I changed the water pump and termostat. The old pump had
> failed. Where could oil be leaking into the motor oil? Is there
> anyone who has dealt with this lately? 22R veterans?
>[/color]


Oil leaking into the oil? Yes, that could happen, but my guess is you have
coolant leaking into the oil. ;-)

One of the signs of water in the oil is foaming of the oil. The oil also can
take on a cloudy appearance. There are a few routes the coolant can take to
get into the oil, the head gasket is one of them. Usually, when this
happens, the radiator will have air bubbles as the coolant flows past the
opening where the cap normally goes. If you CAREFULLY open the cap -- or
start the engine cold with the cap off and wait for the engine to warm up --
you can check to see if air bubbles are present. If so, then this suggests a
blown head gasket.

Can't Decide wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
> nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
> habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
> driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
> dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
> like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
> normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
> oil?
> I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
> all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up. About four
> months ago I changed the water pump and termostat. The old pump had
> failed. Where could oil be leaking into the motor oil? Is there
> anyone who has dealt with this lately? 22R veterans?
>[/color]
And, dump that oil. Do oil changes as frequently as necessary so
you don't see any signs of water until you get the repair made.

The detergents in motor oil tend to emulsify water. A small amount
of water makes the oil milky looking and foamy--this is too much
water for engine safety. If you see any increase in the oil level
or any free water when you drain the oil, that is way, way too much
water.


Ken

Can't Decide wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
> nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
> habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
> driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
> dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
> like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
> normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
> oil?
> I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
> all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up. About
> four months ago I changed the water pump and termostat. The old pump
> had failed. Where could oil be leaking into the motor oil? Is there
> anyone who has dealt with this lately? 22R veterans?[/color]

Usually coolant/water in the oil will cause the oil to discolor and the foam
will be right on top of the oil. Did you check the oil after engine was
really warmed up or still somewhat cold? I think the foam is normal, a
product of the moisture that is in the air of the oil pan and on the metal
surfaces inside the engine. It will usually dissipate once the engine is
really warmed up. Another thing that could cause this is too much oil in pan
and crankshaft is hitting it causing foam, or sometimes when you drive
really hard the oil can foam if there isn't enough baffling in the pan.
For now I would just keep an eye on it, just in case.
HTH, davidj92

Drain the oil. Water in the oil will be obvious, especially after it sets
for a while.


"Can't Decide" <kookforlife@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130603241.215360.243430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
> nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
> habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
> driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
> dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
> like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
> normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
> oil?
> I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
> all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up. About four
> months ago I changed the water pump and termostat. The old pump had
> failed. Where could oil be leaking into the motor oil? Is there
> anyone who has dealt with this lately? 22R veterans?
>[/color]

"Can't Decide" <kookforlife@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130603241.215360.243430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> I have a 1981 Toyota P/U with a 22r. The truck is totally stock,
> nothing other than what came with the truck from Japan. I am very
> habitaul about checking my vital fuilds. In the process of dayily
> driving I have noticed a light colored foam or froth on my oil
> dipstick, about four inches above the full line. It feels and smells
> like oil. The oil on the bottom part of the dipstick looks
> normal(clear, fresh smell). Could this foam be a little water in my
> oil?
> I have been losing coolant from hoses here and there. I have tried
> all most everything(execpt pay a pro) to seal this leak up.[/color]
----------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Perhaps it's time to "pay a pro". How much is your engine worth to you? Even
a small coolant leak into your oil will destroy your engine if you continue
to run it in that condition.

And contrary to what someone else here wrote, foamy oil is NOT normal, nor
is milky oil. And you cannot simply "burn it off" by warming up your engine.
If you have foamy/frothy oil, milky oil, or visible water droplets in your
oil, you have a SERIOUS PROBLEM that requires IMMEDIATE repair.

- Michael

It might be a blown head gasket, the chain could have damaged the
front timing cover, a bad intake manifold, if coolant goes to intake.
but all of them are fairly serious and need attention. Try pulling all
the plugs at looking at insulators, any of them different colors or
corroded. Especially greenish if green coolant used or reddish if red
coolant used.
I also second one of the other posters, open radiator cap and
warm up engine and see if it shoots out with alot of air, if it just
kinds of pours out it is normal as coolant expands, and especially when
thermostat opens.