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Old 01-29-2006, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen
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Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

Pretty soon it will be time for the first oil change in my new Tundra. I'm
inclined to use Mobil One; any reason not to, other than the added expense?
I spend 2 weeks a year elk hunting in an area that typically gets down to
-15 F at night, so if I understand it correctly the synthetic will help
protect the engine better at startup at very low temps. And isn't it a
little better than dino oil in general?

Thanks!

-jeff

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

We only use synthetic oil in our cars and trucks. In my opinion it is the
best choice. We always go the first 5000 on the oil that comes in the
engine , then change to Mobil 1 5w30. Then we change the oil every 5 or 6
thousand there after. We have never had a problem with an engine. These
trucks will last a long time on regular oil and even at 2 1/2 or three
times the price for Mobil 1 I will never use anything else.
Scott

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Old 01-30-2006, 04:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

In article <C0032987.19799%handywired@earthlink.net>,
Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Pretty soon it will be time for the first oil change in my new Tundra. I'm
> inclined to use Mobil One; any reason not to, other than the added expense?
> I spend 2 weeks a year elk hunting in an area that typically gets down to
> -15 F at night, so if I understand it correctly the synthetic will help
> protect the engine better at startup at very low temps. And isn't it a
> little better than dino oil in general?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -jeff[/color]

I'm in the same situation, about to pass on 3K miles on a 2005 Tundra.
I called out of curiosity about the dealer oil change and they use the
synthetic blend by default and will use 100% synthetic if you ask for it
(xtra charge of course).

I'm staying with the regular oil. I've been using Castrol GTX Brand oil
since I can remember and have never had an oil related problem on a
vehicle. While living in Germany I had a couple of European cars and
routinely drove them at high speeds on the Autobahn. Did it for years
with never a problem. Still have one of them and it's a '92. That's not
to say Castrol's any better or worse than another brand, but back in the
day their claim was it was specially formulated for smaller engines and
that's what I was driving and ended up sticking with it.

Most would probably agree that synthetic is a better choice especially
if going long times between changes, but I just can't see any big
advantage in my situation. Garaged cars, not extreme environments etc.
Old logic was synthetics could go longer between changes without
breakdown etc, but wisdom of late is they carry particulates around just
as easily as regular oil so should be changed just as frequently. When
considering this I have even less reason to use synthetic.

In the end it's likely whatever choice you feel most comfortable with.

Nate

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Old 01-30-2006, 10:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

in article [email]spudman27-32204A.14074830012006@news.newsguy.com[/email], N Williamson at
[email]spudman27@aol.com[/email] wrote on 1/30/06 2:07 PM:
[color=blue]
> In article <C0032987.19799%handywired@earthlink.net>,
> Jeff Olsen <handywired@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Pretty soon it will be time for the first oil change in my new Tundra. I'm
>> inclined to use Mobil One; any reason not to, other than the added expense?
>> I spend 2 weeks a year elk hunting in an area that typically gets down to
>> -15 F at night, so if I understand it correctly the synthetic will help
>> protect the engine better at startup at very low temps. And isn't it a
>> little better than dino oil in general?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -jeff[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Most would probably agree that synthetic is a better choice especially
> if going long times between changes, but I just can't see any big
> advantage in my situation. Garaged cars, not extreme environments etc.
> Old logic was synthetics could go longer between changes without
> breakdown etc, but wisdom of late is they carry particulates around just
> as easily as regular oil so should be changed just as frequently. When
> considering this I have even less reason to use synthetic.
>
> In the end it's likely whatever choice you feel most comfortable with.
>
> Nate[/color]

Maybe what I'll do is run dino oil in the summer and sythetic in the early
winter, when we head up to elk camp...

-jeff

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Old 01-31-2006, 04:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

N Williamson wrote:
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> Most would probably agree that synthetic is a better choice especially
> if going long times between changes, but I just can't see any big
> advantage in my situation. Garaged cars, not extreme environments
> etc. Old logic was synthetics could go longer between changes without
> breakdown etc, but wisdom of late is they carry particulates around
> just as easily as regular oil so should be changed just as[/color]
snip

Not arguing against your logic for your situation and agree about the
particulates, although they would be very small as the filter should take
most of them from the oil (assuming you are using a quality filter and not a
cheap one). Synthetic oils' molecules are all the same size so it alledgedly
lubricates better than dino, since it's molecules are irregular in size.
Syn. isn't supposed to break down as quickly as dino (this is the longer
change interval you mentioned). Syn. also dissipates heat better than dino
which helps keep the engine at a cooler temp (very good benefit in
air-cooled engines like motorcycles which don't have any means to move air
across cooling fins when not moving) and resists oil coking. Syn. is more
resistant to water or moisture absorbtion so it helps resist sludge better
than dino.
If you consider the extra cost and factor in the longer change interval then
dino is still slightly cheaper. The other benefits of syn. are worth the
slightly higher cost for me. YMMV
davidj92


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Old 02-01-2006, 05:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Synthetic oil in my new Tundra?

IMHO syn oil is hard to justify unless your vehicle operates in extreme
conditions. Used to live in Mpls - winter there approaches extreme. I
really doubt if most people would get much benefit from going with syn.
A couple of my old hondas are still running and not burning oil and
they both have over 250K on them - one over 300K. Have 193K on my
current honda - won't be the engine that goes - use dino and change at
4 to 5K intervals.

Do the math on how much you will spend on syn vs dino for 100K. change
oil every 4K = 25 x 5 quarts ( I assume) or 125 X 2 = 250. not a big
financial decision I guess.

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