Thinking of a Tacoma

i am a DIE HARD general motors man thinking of converting to a toyota
man.
am thinking of a tacoma double cab 4x4 auto tranny.
i have for my last 3 trucks had full sixe extended cabs 2 chevys 1 gmc.

is there any thing that is a waste of money or no good to get on this
truck?
what kind of mileage are you all getting with the 4.0
any input to help me would be great.
thanks alot in advanced

in article [email]10700-43DC2F5F-836@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net[/email], Charles H. at
[email]red_z_man@hotmail.com[/email] wrote on 1/28/06 6:58 PM:
[color=blue]
> i am a DIE HARD general motors man thinking of converting to a toyota
> man.
> am thinking of a tacoma double cab 4x4 auto tranny.
> i have for my last 3 trucks had full sixe extended cabs 2 chevys 1 gmc.
>
> is there any thing that is a waste of money or no good to get on this
> truck?
> what kind of mileage are you all getting with the 4.0
> any input to help me would be great.
> thanks alot in advanced
>[/color]

Look at Tundra's, too. The gas mileage isn't much different. Taco's seem
to me to be aimed at young people, especially now with that bug-eye faceted
center console ("bling!"). Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?

What made you give up on GM?

-jeff

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
<handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?[/color]

I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!

Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.

My favorite landscape supplier charges $25 per _trip_, for one yard or
ten, or pallets of brick or river stone. If I didn't pay the $25, I'd
also have to break my ass unloading! Unloading and restacking 3 or 4
pallets of river stone (you can't dump it) is certainly worth $25 in
my book. <G>

Typical loads in mine are hand-made doors and windows, hardwood lumber
& sheet goods, large tools, large avgas and water jugs, wide cut
mowers, fertilizer bags, snowblowers, and my kayaks & bicycles.

A nice feature of the plastic bed is the ability to easily drill & add
tie downs pretty much anywhere you need them, with no chance of rust.
Since I regularly move a couple of bulky stationary tools, I added tie
downs just for them, which saves time every time I move them. The bed
also won't be affected by corrosives like battery acid, fertilizer,
pool chemicals, etc...

As far as the interior styling goes, I'm 40 and I like it, but there's
no accounting for style. <G>

So, when used like 99% of the pickups sold, the plastic bed is great!
The one percent of professional landscapers, ranchers, roofers, etc...
probably are better off with a steel bed. This is my fourth truck (in
order - '78 Chevy, '85 Toyota, '96 Nissan, '05 Toyota) , and I love
the plastic bed.

well i dont really use my truck as a truck everyday, i just love trucks.
reason i am giving up on GM is the looks and styles are not that good
looking any more.(i know i will be bashed for that)
i fall into the 40s age group too.
i just want something different and was wondering about the tacoma, i
agree tho about the bed of the truck.
to me, it dont look like it would hold up.
look at GM, a few yrs ago they made there beds same way BOTH inside and
out, well it didnt last long, they changed back to metal.

in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
[email]Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com[/email] wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>> plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>> nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?[/color]
>
> I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>
> Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
> bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
> of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
> pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.[/color]

My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of gravel
or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get a
spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at the
bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping that
shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.

You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big trees,
so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.

I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really planning
on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would work
for them. For me... no way.

-jeff

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
> [email]Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com[/email] wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>> plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>>> nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?[/color]
>>
>> I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>
>> Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>> bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>> of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>> pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.[/color]
>
> My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
> straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
> gravel
> or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get a
> spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at the
> bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
> gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
> that
> shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>
> You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big trees,
> so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
> have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
> wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>
> I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
> planning
> on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
> work
> for them. For me... no way.
>
> -jeff
>[/color]

If I haul music equipment or fishing/boating paraphernalia, do I have to get
it dirty first in order to be an official member of the truck club and get
the secret decoder ring?

