rad problem, temp spikes then drops

replaced thermostat on 92 22re, top up antifreeze in rad, the rad fills up
the overflow rez and spills out. the engine tempgauge gets alomost to the
red line as I first start driving then drops really quickly. Anyone have any
ideas, airlock?

Replace the thermostat again. Is it in backwards?


"neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Idyzf.7621$924.159980@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> replaced thermostat on 92 22re, top up antifreeze in rad, the rad fills up
> the overflow rez and spills out. the engine tempgauge gets alomost to the
> red line as I first start driving then drops really quickly. Anyone have
> any
> ideas, airlock?
>
>[/color]

does your top radiator hose get hot??? sounds like a potential head
gasket...


"Chips" <Chips1@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message
news:RoFzf.8450$_S7.4225@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Replace the thermostat again. Is it in backwards?
>
>
> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:Idyzf.7621$924.159980@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
> > replaced thermostat on 92 22re, top up antifreeze in rad, the rad fills[/color][/color]
up[color=blue][color=green]
> > the overflow rez and spills out. the engine tempgauge gets alomost to[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > red line as I first start driving then drops really quickly. Anyone have
> > any
> > ideas, airlock?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head gasket
what should I be looking for. replaced rad cap as well.
"EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:15Szf.903$ur7.428@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> does your top radiator hose get hot??? sounds like a potential head
> gasket...
>
>
> "Chips" <Chips1@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message
> news:RoFzf.8450$_S7.4225@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=green]
> > Replace the thermostat again. Is it in backwards?
> >
> >
> > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Idyzf.7621$924.159980@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=darkred]
> > > replaced thermostat on 92 22re, top up antifreeze in rad, the rad[/color][/color][/color]
fills[color=blue]
> up[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the overflow rez and spills out. the engine tempgauge gets alomost to[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > red line as I first start driving then drops really quickly. Anyone[/color][/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > any
> > > ideas, airlock?
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

"neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head gasket
> what should I be looking for.[/color]


Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did you have
those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?

Just because there is no coolant in the oil/oil in the coolant... don't mean
it's not the head gasket... when I blew up my head gasket on my 94' 22re, it
was doing exactely that, for a long while before it actually went... the
temp would get really hot, and then cool off, then get really hot again...
it would fluctuate... Mine did this for months before the head gasket
finally went..
Ian

"Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...[color=blue]
>
> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
> > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head[/color][/color]
gasket[color=blue][color=green]
> > what should I be looking for.[/color]
>
>
> Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
> radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did you[/color]
have[color=blue]
> those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
>
>[/color]

Yes same thing, however I have noticed when temp spikes the interior temp
control is at max,when I notice the engine temp increasing I push interior
temp to cool or off (no AC) then the temperature decreases for engine.
"Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...[color=blue]
>
> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
> > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head[/color][/color]
gasket[color=blue][color=green]
> > what should I be looking for.[/color]
>
>
> Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
> radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did you[/color]
have[color=blue]
> those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
>
>[/color]

so you wouldsuggest I get that head gasket changed? any idea ofcost?
"EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ne9Af.3405$NS6.1552@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Just because there is no coolant in the oil/oil in the coolant... don't[/color]
mean[color=blue]
> it's not the head gasket... when I blew up my head gasket on my 94' 22re,[/color]
it[color=blue]
> was doing exactely that, for a long while before it actually went... the
> temp would get really hot, and then cool off, then get really hot again...
> it would fluctuate... Mine did this for months before the head gasket
> finally went..
> Ian
>
> "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...[color=green]
> >
> > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=darkred]
> > > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head[/color][/color]
> gasket[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > what should I be looking for.[/color]
> >
> >
> > Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
> > radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did you[/color]
> have[color=green]
> > those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

hahaha.... now that's fucking odd.... when you turn the heater on the
inside of the truck on... It "should" decrease your engine temp since the
heater core is run from your antifreeze, and when you turn your heater on,
your in fact decreasing the temp of your coolant by exchanging the heat from
the coolant into the air that's going to heat your cab.... An old time
"farm" trick is to turn the heater on high if the vehicle is overheating ,
and it will help cool it down.. I think it sounds like a headgasket.... I
don't know how much a repair garage would charge to do it, since nobody but
me has ever touched either of my toys... But to do it yourself would prob
cost you in the neighbor hood of 50 bucks for all the gaskets that should or
have to be replaced at the same time... It's really not a diff job.. Just
make sure your engine is at TDC (top dead center) when you pull the timing
chain, and don't turn the crank until it's back together...
Ian


"neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:bZCAf.21347$924.325738@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> Yes same thing, however I have noticed when temp spikes the interior temp
> control is at max,when I notice the engine temp increasing I push interior
> temp to cool or off (no AC) then the temperature decreases for engine.
> "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...[color=green]
> >
> > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=darkred]
> > > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head[/color][/color]
> gasket[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > what should I be looking for.[/color]
> >
> >
> > Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
> > radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did you[/color]
> have[color=green]
> > those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

