first oil change for my new Tundra at 3000 miles!?

That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.

I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.

Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just drive
the hell out of it".

What do you all think?

-jeff

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>
> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>
> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
> drive
> the hell out of it".
>
> What do you all think?
>
> -jeff[/color]

Keep an eye on the oil level during the first 1000 miles as this is the time
when the engine is supposed to consume a bit of oil. I would change it by
1000 miles. Drive normal.

--

- Philip

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>
> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>
> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
> drive
> the hell out of it".
>
> What do you all think?
>
> -jeff
>[/color]

Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.

I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well, unless
you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.

"Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>>
>> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>>
>> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
>> drive
>> the hell out of it".
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> -jeff
>>[/color]
>
> Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
> normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.
>
> I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well, unless
> you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.[/color]

Rubbish.

A quick, brisk break-in won't hurt the engine ANYWHERE near as much as
running around on oil that is past due for changing.
--

- Philip

I changed mine after the first 1000. as far as breakin driving, I was told
by everyone I asked to drive it as I normally would.....not to baby it or
stay under 60
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43c4ff50$0$11844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...[color=green]
> >
> > "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
> >> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
> >>
> >> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
> >>
> >> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
> >> drive
> >> the hell out of it".
> >>
> >> What do you all think?
> >>
> >> -jeff
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
> > normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.
> >
> > I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well,[/color][/color]
unless[color=blue][color=green]
> > you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.[/color]
>
> Rubbish.
>
> A quick, brisk break-in won't hurt the engine ANYWHERE near as much as
> running around on oil that is past due for changing.
> --
>
> - Philip
>
>[/color]

An older ex-Toyota mechanic advised me to:
Keep the first 100 miles under 55, never starying at the same speed (rpm)_
for more than 5 miles.
From 100-500 - don;t exceed 70, same 'holding pattern' advoidance.
Change oil at 1000. It has some 'breakin additives you -want- to work.
after 1000, get it up to speed - a few bursts to 990 will help seat the
remaining parts - AFTER it's fully warmed up - 20 miles of running.

So far, it's seemed to be right. 4 years old, and getting above 22 mpg on
interstate or open road above 70. It's an auto full 6, DC with power toys.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:40:08 -0500, "Grip" <mbetts@suscom.net> found these
unused words floating about:
[color=blue]
>I changed mine after the first 1000. as far as breakin driving, I was told
>by everyone I asked to drive it as I normally would.....not to baby it or
>stay under 60
>"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:43c4ff50$0$11844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> > news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...
>> >> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>> >>
>> >> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
>> >> drive
>> >> the hell out of it".
>> >>
>> >> What do you all think?
>> >>
>> >> -jeff
>> >>
>> >
>> > Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
>> > normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.
>> >
>> > I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well,[/color][/color]
>unless[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.[/color]
>>
>> Rubbish.
>>
>> A quick, brisk break-in won't hurt the engine ANYWHERE near as much as
>> running around on oil that is past due for changing.
>> --
>>
>> - Philip
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

I'm not sure that I buy into the "drive the hell out of it" story, but I see
no reason to change the oil.





"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>
> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>
> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
> drive
> the hell out of it".
>
> What do you all think?
>
> -jeff
>[/color]

"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43c4ff50$0$11844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...[color=green]
>>
>> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>>>
>>> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>>>
>>> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
>>> drive
>>> the hell out of it".
>>>
>>> What do you all think?
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
>> normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.
>>
>> I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well,
>> unless you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.[/color]
>
> Rubbish.
>
> A quick, brisk break-in won't hurt the engine ANYWHERE near as much as
> running around on oil that is past due for changing.
> --[/color]

There you have it, stomp the pedal and forget about the oil.