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:17:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com>
found these unused words floating about:
[color=blue]
>
>"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
>> [email]Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com[/email] wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>>> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>>> plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>>>> nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?
>>>
>>> I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>>
>>> Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>>> bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>>> of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>>> pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.[/color]
>>
>> My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
>> straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
>> gravel
>> or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get a
>> spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at the
>> bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
>> gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
>> that
>> shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>>
>> You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big trees,
>> so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
>> have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
>> wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>>
>> I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
>> planning
>> on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
>> work
>> for them. For me... no way.
>>
>> -jeff
>>[/color]
>
>If I haul music equipment or fishing/boating paraphernalia, do I have to get
>it dirty first in order to be an official member of the truck club and get
>the secret decoder ring?
>[/color]
No, but if you're going to put the back axle in water, raise the
differential vent!

Doug Kanter wrote:[color=blue]
> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...
>[color=green]
>>in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
>>Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>>><handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>>>plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>>>>nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?
>>>
>>>I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>>
>>>Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>>>bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>>>of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>>>pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.[/color]
>>
>>My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
>>straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
>>gravel
>>or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get a
>>spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at the
>>bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
>>gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
>>that
>>shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>>
>>You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big trees,
>>so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
>>have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
>>wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>>
>>I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
>>planning
>>on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
>>work
>>for them. For me... no way.
>>
>>-jeff
>>[/color]
>
>
> If I haul music equipment or fishing/boating paraphernalia, do I have to get
> it dirty first in order to be an official member of the truck club and get
> the secret decoder ring?
>
>[/color]

No decoder ring but you will get a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee.

"coorslte" <coorslte@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:g48Ef.344$C52.182@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Doug Kanter wrote:[color=green]
>> "Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
>>>Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>>>><handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>>>>plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be
>>>>>a
>>>>>nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>>>
>>>>Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>>>>bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>>>>of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>>>>pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.
>>>
>>>My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
>>>straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
>>>gravel
>>>or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get
>>>a
>>>spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at
>>>the
>>>bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
>>>gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
>>>that
>>>shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>>>
>>>You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big
>>>trees,
>>>so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
>>>have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
>>>wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>>>
>>>I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
>>>planning
>>>on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
>>>work
>>>for them. For me... no way.
>>>
>>>-jeff
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> If I haul music equipment or fishing/boating paraphernalia, do I have to
>> get it dirty first in order to be an official member of the truck club
>> and get the secret decoder ring?[/color]
>
> No decoder ring but you will get a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee.[/color]

I want Rheingold. :)

Doug Kanter wrote:[color=blue]
> "coorslte" <coorslte@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:g48Ef.344$C52.182@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>[color=green]
>>Doug Kanter wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
>>>>Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>>>>><handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>>>>>plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?
>>>>>
>>>>>I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>>>>>bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>>>>>of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>>>>>pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.
>>>>
>>>>My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
>>>>straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
>>>>gravel
>>>>or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get
>>>>a
>>>>spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at
>>>>the
>>>>bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
>>>>gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
>>>>that
>>>>shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>>>>
>>>>You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big
>>>>trees,
>>>>so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
>>>>have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
>>>>wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>>>>
>>>>I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
>>>>planning
>>>>on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
>>>>work
>>>>for them. For me... no way.
>>>>
>>>>-jeff
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If I haul music equipment or fishing/boating paraphernalia, do I have to
>>>get it dirty first in order to be an official member of the truck club
>>>and get the secret decoder ring?[/color]
>>
>>No decoder ring but you will get a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee.[/color]
>
>
> I want Rheingold. :)
>
>[/color]
stretching the budget a little but sure.

ok
going down saturday to test drive one,
anything thing any of you can tell me to look for or listen for would be
great.
the one i will testing is a 06 4x4 double cab 4.0 liter auto.
thanks again

in article [email]9107-43E2B958-528@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net[/email], Charles H. at
[email]red_z_man@hotmail.com[/email] wrote on 2/2/06 6:00 PM:
[color=blue]
> ok
> going down saturday to test drive one,
> anything thing any of you can tell me to look for or listen for would be
> great.
> the one i will testing is a 06 4x4 double cab 4.0 liter auto.[/color]

So it's a new one? What do you mean, what to listen for? How about the
sound of that V6 happily motoring you into your future? :-)

It'll have a 3-year bumper to bumper warranty anyway... if it's a used one,
screw that, buy a new one if you are looking at an '06 (or an '05 or '04);
you won't save enough on a low-miles used one, IMHO, to make it worth it.
Spend a couple thousand more and get the peace of mind of knowing exactly
what has happened to that machine.