thanks for all the info everyone, this is an odd one. I'll keep posting when
I know more info.
"EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kWQAf.1244$ur7.481@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> hahaha.... now that's fucking odd.... when you turn the heater on the
> inside of the truck on... It "should" decrease your engine temp since the
> heater core is run from your antifreeze, and when you turn your heater on,
> your in fact decreasing the temp of your coolant by exchanging the heat[/color]
from[color=blue]
> the coolant into the air that's going to heat your cab.... An old time
> "farm" trick is to turn the heater on high if the vehicle is overheating ,
> and it will help cool it down.. I think it sounds like a headgasket....[/color]
I[color=blue]
> don't know how much a repair garage would charge to do it, since nobody[/color]
but[color=blue]
> me has ever touched either of my toys... But to do it yourself would prob
> cost you in the neighbor hood of 50 bucks for all the gaskets that should[/color]
or[color=blue]
> have to be replaced at the same time... It's really not a diff job.. Just
> make sure your engine is at TDC (top dead center) when you pull the timing
> chain, and don't turn the crank until it's back together...
> Ian
>
>
> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bZCAf.21347$924.325738@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
> > Yes same thing, however I have noticed when temp spikes the interior[/color][/color]
temp[color=blue][color=green]
> > control is at max,when I notice the engine temp increasing I push[/color][/color]
interior[color=blue][color=green]
> > temp to cool or off (no AC) then the temperature decreases for engine.
> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> > news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head[/color]
> > gasket[color=darkred]
> > > > what should I be looking for.
> > >
> > >
> > > Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
> > > radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did[/color][/color][/color]
you[color=blue][color=green]
> > have[color=darkred]
> > > those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

not so odd, take the thermostat and drill a 3/16" hole in the disc.
this has been covered on Roger`s website and in this newsgroup

"neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:KsSAf.313$ft2.25077@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> thanks for all the info everyone, this is an odd one. I'll keep posting
> when
> I know more info.
> "EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kWQAf.1244$ur7.481@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...[color=green]
>> hahaha.... now that's fucking odd.... when you turn the heater on the
>> inside of the truck on... It "should" decrease your engine temp since the
>> heater core is run from your antifreeze, and when you turn your heater
>> on,
>> your in fact decreasing the temp of your coolant by exchanging the heat[/color]
> from[color=green]
>> the coolant into the air that's going to heat your cab.... An old time
>> "farm" trick is to turn the heater on high if the vehicle is overheating
>> ,
>> and it will help cool it down.. I think it sounds like a headgasket....[/color]
> I[color=green]
>> don't know how much a repair garage would charge to do it, since nobody[/color]
> but[color=green]
>> me has ever touched either of my toys... But to do it yourself would prob
>> cost you in the neighbor hood of 50 bucks for all the gaskets that should[/color]
> or[color=green]
>> have to be replaced at the same time... It's really not a diff job..
>> Just
>> make sure your engine is at TDC (top dead center) when you pull the
>> timing
>> chain, and don't turn the crank until it's back together...
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bZCAf.21347$924.325738@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Yes same thing, however I have noticed when temp spikes the interior[/color][/color]
> temp[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > control is at max,when I notice the engine temp increasing I push[/color][/color]
> interior[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > temp to cool or off (no AC) then the temperature decreases for engine.
>> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...
>> > >
>> > > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > > news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> > > > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is head
>> > gasket
>> > > > what should I be looking for.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of the
>> > > radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did[/color][/color]
> you[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > have
>> > > those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

I believe there is a hole in the thermostat(failsafe) I'll check again,
thanx for the tip.
"PCK" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:XJidnZNxV6l4i0veRVn-sQ@look.ca...[color=blue]
> not so odd, take the thermostat and drill a 3/16" hole in the disc.
> this has been covered on Roger`s website and in this newsgroup
>
> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:KsSAf.313$ft2.25077@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
> > thanks for all the info everyone, this is an odd one. I'll keep posting
> > when
> > I know more info.
> > "EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:kWQAf.1244$ur7.481@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...[color=darkred]
> >> hahaha.... now that's fucking odd.... when you turn the heater on the
> >> inside of the truck on... It "should" decrease your engine temp since[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> heater core is run from your antifreeze, and when you turn your heater
> >> on,
> >> your in fact decreasing the temp of your coolant by exchanging the heat[/color]
> > from[color=darkred]
> >> the coolant into the air that's going to heat your cab.... An old time
> >> "farm" trick is to turn the heater on high if the vehicle is[/color][/color][/color]
overheating[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> ,
> >> and it will help cool it down.. I think it sounds like a[/color][/color][/color]
headgasket....[color=blue][color=green]
> > I[color=darkred]
> >> don't know how much a repair garage would charge to do it, since nobody[/color]
> > but[color=darkred]
> >> me has ever touched either of my toys... But to do it yourself would[/color][/color][/color]
prob[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> cost you in the neighbor hood of 50 bucks for all the gaskets that[/color][/color][/color]
should[color=blue][color=green]
> > or[color=darkred]
> >> have to be replaced at the same time... It's really not a diff job..
> >> Just
> >> make sure your engine is at TDC (top dead center) when you pull the
> >> timing
> >> chain, and don't turn the crank until it's back together...
> >> Ian
> >>
> >>
> >> "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:bZCAf.21347$924.325738@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> > Yes same thing, however I have noticed when temp spikes the interior[/color]
> > temp[color=darkred]
> >> > control is at max,when I notice the engine temp increasing I push[/color]
> > interior[color=darkred]
> >> > temp to cool or off (no AC) then the temperature decreases for[/color][/color][/color]
engine.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:ihZzf.1248$wk5.118@news02.roc.ny...
> >> > >
> >> > > "neophyte" <srfral@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > > news:0eVzf.20294$xk1.471397@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> > > > yes top hose gets hot but no symtoms of head gasket, if it is[/color][/color][/color]
head[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > gasket
> >> > > > what should I be looking for.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Symptoms of a blown head gasket would be coolant forced out of[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > > radiator into the resevoir and engine running hot/overheating. Did[/color]
> > you[color=darkred]
> >> > have
> >> > > those same symptoms before you replaced the thermostat ?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]