My advice stands, drive like you have 72 more payments left, and change the
oil when the schedule calls for it.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:UZ9xf.7940$M%4.4349@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:43c4ff50$0$11844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:BFEA283C.18807%handywired@earthlink.net...
>>>> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>>>>
>>>> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
>>>> drive
>>>> the hell out of it".
>>>>
>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oil change at 3000 okay but from new dont drive over 60MPH and drive it
>>> normally. IE no stomping the throttle or laboring the motor.
>>>
>>> I wouldnt drive it hard till the 3000 service has been done. Well,
>>> unless you dont wish to keep the vehicle for more than a few years.[/color]
>>
>> Rubbish.
>>
>> A quick, brisk break-in won't hurt the engine ANYWHERE near as much as
>> running around on oil that is past due for changing.
>> --[/color]
>
> There you have it, stomp the pedal and forget about the oil.
>
> My advice stands, drive like you have 72 more payments left, and change
> the oil when the schedule calls for it.[/color]

Huh? How did you infer "stomp the pedal, forget about the oil" from my
previous post?

Good grief.

Jeff Olsen wrote:[color=blue]
> That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>
> I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>
> Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just drive
> the hell out of it".
>
> What do you all think?
>
> -jeff
>[/color]
The guy at the dealership, service writer or salesman, is trained in
sales, not mechanical things.

I favor one or two short-mileage oil changes, then change every 5000
miles. There might be some break in particles or manufacturing
debris in the engine that you want to remove. As far as I know,
only Honda has a special break in oil in their new engines.

All parts of the truck need to break in. Brakes, transmission,
differential, as well as the engine. I like light driving and
varies speeds and loads for the first 500 miles...no towing or heavy
loads in the bed, no street racing. An easy drive on a mountain
road is perfect.


Ken

"Ken Shelton" <shelton@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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>>[/color]
> The guy at the dealership, service writer or salesman, is trained in
> sales, not mechanical things.
>
> I favor one or two short-mileage oil changes, then change every 5000
> miles. There might be some break in particles or manufacturing debris in
> the engine that you want to remove. As far as I know, only Honda has a
> special break in oil in their new engines.
>
> All parts of the truck need to break in. Brakes, transmission,
> differential, as well as the engine. I like light driving and varies
> speeds and loads for the first 500 miles...no towing or heavy loads in the
> bed, no street racing. An easy drive on a mountain road is perfect.
>
>
> Ken[/color]

Agreed, Ken. One or two short mileage oil / filter changes (1000 and 3000
miles) and then every 5k after. The easy drive on a mountain road IS the
perfect break-in drive.
--

- Philip

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:42:13 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>
>I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>
>Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just drive
>the hell out of it".
>
>What do you all think?
>
>-jeff[/color]

I think waiting until the first 3000 miles for the first change is too
much. The initial oil change will contain lots of metal. I plan on
changing mine at 800-1000 miles, then every 3000 after that (the
maintenance guide recommends every 5000 miles). A new engine consumes
more oil, since its pistons, rings, and cylinder walls have not been
conditioned. My dealer recommended to "go easy" the initial 500 miles.

"Phisherman" <noone@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:42:13 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>That seems too long, but that's what they are telling me.
>>
>>I'd be more inclined to change it at 500 miles, then again at 3000.
>>
>>Also the dealer said not to worry about engine break-in, but to "just
>>drive
>>the hell out of it".
>>
>>What do you all think?
>>
>>-jeff[/color]
>
> I think waiting until the first 3000 miles for the first change is too
> much. The initial oil change will contain lots of metal.[/color]


I'm not sure I agree with that position. The factory has to support a
warranty for upwards of 100,000 miles, do you really think they will leave
stuff inside the motor that can do harm and increase the warranty claim
exposure they are facing? I think they would easily spend a few bucks -- and
pass the cost on to the consumer -- to be sure the motor is cleaned out.

Back when this concern came about, they did much of the machine work pretty
much by hand, and the steps needed to clean the metal flakes out were labor
intensive. But, today most of this work is done by robots, and spinning the
motor over to squirt solvent through it doesn't take much effort at all.

I see no problem with changing the oil early, but if there was any real
benefit, the factory would have the dealers call the vehicles in and do it
to avoid the warranty issues that can result if it isn't done.

I have to question any instruction of "drive the hell out of it." That
sounds of pure folly to me, but observing the normal oil change interval
seems reasonable to me.





I plan on[color=blue]
> changing mine at 800-1000 miles, then every 3000 after that (the
> maintenance guide recommends every 5000 miles). A new engine consumes
> more oil, since its pistons, rings, and cylinder walls have not been
> conditioned. My dealer recommended to "go easy" the initial 500 miles.[/color]