-jeff

Charles:

How did you make out?
I actually picked up an 06 Double Cab 4x4 on Saturday.
I got the long bed. Damn thing barely fits in my garage!
Its a pretty nice ride though. I got the TRD version (not my first
choice). Its a little stiffer than the standard pickup, but not too
bad. Can't figure out what the hell I would use the 115V outlet in the
bed for, but seems pretty cool!

Charlie


Charles H. wrote:[color=blue]
> ok
> going down saturday to test drive one,
> anything thing any of you can tell me to look for or listen for would be
> great.
> the one i will testing is a 06 4x4 double cab 4.0 liter auto.
> thanks again
>[/color]

well was raining to hard, so i told them i be back, didnt think i would
like to check out truck in pouring rain.
it is a 05 crew cab long bed 4x4.
it has the sr5 package 7 on it.
they did say they would beat any other dealer tho.
when i got home i had a e-mail from another dealer saying they give it
to me for 99 cents over invoice.
yes i am dealing on the internet sales side of both dealers.
as it stands now tho the one i am looking at is 28,8??.00 and there down
to 25k even.
i will still see if they will go lower, or i will go to the one that
said 99 cents over invoice.
i am in no hurry as my 04 gmc 4x4 only has 19k on it.
as far as fitting into garage i dont care, my wife has one side of
garage and the other i have a tools and work bench.
what kinda deal did you get?

"Jeff Olsen" <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:C0032C45.1979B%handywired@earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> in article [email]u8bpt1hi7f4u0954gn7b6200dildqj0ig1@4ax.com[/email], Bonehenge at
> [email]Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com[/email] wrote on 1/29/06 4:29 AM:
>[color=green]
>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:39:55 GMT, Jeff Olsen
>> <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Plus, if you intend to use it as a truck, that
>>> plastic bed in the Taco, with all the little doors and stuff, would be a
>>> nightmare. How do you haul a load a gravel in THAT?[/color]
>>
>> I wouldn't do that in any brand new truck!
>>
>> Sand, topsoil, stone, gravel, and mulch are ~ $25 to have any quantity
>> bulk delivered and dumped exactly where I need it. Large quantities
>> of building materials like lumber and roofing, larger than _any_
>> pickup can carry includes fast, free delivery in my area.[/color]
>
> My Tundra has 665 miles on it... so far all I've hauled is firewood and
> straw bales. I will admit that it's hard to haul that first load of
> gravel
> or whatever, but I bought it to use it. I'm hoping I can afford to get a
> spray-on bedliner before i start hauling loads of gravel! the guys at the
> bedliner place said it doesn't matter if i scratch it up since they are
> gonna spray over it anyway... but it's still hard to think of scraping
> that
> shovel across the new paint, I'll give you that.
>
> You can't really get big trucks into my driveway because of the big trees,
> so it's just as easy to just buy a yard here and there of gravel than to
> have a big pile 50 yards away out by the gate that I then have to either
> wheelbarrow in, or shovel into the truck then back out.
>
> I think you are correct; most people who buy Tacomas aren't really
> planning
> on hauling anything "dirty" in them. I guess those plastic beds would
> work
> for them. For me... no way.
>
> -jeff[/color]


I also bought my Tundra to actually use as a truck (41 miles right now). My
1990 Chevy Silverado has made as many as three dump runs a day full of
asphalt shingles from our remodel. This last fall, I left it at home most
days so the nail pounders could just throw the crap right in it.

I'm replying to ask what spray-on bedliner you are looking at? Rhino is
thick, but I've heard it chips. Line-X is thinner, and I suspect if it
scratches spray paint would make it new. Have you done any research?

- Curtis